Gone with the old, here comes with the new...

Yea, like that time when my friend got a plasma flat screen tv while I still had the enormous boxy tv. I couldn't afford the plasma tv. It was damaging to my self worth as a child. YOU HAVE NO IDEA!!

SeriousLy folks, you know it's dumb and does not solve anything to halt new technologies for the deaf. And honestly, it has NOTHING to do with autism attitude. New technologies are ALWAYS better than the old (in terms of efficiency, cost, attributes, or performance), otherwise what's the point of even making it?!?!
Daredevil, on the other hand it DOES kind of seem like the HA companies and CI companies and audis seem to push the idea that the newest cutting edge technology is ALWAYS the best. You almost get the vibe that they are pretending to "tweak" thetechnology so they can advertise it as being better, even thou it might have somethign "new"that only minimally impacts performance.
 
I don't know any one who actually feels like that. They didn't have CI when I was a kid.

I don't feel discouraged or behind because some people have them today.

It's a different time and technologies are constantly changing.

I really think it is silly to begrudge people new technologies just because they weren't available before.

I think she is talking about measuring a child's self worth based on technology by the doctors and audis. That is never a good thing at all. It has happened to me when the adults were always telling me that better HAs would make my life better. No, I do not bedrudge new technology but I begrudge those who constantly measure and compare children's well being based on hearing technology. In my book, that's a big no no.
 
I have never had anyone tell me that this technology would be better because its new etc...i've only had my current audi tell me what is good and what isn't for MY hearing loss and It's my ultimate choice what I want..also I have never had anyone else for that matter tell me what to do in regards to my Deafness
 
I have never had anyone tell me that this technology would be better because its new etc...i've only had my current audi tell me what is good and what isn't for MY hearing loss and It's my ultimate choice what I want..also I have never had anyone else for that matter tell me what to do in regards to my Deafness

In my field, I see that constantly with the audis about our students. It takes a lot of effort for me to refrain from making personal comments. I just have to clench my hands and smile at them. I dont like it at all.
 
I think she is talking about measuring a child's self worth based on technology by the doctors and audis. That is never a good thing at all. It has happened to me when the adults were always telling me that better HAs would make my life better. No, I do not bedrudge new technology but I begrudge those who constantly measure and compare children's well being based on hearing technology. In my book, that's a big no no.

Maybe I didn't have the same experience. I don't remember anyone ever implying to me that a better hearing aid would improve my life.

Any emotional problems I have come more from being told to excel no matter what, and no excuses.

It has given me a tough attitude.
 
Maybe I didn't have the same experience. I don't remember anyone ever implying to me that a better hearing aid would improve my life.

Any emotional problems I have come more from being told to excel no matter what, and no excuses.

It has given me a tough attitude.

It must have been a marketing thing...try to sell the newest gadget..who knows but to say that to a child? Wrong thing to do.

That was why I kinda knew where A was coming from when she made that comment about comparision. Why she brought it up in this thread, I dont know and was it revelant? Maybe not.
 
Never mind, it's one those thread that no one gets it but me.
 
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Was it said to you or did you feel like it was just a pressure? i wonder how much of this "your value is your hearing device" was an internal pressure rather than what was actually being said.
 
A, I think I see where you are coming from with this. Yes, today and tomorrow those who opt for a CI do get a "better" piece of equipment than we have. I do want Li-Li to benefit from the latest and most improved technology, given that we've opted for an approach to speaking and hearing that relies on technology.

With Li-Li, I do wish she had been implanted earlier and had access to sound sooner. I also wish she had ASL exposure much earlier -- I think it was a lost opportunity for her not to have had access to language of any kind during her first year in the orphanage when no one knew she was deaf.

But I don't begrudge those who get the newer equipment, or have the opportunity to implant earlier. But the model of her processor or the implant itself doesn't affect how I view my child or -- I would hope -- how she might view herself. Because she's got a year-old implant vs. today's shiny new one, I don't then look at her and think, oh baby, you are so last year's model :) . As others have said, I don't think about the computer I had as a child and feel oppressed or less worthy because back in 1984 I didn't have the latest Macbook out today, even though I'm very much aware of how much better the equipment is now.

So, I do subscribe to the idea that -- in many cases, though not all -- newer technology is more improved than older technology. But that doesn't apply to the little person wearing the technology.
 
It must have been a marketing thing...try to sell the newest gadget..who knows but to say that to a child? Wrong thing to do.

That was why I kinda knew where A was coming from when she made that comment about comparision. Why she brought it up in this thread, I dont know and was it revelant? Maybe not.

Never mind, it's one those thread that no one gets it but me.

I understand where you are coming from, but in the different way of experiencing it. I often got told that I could have something to rely on technology that would improves myself and expand myself into something else. it did turns me off based on their comments about it. I can understand they are going after the better and advanced technology but it's very hard to keep up with it like video games the best one after the new ones over and over.
 
Never mind, it's one those thread that no one gets it but me.

