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What is the purpose???

What is the purpose of having a college degree???

I went to Washington DC, there was one deaf VR counselor and Florida, there was 1 deaf V R counselor...

I don't understand why Gallaudet has strong reputation in social work field and counselor.

Deaf people, counselor??? Who will they counsel who? Not much deaf people out there that need counsel, how will they get job as counselor or psychotrist or psychologist?? And they won't get much money doing that.

It would be cool if deaf people own stores and business in Washington DC or near RIT or CSUN... because if there are Chinatown, why not we have DeafTown???

All we have to do is point... if we need to communicate with hearing people who want to buy our products.
It would be nice if all deaf people live in Washington DC....
Everyone will have jobs... selling and buying each other products.
Why not put money in deaf community, we can have our own bank,
casino, theatre, dating services, and all.... Would that be great???

But back to the question, what is the purpose for deaf people
to go to college and get a degree??? Because
I don't know any Deaf CEOs or managers, or with higher position
jobs....

And the salary is the same... Deaf people with college degree have
the same salary as the Deaf people without college degree.

I think Gallaudet should have McDonalds and Subway on their campus... owned by deaf people...

Because CSUN has Taco Bell, Subway, and Burger King on their campus...
And also, they have their own bank too, Matador Bank.

Gallaudet should do the same, and they should have "Bison Bank".
It would be so cool, to have our own deaf world.
But don't hired hearing people, just hired deaf people.
 
And oh..

yeah it would be great to have our own hospital...

just like georgetown and Howard hospital...

WHy not we have Gallaudet Medical Hospital???
It would be nice to have deaf doctors, deaf dentists...
and our own deaf pharmcists.

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Remember this, Gallaudet and Deaf world are very small compared with hearing world. And Yes if everything what you said, had happened and it would be very nice features and benefits for deaf world. Again, our deaf world are young compared with hearing world. We just finnaly had a deaf technology for our communciation and life needs. We still have a long way to go to get equal with hearing world. You could change that result, if you invented a short-cut with something.

I remembered a person is growing of reality with his dream to have a deaf village near-by of Souix Fall, South Dakota. I don't know where excalty of that information is. I heard it from at YLC'03 camp. That is a good start for our future deaf world.

I often saw that a deaf owner created the business and they put their marketing for only deaf world, and they are usually not successful business (what a long sentence). I am saying this because you may often do not see many deaf CEO or owner of business around world because of my statement. If you are meet a big business with deaf CEO are often oral person because being CEO must have strong communication system. They tend to prefer a word of,”(lower case)deaf” instead of, “Deaf.” I strongly encourage you to open business for deaf and hearing so you could have more chance of steady business and having successful business. Again, I strongly encourage on every one of you who are dreaming to own a business for our tomorrow life. TTT, why not you create a business like what you said, and you could be rich.
 
TTT said:
What is the purpose of having a college degree???

Deaf people, counselor??? Who will they counsel who? Not much deaf people out there that need counsel, how will they get job as counselor or psychotrist or psychologist?? And they won't get much money doing that.

But back to the question, what is the purpose for deaf people
to go to college and get a degree??? Because
I don't know any Deaf CEOs or managers, or with higher position
jobs....

And the salary is the same... Deaf people with college degree have
the same salary as the Deaf people without college degree.
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Our deaf world needs many counselors because they often do not know what to do. Often problems came out with drugs, too early to have a child into their life, or they had none of education in their life. Remember it is a beginning for our deaf world. I believe in 50 years later and our deaf world will be much far better than what we are experiencing.

I strongly disagree with your comments about deaf with college degree. It is very seriously important to have college degree to double our salaries in our working world. Many people wanted to make good money so they could have good life.

Without college, degree would be average with $25,000-34,000.
No college degree, $25,000-35,000
AA degree, $29,900-40,000
BA degree, $40,000-60,000
MA degree, $60,000-95,000 Doubled from AA degree and HS degree
PhD degree, $120,000 or more! Doubled from MA degree
It is very sad with our society at America. Many young students graduated with good degree often having hard time to find jobs because of our laying off crisis.

Remember some deaf people did not know what to do with their college degree or they do not have many things on their resume list. It is very important for every deaf people to have more than BA degree to conquest competition with hearing BA degree. You need to have very good impresses from your resume. From that point, the companies will have trust on you to do your work for the companies or governments.
 
Majority and minority don't care about students who had degrees from Gally, because they knew gally isn't very serious at education.. they always got major in party than courses!
 
