Going into IT

Nevermind, it was nonsense joke.
 
games programer

I would think writing programs for games would be the best thing you could do. That is supposed to be the hot job. Look at how much code is necessary for any game these days.
On a different note. I would have thought C++ would have been dead by now. Back when I did that 12 years ago it was on the way out.
 
DDU said:
I would think writing programs for games would be the best thing you could do. That is supposed to be the hot job. Look at how much code is necessary for any game these days.
On a different note. I would have thought C++ would have been dead by now. Back when I did that 12 years ago it was on the way out.
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Yup, it means I have change my major to computer science if I want develop the games so I'm still thinking about computer science for over years.
 
ChocolateMILK said:
If there is anybody out there who is in the IT business, whether its from security, networking, programming, or even web page building, can you give me some advice?

The most widely given advice I have received thus far is to 'network with other people'.

Right now, I am just starting out. I am taking Intro to Java, Intro to XHTML/HTML, and finally system analyst and design.

So do you have any advice? Any would be appreciated!

Thanks
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I am a Systems Admin/Engineer for the 3rd largest bank in Canada. The best thing for you to do is to get a BS in Information Technology-not Computer Science, Computer Science degrees are a thing of the past now.

The next best thing is to network with other people. Java is the best one to get into, systems analyst and design are also good but do not specialize if you can avoid it until you get out in the work force. If you specialize it is harder to find the job and if you do get the job you may not like it.

When you start out in IT expect to not stay at the same job more than two years because you will move up frequently if you are successfull :)
 
cdaigle430 said:
I am a Systems Admin/Engineer for the 3rd largest bank in Canada. The best thing for you to do is to get a BS in Information Technology-not Computer Science, Computer Science degrees are a thing of the past now.

The next best thing is to network with other people. Java is the best one to get into, systems analyst and design are also good but do not specialize if you can avoid it until you get out in the work force. If you specialize it is harder to find the job and if you do get the job you may not like it.

When you start out in IT expect to not stay at the same job more than two years because you will move up frequently if you are successfull :)
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Well, computer science is needed for game programmer, computer engineering, software developers, application programmer, etc.
 
Foxrac said:
Yup, it means I have change my major to computer science if I want develop the games so I'm still thinking about computer science for over years.
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Software Engineering is better. Beside - you can with IT degree too.

RIT - Programs of Study
Have an undergraduate degree in a relevant field, such as information technology, computer science, software engineering, or computer graphics. Students with undergraduate degrees in related disciplines such as computer animation or human computer interaction may be considered.
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cdaigle430 said:
The best thing for you to do is to get a BS in Information Technology-not Computer Science, Computer Science degrees are a thing of the past now.
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Foxrac said:
Well, computer science is needed for game programmer, computer engineering, software developers, application programmer, etc.
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cdaigle is right. I can easily hire a highly-qualified foreign programmer over you at the fraction of cost and I have.

Jobs in games are fiercely competitive. It's unstable and rapid. If you cannot handle high-pressured stress and long hours, pick something else.
 
Jiro said:
cdaigle is right. I can easily hire a highly-qualified foreign programmer over you at the fraction of cost and I have.
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Why?

What is wrong with me?

In year ago, my VR ordered me to research on programming jobs and I found most of game programmers require BS in computer science so I picked computer science at first place but in last min, you suggested IT so I changed my major to IT in last Dec.
 
Jiro said:
cdaigle is right. I can easily hire a highly-qualified foreign programmer over you at the fraction of cost and I have.

Jobs in games are fiercely competitive. It's unstable and rapid. If you cannot handle high-pressured stress and long hours, pick something else.
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In bold, I already know that before you tell me and of course but they get excellent paid.
 
Foxrac said:
Why?

What is wrong with me?
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why? nothing. it's purely business. I am paying for it, not you. We all like to pay cheap for highly-qualified people. sad but it's business.

Foxrac said:
In year ago, my VR ordered me to research on programming jobs and I found most of game programmers require BS in computer science so I picked computer science at first place but in last min, you suggested IT so I changed my major to IT in last Dec.
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show me example?

btw - IT can do CS too.
 
Foxrac said:
In bold, I already know that before you tell me and of course but they get excellent paid.
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because they're damn good.... hence highly competitive job... which is why I said - you better make sure you are damn good too. and if you are - you'll get well-paid.

but just know that in gaming fields - the job availability is pretty small and the career is short-lived. Stay flexible and adaptive and you'll be fine.

If you're a very good gaming programmer - you will most likely have to move several times including Canada.

My friend works for EA in Toronto. But that information was a year ago. I doubt he's working for EA now.
 