I understand where you are coming from and I wont judge you for expressing your feelings about this. You are entitled to your views. Dont worry about the others who are questioning you about why you brought it up. :)
 
I understand where you are coming from and I wont judge you for expressing your feelings about this. You are entitled to your views. Dont worry about the others who are questioning you about why you brought it up. :)

DITTO! I d like to see others experiences in many different paths but reach to the very much same issue/situation anyway.
 
A, I think I see where you are coming from with this. Yes, today and tomorrow those who opt for a CI do get a "better" piece of equipment than we have. I do want Li-Li to benefit from the latest and most improved technology, given that we've opted for an approach to speaking and hearing that relies on technology.

With Li-Li, I do wish she had been implanted earlier and had access to sound sooner. I also wish she had ASL exposure much earlier -- I think it was a lost opportunity for her not to have had access to language of any kind during her first year in the orphanage when no one knew she was deaf.

But I don't begrudge those who get the newer equipment, or have the opportunity to implant earlier. But the model of her processor or the implant itself doesn't affect how I view my child or -- I would hope -- how she might view herself. Because she's got a year-old implant vs. today's shiny new one, I don't then look at her and think, oh baby, you are so last year's model :) . As others have said, I don't think about the computer I had as a child and feel oppressed or less worthy because back in 1984 I didn't have the latest Macbook out today, even though I'm very much aware of how much better the equipment is now.

So, I do subscribe to the idea that -- in many cases, though not all -- newer technology is more improved than older technology. But that doesn't apply to the little person wearing the technology.

Just be sure to remember that she is progressing well because of HER and that she'll catch up no matter what and don't put the blame on "old technology" on her speaking and writing ability because she is smart and can get by no matter how well she can hear or speak. Even if she bi-bi and uses ASL to communicate, she can be successful. Not because of how advanced her technology, or how early she was implanted, etc. Technology should not really define the person.
 
Technology should not really define the person.

Amen to this quote, also, it depends on how much you can make effort in making something to do with your mind or not. It's all in your energy and mind.
 
Just be sure to remember that she is progressing well because of HER and that she'll catch up no matter what and don't put the blame on "old technology" on her speaking and writing ability because she is smart and can get by no matter how well she can hear or speak. Even if she bi-bi and uses ASL to communicate, she can be successful. Not because of how advanced her technology, or how early she was implanted, etc. Technology should not really define the person.

I understand what you are saying, but really, for my daughter, it isn't true. She is successfully accessing and learning spoken language 100% due to her CI. Before her implant she had ZERO ability to access and understand spoken language. If she hadn't received a CI, that would still be true.

Yes, she could have been successful in other ways, but in that one area (which does not define my love for her, or who she is) the technology is 100% the reason fo her success.
 
ARe you sure it is 100%? when this technology come out, that 100% probably be lower, at least for researchers when they decide if this new technology does improve hearing. That kids with new technology started out with more auditory pathway to speech and hearing than the older kids with CI.

Kids should be proud of ASL because it's a skill that doesn't require how advanced their technology to socialize and communicate with people.


The only 100% success will be natural hearing.
 
ARe you sure it is 100%? when this technology come out, that 100% probably be lower, at least for researchers when they decide if this new technology does improve hearing. That kids with new technology started out with more auditory pathway to speech and hearing than the older kids with CI.

Kids should be proud of ASL because it's a skill that doesn't require how advanced their technology to socialize and communicate with people.


The only 100% success will be natural hearing.

Yes, without the CI she had gained 3 words in 5 years. Once she got the implant she gained 3 1/2 years worth of language in 18 months. The only change was her ability to access hearing through her device.
 
Amen to this quote, also, it depends on how much you can make effort in making something to do with your mind or not. It's all in your energy and mind.

I totally love that quote too!! Technology shouldn't define the person. :cheers:
 
I can understand where A is coming from.

When I was young, adults are always comparing kids with older technology to kids with newer technology. Kids themselves don't usually care who got latest or old technology but they do get hurt from adult comments. Like I remember one of my Deaf friend with CI (Early CI) and one of my Deaf friend with hearing aids. Adults was comparing both of them with how well they can speak, how well they can understand, how well they can write and read English, how well they can learn in classroom. The one with CI has lots of praise and other one with hearing aids has lots of negative comments, he was so hurt, he cried. It not his fault he doesn't have the latest technology but those adult seems to act like it is his fault. Those adults were teachers of Deaf in mainstream school.
 
I can understand where A is coming from.

When I was young, adults are always comparing kids with older technology to kids with newer technology. Kids themselves don't usually care who got latest or old technology but they do get hurt from adult comments. Like I remember one of my Deaf friend with CI (Early CI) and one of my Deaf friend with hearing aids. Adults was comparing both of them with how well they can speak, how well they can understand, how well they can write and read English, how well they can learn in classroom. The one with CI has lots of praise and other one with hearing aids has lots of negative comments, he was so hurt, he cried. It not his fault he doesn't have the latest technology but those adult seems to act like it is his fault. Those adults were teachers of Deaf in mainstream school.

I know exactly what you mean. It really can harm a child's perception of oneself. These adults who fail to understand that shouldnt be working with these children at all.
 
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