Getting Older Another Scare

Bottesini said:
Not true. Isolation caused by deafness whether born or acquired were both seen as contributing.
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I didn't find cites that says born deafness contributes to dementia. I found claims that says isolation, due to deafness can contribute to dementia, in other words, it's not the deafness it self, but problems with coping with it. Feel free to correct me.

In other words, it's bad if you are hearing, and start to loose hearing at an age of 50 to 70.

That's why I say it's safer to be deaf from early on than hearing.

Mind you, I am taking an ethnocentric deaf perspective here. One can perhaps find flaws, but it's comfy..
 
flip said:
I didn't find cites that says born deafness contributes to dementia. I found claims that says isolation, due to deafness can contribute to dementia, in other words, it's not the deafness it self, but problems with coping with it. Feel free to correct me.

In other words, it's bad if you are hearing, and start to loose hearing at an age of 50 to 70.

That's why I say it's safer to be deaf from early on than hearing.

Mind you, I am taking an ethnocentric deaf perspective here. One can perhaps find flaws, but it's comfy..
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I read it the same as you did..

Now who is to say that they communicated with these with "dementia" well? If you can't hear the full question, chances are that you may give an incorrect answer. oohhh!! dementia!!! :roll:
 
posts from hell said:
I read it the same as you did..

Now who is to say that they communicated with these with "dementia" well? If you can't hear the full question, chances are that you may give an incorrect answer. oohhh!! dementia!!! :roll:
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And one have to ask who got dementia with a grave misunderstanding like this, the person who asked or the one that replied?

Spoke to a deaf old man recently. He moved to a city with deaf eldercare facilities nearby, because he had seen deaf people die quickly when isolated in rual hearing eldercare. Of course.

Some of the "new" findings on deafness by hearing people never stop to amuse me.
 
flip said:
And one have to ask who got dementia with a grave misunderstanding like this, the person who asked or the one that replied?

Spoke to a deaf old man recently. He moved to a city with deaf eldercare facilities nearby, because he had seen deaf people die quickly when isolated in rual hearing eldercare. Of course.

Some of the "new" findings on deafness by hearing people never stop to amuse me.
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Deaf person with Alzheimer died within few weeks due to extreme isolation and just plainly giving up in a hearing environment. That is the one of the main reasons Chestnut Lane started...
Chestnut Lane Assisted Living Community
 
That is interesting people forced to run naked in the peoples Repub of Bolders on Halloween due to lack of funds to get special costumes!
Hope it doesn't rain/snow that day!
Back to the thread-what is actual death rate of Hearing Impaired/deaf/Deaf/BlindDeaf/Blinddeaf and Hearing persons from Alzheimers/dementia- say USA or Australia, Canada?

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posts from hell said:
Deaf person with Alzheimer died within few weeks due to extreme isolation and just plainly giving up in a hearing environment. That is the one of the main reasons Chestnut Lane started...
Chestnut Lane Assisted Living Community
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Thanks for the virtual tour that was included. I wonder how many assisted living communities for the deaf exist? I cannot seem to find any online. My parents are hearing and live in an assisted living community which costs five grand a month, and I am forever whipping the nurses staff into taking better care of them. My dad now has Alzheimers so I am concerned about his care by the staff. Next weekend I will read the riot act to the entire staff, sigh.
 
Has it been determined if " being classified as cultural Deaf" is a factor in stopping "dementia/Alzheimer against the "deaf" with Cochlear Implants?

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Yes, drphil. The consensus is that cultural Hearing deaf people are in deep shit.
 
lol@fllp :lol:

Here's part of the problem:

* Dementias are difficult to diagnose. Researchers at Columbia-Presbyterian Hospital (1996) found
on post-mortem investigation, a 45% misdiagnosis rate in patients previously diagnosed with AD
(Alzheimer’s disease).
* The symptoms of Alzheimer’s disease and untreated hearing loss are nearly identical.
* Commonly used screening examinations are administered verbally and assume normal hearing
acuity and normal central auditory processing ability.
* Hearing loss is concentrated in the older population – 36% of the population between 65 and 84
years of age, and 66% or more of those age 85 years and above.
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The fact sheet is here: http://www.mi-shhh.org/pdfs/seniors.pdf

Some of the old folks diagnosed with dementia just can't hear. And lots of older people don't like the admit that they are hoh. A family member recently told me, "I can hear. I just can't understand what women are saying." Yea, right, you can hear. :P
 
drphil said:
Has it been determined if " being classified as cultural Deaf" is a factor in stopping "dementia/Alzheimer against the "deaf" with Cochlear Implants?

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It hasn't even been determined that deafness is a link to dementia.:roll: Notice the wording, "may have".

However, the link would certainly be stronger, if it exists, in those for whom deafness has occurred as a part of the aging process or genetic connection that does not appear until one is older than for those who were born deaf or became deaf earlier in childhood. Since there is a definate connection between being culturally deaf or not culturally deaf between these two groups, there would definately be a social connection. However, that is not a biological connection. This article is referring to a biological connection, not a social phenomenon.
 
If there is some correlation/connection only in a biological sphere then ongoing hearing loss as such would appear not to be much "predicative value" re dementia/alzheimers.

Social interactions can be altered somewhat to decrease in the incidence of dementia/alzheimers. Now that may be some way to "slow down" the "increasing reported incidences of this problem.

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drphil said:
If there is some correlation/connection only in a biological sphere then ongoing hearing loss as such would appear not to be much "predicative value" re dementia/alzheimers.

Social interactions can be altered somewhat to decrease in the incidence of dementia/alzheimers. Now that may be some way to "slow down" the "increasing reported incidences of this problem.

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The correlation is very weak. There has been no evidence of cause and effect. It is not the alteration of social interactions, but the active use of the individual's brain that can slow symptoms, but not the onset. Especially since the dementia is generally well developed prior to even being diagnosed.
Incidence cannot be slowed down by the slowing down of progressive symptoms.
 
This is an interesting discussion that appears to be testing various theories re dementia/alzhiemers.What are the real facts?

What is the ACTUAL death rate of persons who had alzhiemers to say heart troubles?

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Final Causes of Death and Prognosis
# On average, people with Alzheimer's disease die within eight to 10 years of diagnosis. However, there have been recorded cases of people living as long as 20 years with the disease. Also, current research and new breakthroughs in treatment are extending the years a victim has in the mild stage dramatically.

Patients do not actually die of Alzheimer's disease, but rather from undiagnosed minor diseases such pneumonia, complications from a fall, or urinary tract infections. Such diseases often go unnoticed, as the patient cannot communicate her needs to caregivers, and are not diagnosed until they are in too severe of a state, such as sepsis due to an infection from a broken bone that did not properly heal, or organ failure due to an unidentified UTI that is too advanced to treat with antibiotics.

Read more: How Do Alzheimer's Patients Die? | eHow.com How Do Alzheimer's Patients Die? | eHow.com

I knew the answer but I knew someone would ask for a source anyway so there it is
 
In the above discussion-Ehow re Dementia/Alzheimer no mention of Hearing Loss/deafness/Deafness.
An answer to the opening query.

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