Gas customers rage about pump prices

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I don't like paying $30 for a fillup, but I won't take it out on the cashier. They don't set the prices.

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Gas customers rage about pump prices
By TIM MOLLOY, Associated Press Writer
Mon May 29, 2:06 PM ET

Tempers are rising along with gas prices. Gas stations across the country report that drivers are taking out their gas rage against big oil by yelling at clerks and cashiers and sometimes driving off without paying.

"Everyone is suffering at the same time," said Sam Shirazie, a clerk at a Chevron station east of downtown Los Angeles. "If I could help to reduce that pain, I would."

No detailed statistics are kept on incidents of gas rage. But the National Association of Convenience Stores said anecdotal evidence indicates they have increased since prices began climbing in February.

Employees of Fleming Corp., which operates 14 gas stations in Kansas and Missouri, have heard everything from "just a mumble-grumble kind of thing to a cheap shot or blaming the clerk for world oil prices," owner Ed Roitz said.

Division manager Ron Davis hears complaints firsthand.

"Out of all our customers, probably 1 percent does the loudest squealing," he said. "I don't want to repeat some of it. They'll talk about the blankety-blank oil companies."

The convenience stores association advises store owners to ensure that employees understand the costs associated with gas, and encourages them to explain to customers that in some cases they aren't making any profits despite the soaring price of fuel. Retailers make about two-thirds of their profits from items inside the store, he said.

But, "don't dismiss customer complaints because we're in the customer service business, and anytime you don't address customer complaints they'll go somewhere else," association spokesman Jeff Lenard said.

Steve Grosse is trying humor to defuse tempers. At his Shell station in Manhattan Beach, he replaced the price of gas with the words "arm," "leg" and "first born."

In Los Angeles, Chevron station co-owner Anthony Sinai has started giving free sodas to customers who pump $20 worth of gas. He wants to avoid a repeat of an incident last year when an upset customer threw a cup of coffee at a female clerk and knocked over display items.

Consumers might finally be getting at least a temporary break at the pump. The latest figures released May 21 by the Lundberg Survey indicate the nationwide average price of self-serve regular fell about 1.45 cents in the previous two weeks to $2.93 a gallon — the first dip since the Feb. 24 price of $2.24 began to climb.

Convenience stores that sell gas are responsible for three-quarters of all gas sales in the United States, Lenard said. But only 3 percent of those stations are owned by oil companies.

Sinai said most of his steady customers understand that he makes just a few cents per gallon and that gas prices are controlled by market forces far beyond his control.

"When I explain that to people they're just totally surprised because they expect us to make a lot more money," he said.

Police in Los Angeles and San Diego — the city with the highest gas prices in the nation — haven't noticed any violent trends toward gas station workers. But there have been gas-related crimes around the nation.

In Austin, Texas, a man was arrested this month for investigation of stealing hundreds of gallons of fuel from underground tanks while posing as a parking lot cleaner. He sold the gas from his driveway, police said.

In Fond du Lac, Wis., the number of reported cases of customers driving off without paying for gas doubled to 100 in the first four months of this year compared to the first four months of 2005, police Maj. Kevin Lemke said.

"We've talked to a lot of the owners that are having problems and made some suggestions like maybe they need to start thinking about pre-pay," Lemke said, "but in a small community like Fond du Lac they don't want to inconvenience even their good customers because of a few bad customers."

Retailers in other areas have had the same problem with pre-pay, the convenience store association said.

Gasoline theft cost the industry an estimated $237 million in 2004, the most recent year for which statistics are available, according to the group. Some retailers have installed security cameras, increased employee monitoring of pumps and advised workers to greet customers to take away their feeling of anonymity.

An incident last August prompted gasoline industry groups to tell workers not to risk lives by trying to stop drive-offs.

In Fort Payne, Ala., station owner Husain "Tony" Caddi, 54, was killed while grabbing the vehicle of a man trying to drive away without paying for $52 worth of gas.

The driver, Alvin Dwight Benefield, 42, pleaded guilty to manslaughter and was sentenced to five years in prison.


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Wow I agree with you on this.. but it's not fair that the gas price is so high. We have to pay more for gas in our paychecks more than other things we need like food and bills.. a roof to live under. Sigh.. damn dumbya Bush! :mad:
 
Yeppers, gas prices are too high for my taste. For example, it will cost about $200 to fill up gas round trip from Washington to California in a economy car. In year 2001, it would cost about $80 to fill up round trip, big difference in price!
 