Jiro said:
because they're damn good.... hence highly competitive job... which is why I said - you better make sure you are damn good too. and if you are - you'll get well-paid.

but just know that in gaming fields - the job availability is pretty small and the career is short-lived. Stay flexible and adaptive and you'll be fine.

If you're a very good gaming programmer - you will most likely have to move several times including Canada.

My friend works for EA in Toronto. But that information was a year ago. I doubt he's working for EA now.
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Oh really, that's interesting.

In bold, your post surprised me because I think that game programmers are hot job market, that what my VR told me about it in year ago. :aw:
 
Foxrac said:
Oh really, that's interesting.

In bold, your post surprised me because I think that game programmers are hot job market, that what my VR told me about it in year ago. :aw:
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what is your VR's expertise? and what does he do for living?
 
Jiro said:
what is your VR's expertise? and what does he do for living?
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My VR counselor is female.

She researched a lot about job market and showed to me on her computer about game programmers are hot job market, along with some of IT/computer jobs are hot job market too.
 
Foxrac said:
My VR counselor is female.

She researched a lot about job market and showed to me on her computer about game programmers are hot job market, along with some of IT/computer jobs are hot job market too.
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and what is my expertise and what do I do for living?
 
Jiro said:
and what is my expertise and what do I do for living?
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Your expertise is IT, computer science, etc so I guess. *shrugs*

It seems like Dept of VR in our state is bullshit and bogus then?
 
Foxrac said:
Your expertise is IT, computer science, etc so I guess. *shrugs*
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I majored in IT yes.

Foxrac said:
It seems like Dept of VR in our state is bullshit and bogus then?
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yes and no. No it's not bogus but bullshit yes. They do not know exactly what the field is like and what it entails.

I'm not discouraging you from what you want to do. I'm just explaining you the reality of it. As long as you're properly informed about it and you still want to do it, we support you :)
 
Foxrac said:
I don't care if you don't want hire me, that's your choice.
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why would I hire you? I'm not a gaming company but the point is... companies are doing what I did - hiring a foreign programmer for cheaper price... which is why you hear many companies outsourcing jobs.

Foxrac said:
I found one about game programmer require degree in computer science.
Game Programmer Job in San Francisco 94105, California US
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you silly bird. don't take it too literally. Even if you have a degree in IT, they will still accept you as long as you have a proficient programming skill.

Here are a few examples of jobs at EA

PLATFORM ENGINEER
You dream Java code at night and are passionate about delivering scalable, high-performance solutions. You thrive in fast-paced environments and would rather be churning out code than attending superfluous meetings. As a kick-ass engineer, you will help our team:

• Build the platform of shared services for all EA2D games
• Write libraries to interact with internal and external services
• Drive integration of game and commerce telemetry across all of EA2D’s titles
• Deliver a flexible, end-to-end solution for payments
• Identify tools and techniques to help us make games better

Required:

• Strong understanding of CS fundamentals
• 3+ years Java experience
• Proficient in Python, Ruby, or similar
• Experience building and scaling highly available distributed systems
• Experience building and maintaining web services or SOAs
• Experience with RDBMS such as MySQL or PostgreSQL
• Experience integrating with APIs of external services
• Affinity for Unix/Linux systems
• Strong get-things-done mentality

Pluses:

• Experience with event-driven architectures
• Experience tuning real-time systems for performance and reliability
• Experience with highly dynamic environments, especially on Amazon Web Services (EC2, S3, etc)
• Experience with NoSQL databases
• Love for games (board, pen-and-paper, video- we don’t discriminate)
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GAMEPLAY PROGRAMMER
Electronic Arts has an opening for a Gameplay Programmer in Austin, TX. Master’s degree in Computer Science, Computer Engineering, Interactive Technology, or closely related discipline. In the alternative, we will accept a Bachelor’s degree in Computer Science, Computer Engineering, Interactive Technology, or closely related, plus five years experience in the job offered or related programmer position. Must have advanced software engineering and programming skills specific to digital game development for writing interactive real time game systems. Must have knowledge and ability to enhance and refine programming pipeline.
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Jiro said:
I majored in IT yes.


yes and no. No it's not bogus but bullshit yes. They do not know exactly what the field is like and what it entails.

I'm not discouraging you from what you want to do. I'm just explaining you the reality of it. As long as you're properly informed about it and you still want to do it, we support you :)
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Oh, I got it now.

Yup, that why I asked same questions to different people, including you to who which is properly informed, more detail and better fact/opinion.

I'm still undecided about college major that is better fit for me, CIS, computer science or graphic design so I picked CIS for now, however graphic design was my first major that I picked for Gally in 2006 but turned into many disputes with my parent and issue with state exam, both of them already resolved.
 
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