Going into IT

Foxrac said:
Oh, I got it now.

Yup, that why I asked same questions to different people, including you to who which is properly informed informed, more detail and better fact/opinion.

I'm still undecided about college major that is better fit for me, CIS, computer science or graphic design so I picked CIS for now, however graphic design was my first major that I picked for Gally in 2006 but turned into many disputes with my parent and issue with state exam, both of them already resolved.
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I understand that you're very interested in gaming business but exactly what? what do you want to do?
 
Jiro said:
why would I hire you? I'm not a gaming company but the point is... companies are doing what I did - hiring a foreign programmer for cheaper price... which is why you hear many companies outsourcing jobs.


you silly bird. don't take it too literally. Even if you have a degree in IT, they will still accept you as long as you have a proficient programming skill.

Here are a few examples of jobs at EA

PLATFORM ENGINEER


GAMEPLAY PROGRAMMER
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LOL, I was just messing with my attitude but, yes, I found out about what DDU was saying about many companies outsourcing jobs, that make me so sad.

Thanks for right information about job role in gaming, also I'm kinda embarrassed that I'm doing wrong in research about requirement to work in gaming job.
 
Jiro said:
I understand that you're very interested in gaming business but exactly what? what do you want to do?
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My first future job is I want to design the characters, objects, building, street, cars, etc in gaming.
 
Foxrac said:
My first future job is I want to design the characters, objects, building, street, cars, etc in gaming.
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oh??? so why would you need CS or programming for that? That's Graphic Designer or related. Art stuff, yes?
 
Jiro said:
oh??? so why would you need CS or programming for that? That's Graphic Designer or related. Art stuff, yes?
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because I thought gaming companies require computer science to develop the games, including characters, cars, street, objects, etc, also one of my best friend said so in years ago but I turned into wrong after found out about your post. :Oops:

Yes, you are absolutely right about graphic design is required for design the games.
 
Foxrac said:
because I thought gaming companies require computer science to develop the games, including characters, cars, street, objects, etc, also one of my best friend said so in years ago but I turned into wrong after found out about your post. :Oops:

Yes, you are absolutely right about graphic design is required for design the games.
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did you check out some gaming companies' career site? Find the job title that fits your interest and see what it requires. it is possible that graphic designing may require programming knowledge. check it out first.
 
Jiro said:
did you check out some gaming companies' career site? Find the job title that fits your interest and see what it requires. it is possible that graphic designing may require programming knowledge. check it out first.
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Ok, I will check their website and yes, that what I was thought too.
 
Also, I heard about some college offers degree in gaming that include graphic design and programming in combined like RIT and Full Sail University are two of them.
 
Foxrac said:
Also, I heard about some college offers degree in gaming that include graphic design and programming in combined like RIT and Full Sail University are two of them.
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yup. expensive though.
 
Jiro said:
because they're damn good.... hence highly competitive job... which is why I said - you better make sure you are damn good too. and if you are - you'll get well-paid.

but just know that in gaming fields - the job availability is pretty small and the career is short-lived. Stay flexible and adaptive and you'll be fine.

If you're a very good gaming programmer - you will most likely have to move several times including Canada.

My friend works for EA in Toronto. But that information was a year ago. I doubt he's working for EA now.
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It's true. I knew few of IT complained to find a job about gaming after they got laid off.
 
Foxrac said:
It seems like Dept of VR in our state is bullshit and bogus then?
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Not really, They just want to help you to find a job but they won't promise for keep job a longer. They did very hard job to a match job for anyone. Again, jobs as itself never will be same after year to year.
 
Software development (programming) can be difficult to get into. If you're serious about it, you should ideally be qualified to degree level.

I have a friend who used to work for Blizzard Entertainment and he said "to be hired by the big boys as a programmer, you need to be top notch." If you graduate University with a BSc with no prior experience, you're unlikely to be top notch. Programming is something you have to do very often in order to be good at it.

Programming jobs are limited. Even in some cities (especially the smaller ones) there may only be a handful of employers who actually have a need for programmers. As already pointed out, the use of outsourcing and COTS software, means that many businesses can eliminate the need for this role entirely. So yeah, if you want to be a software developer, you may need to consider relocating. (depending on where you live)

On the other hand, there's plenty of jobs for IT technical support staff. Just about every company or organisation with more than 100 employees has an IT department. That's where the jobs are, but it's not always where the money is. The good thing is that you don't need to have a degree to enter this specific field. There's many entry level jobs available and promotion prospects are often good.
 
ExR said:
Software development (programming) can be difficult to get into. If you're serious about it, you should ideally be qualified to degree level.

I have a friend who used to work for Blizzard Entertainment and he said "to be hired by the big boys as a programmer, you need to be top notch." If you graduate University with a BSc with no prior experience, you're unlikely to be top notch. Programming is something you have to do very often in order to be good at it.

Programming jobs are limited. Even in some cities (especially the smaller ones) there may only be a handful of employers who actually have a need for programmers. As already pointed out, the use of outsourcing and COTS software, means that many businesses can eliminate the need for this role entirely. So yeah, if you want to be a software developer, you may need to consider relocating. (depending on where you live)
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yup. most of these game programmers are born talented. Most of them started programming in high school or before that.

ExR said:
On the other hand, there's plenty of jobs for IT technical support staff. Just about every company or organisation with more than 100 employees has an IT department. That's where the jobs are, but it's not always where the money is. The good thing is that you don't need to have a degree to enter this specific field. There's many entry level jobs available and promotion prospects are often good.
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exactly. be flexible and be able to do lot of things in case you can't find the job you want. As long as you're knowledgeable in many things, you're still earning money. Meanwhile - you can continue to search for job you want.
 
high school and IT

It is true that these days high school kids are already experienced in programing, web site development, graphics, and hacking. I remember reading about some guy who broke into the 1st iphone before he even started college !!! That is what anyone looking to ge into IT is up against. I have had some friends kids say they want to get into IT and I ask them if they can program and stuff like that already. Too often they are computer users and think that is enough.
You can always start out with IT and keep an eye on jobs and the future. Just don't believe what a counselor at VR is telling you. They seem to be out of touch with the real world
 
DDU said:
It is true that these days high school kids are already experienced in programing, web site development, graphics, and hacking. I remember reading about some guy who broke into the 1st iphone before he even started college !!!
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that's why they're get to have toys in their offices and ride scooter down the hallway

DDU said:
Too often they are computer users and think that is enough.
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and that's why they're in jobs that deal with routine "why isn't my Internet working?" problems
 
white hat

Can always get a job as a white hat hacker. I always want to talk with black hat hackers just so I can learn some neat tricks. But always worry they will trick me and infect my puter
 
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