get life, killing unborn babies

I doubt that girl would have been able to abort anyway. They really reduced access to abortion in Texas, which doesn't make fewer women have abortion or help families. It just makes women go to extreme and possibly dangerous lengths to abort, and makes life very difficult for children born into situations where the parents did not want the kid/did not want a kid born into their situation.

What does reduce teenage pregnancy and abortion, and abortion in general is good sex education and access to birth control. Limiting women's options does nothing for abortion rates.
 
Eater of Worlds said:
I doubt that girl would have been able to abort anyway. They really reduced access to abortion in Texas, which doesn't make fewer women have abortion or help families. It just makes women go to extreme and possibly dangerous lengths to abort, and makes life very difficult for children born into situations where the parents did not want the kid/did not want a kid born into their situation.

What does reduce teenage pregnancy and abortion, and abortion in general is good sex education and access to birth control. Limiting women's options does nothing for abortion rates.
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wise words so true
 
caz said:
you don't come over as right wing hoichi...womans right to choose
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Im certainly not right wing
But i dont support choosing to murder babies either,
Its monstrous,
Really
(Shudder)
It really is.
Carthage was famous in the ancient world foe.sacrificing its own babies even the romans where tsken aback at the slaughter,
Murdering babies on an alter to baal in carthage or murdering babies in some.back room sbortiin.clinic in th alter of selfishness, is murdering babies period.
if its not murder then.the guy got life for what then?
Stepping on his girlriends belly?
Or is it just.murder by some weird magic skight of hand in that as long as she chooses.to do t then its not murder, but it is murder if she diesnt?
Is that how murder is defined?
be honest
Murder is murder, terminating a human life is killing no msyyer what fsncy words are used to.describe that terminatiin,
Doing it for selfish reasons makes.it murder.
Anyway
Just keeping it real
Murdering babies is monstrous!
 
it not murder it terminating a pregnancy...obviously if done against womans will then I would consider it one worse crimes...even islam say up to 16 weeks womans got rights over her body.
would you consider a bunch of cells on petri dish as viable human I don't...but I do see young pregnant 11yr old as human with life in front of her and what ever needs to be done has to be done or rape victim I even seen serverly mentally handicapped women pregnant and unaware..also met man result of double incests he should not existed what awful mess he was..all this more common than people think..
Saying this I read of woman aborting baby bc baby was going to be deaf that I thought just awful
EOW got it spot on
 
sorry dont mean upset you jez,people not going agree on everything..mostly I love hoichi but I will fight to the end for womans right to choose
 
caz said:
it not murder it terminating a pregnancy...obviously if done against womans will then I would consider it one worse crimes...even islam say up to 16 weeks womans got rights over her body.
would you consider a bunch of cells on petri dish as viable human I don't...but I do see young pregnant 11yr old as human with life in front of her and what ever needs to be done has to be done or rape victim I even seen serverly mentally handicapped women pregnant and unaware..also met man result of double incests he should not existed what awful mess he was..all this more common than people think..
Saying this I read of woman aborting baby bc baby was going to be deaf that I thought just awful
EOW got it spot on
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If its not murder then this guy got life for what?
this is an injustice then.
 
caz said:
sorry dont mean upset you jez,people not going agree on everything..mostly I love hoichi but I will fight to the end for womans right to choose
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You did not upset me sweetie, everyone is entitled to their beliefs... while ours may differ that is the way of the would and it keeps things interesting. :D
I have a mixed view that strongly supports Hoichi on this... just the way of the cookie :)
 
men write laws years ago.....I think I may have said this before but when I was young girl in A&E the nursing sister took me by hand showed me young 15yr old dead next to her the baby as it was by that time a baby not fetus she was nearly 40weeks and next to baby was baby hand in another dish...the mother of dead girl was distraught..
By this time the 1967 abortion act came in and awful sights like this dimished..I prey in my lifetime no woman will do that again and no young nurse has to witness it or poor parent look upon such awful sight and know fear drove young girl to do this
When contraception clinics came in men would stand outside making hell for women going into it and the MALE government tried stop these clinics,better the little woman had her tenth child stayed home with no rights.I have no reason think different in States worse if anything
 
caz said:
men write laws years ago.....I think I may have said this before but when I was young girl in A&E the nursing sister took me by hand showed me young 15yr old dead next to her the baby as it was by that time a baby not fetus she was nearly 40weeks and next to baby was baby hand in another dish...the mother of dead girl was distraught..
By this time the 1967 abortion act came in and awful sights like this dimished..I prey in my lifetime no woman will do that again and no young nurse has to witness it or poor parent look upon such awful sight and know fear drove young girl to do this
When contraception clinics came in men would stand outside making hell for women going into it and the MALE government tried stop these clinics,better the little woman had her tenth child stayed home with no rights.I have no reason think different in States worse if anything
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Okay, I can understand where you are coming from... and understand the terminology...
I am sorry you had to see that...
 
You know, in El Salvador 57% of pregnant women 10-19 die from suicide, primarily because they can't get an abortion. There's no need to turn our country into that. Women in Texas are already buying a drug from Mexico that can induce abortion. The abortion restrictions really need to go, and all that effort to cutting off access can be spent in ways that actually do reduce abortions.
 
Eater of Worlds said:
You know, in El Salvador 57% of pregnant women 10-19 die from suicide, primarily because they can't get an abortion. There's no need to turn our country into that. Women in Texas are already buying a drug from Mexico that can induce abortion. The abortion restrictions really need to go, and all that effort to cutting off access can be spent in ways that actually do reduce abortions.
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Well you know what they say about statistics, just like people if yoU torture them long enough they tell you what you want.
As for restricted abortion turning the united states into el salvadore...
Meh
Really
Oh...
I see pigs flying..
Damn
Now if you want to have a real discusion about the real issue,
lets do it.
 
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