I agree, stupid gas companies... Bush is liar because oil companies aren't largest problem but several countries have cheap gas prices than USA and that's not fair. People in LA are out of control with gas and crime for gas-related are skyrocketing and complain alot. Some people just use fake credit card to get worth of gas like my friend use alot, that make me so laugh.

It's still little cheaper than in late 70's and early 80's that where oil budget crisis, then gas prices are skyrocketed but that one are good reason but for now with high gas prices are bullshit, gas companies are just want get alot of money and buy nice mansions when bosses are retired, they did send into big bucks in retirement account. We need boycott away from gas stations.
 
ITPjohn said:
I don't like paying $30 for a fillup, but I won't take it out on the cashier. They don't set the prices.

$30 for a fill up?!? I put $27 in yesterday and I was at half a tank! My car gets about 24 mpg. I wish my new one would arrive.. *sigh!*


I agree. Gas prices SUCK. But don't take it out on cashiers!
 
More likely than not, the ones that scream the loudest are the ones with the largest suv's. So, should we feel sorry for them?

I don't. :D :slap:
 
yeah its common here in arkansas driving off without paying for gas .. but not long ago they made new law.. if someone drive off without paying and was caught- you can lose your LICENSE!

Wonder if that will work??? make them think twice?? what about other states ??? i wonder if they have same practice as Ark does? hmm
 
Im so lucky because I bought car 2 yrs ago and Ive also sold truck. If I still have truck, that I didn't buy car I would be so screwed because it would cost me around $50 to $60 for full tank! Ouch. But I sometimes wish gas price will drop soon because we are suffering enough with high gas price!! Its absurd! :mad:
 
That is why I dont drive around too much unless it is nessecary. Like go to work or food shopping not just to cruise around. That sad. I tried to fill my tank when the needle hit the less then half of the tank. So that way I dont have to pay too much for the gas.
 
me too.. i only use car for food shopping and dr visits.. thats it!
 
I agree don't take it out on the cashiers. They don't set the gas prices.

*Sigh* I guess I have to keep reminding everybody.

I keep seeing how the blame game is in full swing with most of it going against either Bush or the Oil Companies. I wish it were so simple. Gasoline prices in the US is complicated and not something the average Joe easily understands...hence all these kinds of stories about bashing the convenience stores, cashiers and the ilk.

If you are going to blame Bush, then you need to blame every president all the way back to Carter at least (when the first crisis hit us). None of these guys were able to come up with a comprehensive plan that bespoke of an intelligent energy policy to "ween" us off of this vicious dependency we have with oil. Some tried but look where we are now...no better than Carter's time other than some improvements like MPH efficiency figures plus energy efficencies in general (like we are using about the same amount of oil for the past decade proportionally speaking). Fortunately, we are starting to see significant investments in alternatives but this all takes time.

If you are going to blame the oil companies, then you might make a better case but...there are external factors to consider. Who sets the energy policies? The gov't of course (now you can see this goes in circles). What kind of economic system do we have? Well, one that is oriented to a free market system with the prices being determined by supply and demand. Who decides what vehicles we drive? The last I checked that is by personal choice and nobody has a gun to their head saying buy this!

All of this is at the tip of the iceberg and would take a very long post to bring all this out. So, the point is we as a country need a coherent national energy policy to decrease our energy consumption especially from cars more than anything else. This may mean sacrificing the freedom of vehicles to have more options with mass transit. I can see this causes most people some pause as there are major implications here. The average Joe is just as much to blame because they vote with their feet and he says I ain't giving up my car(s). So, he doesn't vote for politicians that have great ideas about energy conservation because it may inconvenience him!!!

We even voted not to open up more oil producing regions in the US like Alaska or offshore because of pollution and/or tourism concerns. So, what is more important here? If protecting the environment and tourism concerns are more important, then we need to shut up about the price of gas and just get with developing the alternatives!!!

Last thing, Europe has a more intelligent policy and that is why they have much higher prices for gasoline. They tax it to death so people will take mass transit.

My caveat is "Be careful what you ask for and you may get it!"
 
It is depressing for everyone. It is hard on my sons to drive to work and not much bring home $$$$$$$$$$. No wonder they can not live on their own.
And I stopped going to gym everyday, 20 miles each way. I am getting fatter, damn it.

Now we have motorcycle cuz it is cheapest but I only ride it with my husband.
 
