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Steinhauer said:
Yes, we do deserve several explanations. But first, I would like to know why Vera Baker lawyered up and moved to a different country after a limousine driver verified that Obama had an affair with her. I would like an explanation as to why the media did not make this a three ring circus event like they did to Herman Cain. I would also like an explanation as to why no one has heard a peep out of Cain's accusers when he dropped out of the race. I would also like to know why text messages were purported to be evidence of an affair, only after having released them, there was nothing at all to indicate that Herman Cain was having an affair.

I would like to know why it is perfectly "ok" to do this to Herman Cain, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich but not "ok" to do this with Obama's dirty laundry.
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I would like to know why it is NOT ok for us especially you to discuss about Gingrich's dirty laundry when this thread is about Gingrich.
 
rolling7 said:
Jiro does not owe me an answer but ge does owe one to AD. IMO it is against the rules to post a false statement as Jiro has when he posted in #1 that the company "IS" money laundering and he is unable to prove his statement. If Jiro were to post here the proof that the company "IS" (or even, in the past HAS) money laundered then I would come over to his side. Don't we all on AD deserve an explanation?
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rolling7 said:
Yes, you are right. My question for you and others is why is not everyone raising a stink about the post in #1. The post is not presented as an allegation but as a fact.
Jiro had a chance (#3) to clarify this but choice not to.
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are you trolling me now?

again - the answer is in OP. I'm sorry if it did not satisfy you.
 
Trolling you? No
Looking for the truth? Yes.

Once again, in the above post, you have made a false statement. I went to the three links you provided to me and everyone else and not once did "money laundering" appear. So you owe us all an explanation for these falsehood posted as facts.
 
rolling7 said:
Trolling you? No
Looking for the truth? Yes.

Once again, in the above post, you have made a false statement. I went to the three links you provided to me and everyone else and not once did "money laundering" appear. So you owe us all an explanation for these falsehood posted as facts.
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so sue me.
 
Steinhauer said:
And that was why she lawyered up and moved out of the country .... Because nothing happened.

Yeah, yeah .....that's the ticket.
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interesting. she lawyered up and moved out of country. because of that - you believe it did happen.

several women came out to accuse Cain of sexual harassment. and you lol'ed at them and dismissed it as political ploy to defame him.

no wonder your sense of ethic and moral value is so skewered that you'd vote for any Republican and it's extremely puzzling to why people like you continue to support and vote for Republican criminals when they are in fact stealing money from you. Why is it that they're still richer and you're still poorer when they promised strong booming economy? oh wait - it's because you still believe their same ole' rhetoric hyperboles that it's Democrats' fault for making America poor because of their socialists/communists/fascists/etc idealisms.

so can you let us discuss about Gingrich's dirty laundry without hijacking this thread? is that possible?
 
Steinhauer said:
Suuuuuuure .... (Wink wink) let's stick to that story and not the facts that the National Restaurant paid a settlement and not Cain.

Kind of makes you wonder how Vera Baker was able to afford that residence on a Caribbean island doesn't it?
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Right, the National Restaurant association tosses settlement money around freely and without any reason. And good job turning this anti-Gingrich topic into another Obama bashing party.

Mods, Please close this section down for good. There really is no need to keep it open for discussions of this nature.
 
Jiro said:
so sue me.
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No, I won't.
I'll leave it to Alex to decide if he wants to allow members to be allow to post deliberate falsehood on AD. I say deliberate because you have offered no defense of your posts that would prove them to be true.
 
rolling7 said:
No, I won't.
I'll leave it to Alex to decide if he wants to allow members to be allow to post deliberate falsehood on AD. I say deliberate because you have offered no defense of your posts that would prove them to be true.
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That won't do ya any good cuz they are buds
 
Oh, I think I get it now. It's perfectly ok to air out anyone BUT Obama's dirty laundry ...... (If that isn't transparent enough).
 
Steinhauer said:
Oh, I think I get it now. It's perfectly ok to air out anyone BUT Obama's dirty laundry ...... (If that isn't transparent enough).
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I have repeatedly stated that you are free to create such thread about Obama. Why aren't you doing it yet?
 
Tousi said:
That won't do ya any good cuz they are buds
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Excuse me? I'm wondering what's going on with you. Cabin fever beginning to get to you? Yea damn winter.
 
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rolling7 said:
No, I won't.
I'll leave it to Alex to decide if he wants to allow members to be allow to post deliberate falsehood on AD. I say deliberate because you have offered no defense of your posts that would prove them to be true.
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Feel free to report to mods.
 
Just another valid question. How many people who are currently airing out republican candidates "dirty laundry" also support Obama's decision to order the DOJ to stop enforcing DOMA?

It is hypocrisy in perpetual motion.
 
Steinhauer said:
Just another valid question. How many people who are currently airing out republican candidates "dirty laundry" also support Obama's decision to order the DOJ to stop enforcing DOMA?

It is hypocrisy in perpetual motion.
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Once again, feel free to create a thread about Obama. Is it not hard for you to do that?
 
saywhatkid said:
That's why Cain paid them all off, because nothing happened.

Yeah, yeah .....that's the ticket.
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I liked Cain at first, but I was disappointed in how he handled the accusations, and I was no longer supporting him before he dropped out of the race. But this is false.

Cain didn't pay. The Restaurant association paid out of its own pocket after Cain had already left. The amount paid is in the same ball park that companies often pay just to avoid the hassle of court, and is not considered an admission of guilt.

There are plenty of reasons not to believe the first two women were telling the truth- like one of them has a history of accusing her coworkers and bosses of sexual harassment, the other lied about her circumstances, and the fact that in all of Caine's life and careers, the only allegations ever made about him were from two women in the very, very short time period he lived and worked in Chicago.

Gingrich is an adulterer with a messy history.
His first wife his his geography teacher in high school and she seduced him and bedded him when he was still a minor. That was unethical of the wife.
Later he cheated on that wife, divorced his first wife and married his mistress.
Then he cheated on his former mistress, now wife, divorced her, and married his new mistress.

I won't be defending him against the truth or voting for him. But I don't believe his exwife's steamiest allegations, either. Her story does keep changing. She is bitter. You should always take an ex's stories with a grain of salt.
Also, I have NO sympathy for mistresses who break up marriages, marry the guy they had an affair with, and then get upset when the guy they committed adultery with later cheats on them.

If you are sleeping with another woman's husband, which his ex-wife did, and then marry the cheater, well, you married a cheater and you knew it, because you are also a cheater. What do you expect? A man who committed adultery *with* you is just as likely to commit adultery later with some other cheater.

I also do not believe Obama cheated on his wife with Vera. But I know that if the same allegation had been made against any Republican the media would have been all over it. After all, look at how the media handled John Edwards adultery (which they knew about long before the National Enquirer broke the news), how they handled Clinton's lies to Congress under oath, lies to the American people about never having an affair with that woman, and it was a vast right wing conspiracy when he KNEW it was the truth, how they ignored the long string of women accusing Clinton of affairs, harassment, and in one case rape, compared to McCain leaving his first wife decades ago, or the Cain allegations when they were still anonymous and ten years old anyway. They focused on anonymous ten year old allegations about a republican and completely ignored *current* affairs in the case of Edwards and Clinton, and current allegations with Obama.
 
So it's okay to add Cain to this thread, but not any Democrats? Why?
 
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