Yea, gas prices in Europe is rediciously high because of taxes, USA gives low taxes that people can afford to buy gas but oil crude is #1 issues in the world. People in USA need go out and big protest against gas prices, or called gas strikes with biggest march around many cities, even more than protest on immigrant bills. Gas prices/or oil companies are good reason to protest but new immigrant bills aren't because immigrants need to get green card/or VISA before move in USA then no worry about get felony.
 
jazzy said:
It is depressing for everyone. It is hard on my sons to drive to work and not much bring home $$$$$$$$$$. No wonder they can not live on their own.
And I stopped going to gym everyday, 20 miles each way. I am getting fatter, damn it.

Now we have motorcycle cuz it is cheapest but I only ride it with my husband.


Yeah me too I stopped driving to the Gym workout
because I need to preserve gas.. Sigh !.
I try to take a brisk walk around the blocks here...

jazzy, it looks like you live in a rural country oh well...
 
TrippLA said:
Yea, gas prices in Europe is rediciously high because of taxes, USA gives low taxes that people can afford to buy gas but oil crude is #1 issues in the world. People in USA need go out and big protest against gas prices, or called gas strikes with biggest march around many cities, even more than protest on immigrant bills. Gas prices/or oil companies are good reason to protest but new immigrant bills aren't because immigrants need to get green card/or VISA before move in USA then no worry about get felony.

I hear you but it isn't going to make any difference. The cost of crude is determined by many factors. If a country can't supply all its own oil (the US and others like China, India, Japan and etc), it is hostage to the price fetched at the market and of course what the producers are willing to pump too (OPEC and non-OPEC). We also have the problem of not having much extra capacity to refine it either (when do you think the last oil refinery was built? Over 25+ years ago and there is one finally going up in Arizona in the desert). That was because of the NIMBY effect and how like us to be so shortsighted about it. The price of crude has many variables and one is risk. The supply side has very little leeway and any disruptions roils the market and of course prices.

What we need is either to get rid of cars (not trucks that deliver products) or find an alternative "fuel" source. There are no two ways about it. Oil isn't here forever and the sooner we understand that the better off we will be.

We just don't have a viable political system that is able to come up with imaginative solutions to our problems at the present time (doesn't matter if Republicans or Democrats are in charge...sorry to say). It is going to get a whole lot worst before it improves when the top dogs finally get off their fannies and stop worrying about votes before anything is done properly. My greatest fear is that the political system as we know it now will be permanently changed forever...simply for the lack of oil. Oh well, the whole world is stuck like the Titanic going toward that iceberg.
 
SmileyGin said:
yeah its common here in arkansas driving off without paying for gas .. but not long ago they made new law.. if someone drive off without paying and was caught- you can lose your LICENSE!

Wonder if that will work??? make them think twice?? what about other states ??? i wonder if they have same practice as Ark does? hmm


Same thing in Tenn...Get caught driving off? Bye Bye License!


And oh the gas prices? I just grumble and fill the tank. But I sometimes give the sign the finger that is all lol
 
I feel alike
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BUSH's head...
and get rob the gas bump.... fill it up forever
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~Want go back 56.8 per litre and plenty fill up gas pump.. wud pay gas about 20 bux.. I wanted go back years ago... *mumbling*~
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Todays, Gas pump really out of control and way up high amount 60bux fill up..
Where Can we support our living decent and to provide our children needs foods/clothing and etc etc...

BUSH->
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->me FIRE HIM!
 
GalaxyAngel said:
I feel alike
33710313172.gif
BUSH's head...
and get rob the gas bump.... fill it up forever
7313352610.gif
~Want go back 56.8 per litre and plenty fill up gas pump.. wud pay gas about 20 bux.. I wanted go back years ago... *mumbling*~
mad0217.gif

Todays, Gas pump really out of control and way up high amount 60bux fill up..
Where Can we support our living decent and to provide our children needs foods/clothing and etc etc...

BUSH->
28121152688.gif
->me FIRE HIM!

Er...did you read my earlier posts today? Bush isn't the problem as much as you or others would like it to be... It wouldn't make any real difference who was the president.

Just remember there is a good reason why prices function the way they do in a free market economy. The more there is a demand for a product...the less there is of the product to go around. So, gas costs more. There is only so much oil to go around especially as China and to a lesser extent India are getting into the act.

Classic situation where you have to "Pick your poison"....translated as pay the gas or give up cars... :whistle:
 
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