I am not feeling comfortable to entrollment Gallaudet due to bad atmosphere. You can't go out during evening as pleasant. You need
to stay in the group.
 
TTT, I understand what you are saying but there are many of us who are successful in our own ways and we do not live in Washington DC.

I would not want to live in Washington DC anyway. Nor do I want to live in Laurent, South Dakota. I want my own privacy and world without dealing with crab theory or gossip on a daily basis.

If you look around, you will see that each city has their own successful deaf leaders and deaf owned businesses. You will be surprised at what you find out there.

By the way, I have a few friends who graduated from Gallaudet and are very successful in teaching, administration and counseling. It is not about Gallaudet itself. It is about each individual who makes the best out of life, period.
 
Meg said:
TTT, I understand what you are saying but there are many of us who are successful in our own ways and we do not live in Washington DC.

I would not want to live in Washington DC anyway. Nor do I want to live in Laurent, South Dakota. I want my own privacy and world without dealing with crab theory or gossip on a daily basis.

If you look around, you will see that each city has their own successful deaf leaders and deaf owned businesses. You will be surprised at what you find out there.

By the way, I have a few friends who graduated from Gallaudet and are very successful in teaching, administration and counseling. It is not about Gallaudet itself. It is about each individual who makes the best out of life, period.
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If you are meet a big business with deaf CEO are often oral person because being CEO must have strong communication system. They tend to prefer a word of,”(lower case)deaf” instead of, “Deaf.”
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Sorry I disagree with that. Yes, it seems like oral people are more sucessful, but it's not nessarly because of oral skills per se. It's probaly due to the fact that families who chose oral only tend to be very stereotypical Stepford suburb high acheivers. (you know the ones with parents who buy their kids toys to increase their SAT scores and the ones who hyperprogram their kids, and who don't let their kids be kids...the ones who adopt therapy as a lifestyle)
 
Sabrina said:
I am not feeling comfortable to entrollment Gallaudet due to bad atmosphere. You can't go out during evening as pleasant. You need
to stay in the group.
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Completely agreed! My roommate just got almost into rob and fight at outside of Gallaudet Campus just because he wore white t-shirt. I only can walk outside alone during day time. At nighttime and I have to be very awake and prepare for any unexpected sitaution and it is no fun to do that.
 
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deafdyke said:
Sorry I disagree with that. Yes, it seems like oral people are more sucessful, but it's not nessarly because of oral skills per se. It's probaly due to the fact that families who chose oral only tend to be very stereotypical Stepford suburb high acheivers. (you know the ones with parents who buy their kids toys to increase their SAT scores and the ones who hyperprogram their kids, and who don't let their kids be kids...the ones who adopt therapy as a lifestyle)
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I beg to differ here.

My brother and I grew up very oral and did not learn ASL until much later in college. I cannot imagine my mother as one of these stereotypical Stepford suburb high achievers. She never bought toys to increase our SAT scores or hyperprogrammed us. She was a hard working single mother who raised 4 children on her own. We were often poor and hungry while growing up.

I believe that oral people are most likely to be more successful because in my case, I began speech therapy at age 18 months. I was the youngest one in California history to begin speech therapy ever in history. Two hours a day five days a week 10 months a year forced us to be disciplined and made us work hard. I have these skills from these years so I have always worked very hard and feel I am successful today. I managed through elementary and high school entirely on my own because I worked very hard everyday to understood the teachers and get decent grades. I knew that life was not easy and it is all hard work.

I asked my friends of similiar backgrounds and they all said that they were forced to work hard at early age, thus becoming successful. Our parents pushed us hard and told us that we must prove it to society that we can do anything.

That is my 2 cents.
 
SoundWave said:
Majority and minority don't care about students who had degrees from Gally, because they knew gally isn't very serious at education.. they always got major in party than courses!
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Sadly, yes with that. But with, "always" seems wrong of word choice.
I don't often party. I have balance life with education and social life. It doesn't mean that I always party. I just balances my life. Some people haven't learned how to balance their life or they just want to be fit with "wrong" kind of people.

Bottom line. You just have to choose from which of those; party, education, or balance your life.
 
deafdyke said:
... It's probaly due to the fact that families who chose oral only tend to be very stereotypical Stepford suburb high acheivers. (you know the ones with parents who buy their kids toys to increase their SAT scores and the ones who hyperprogram their kids, and who don't let their kids be kids...the ones who adopt therapy as a lifestyle)
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Why do you assume that parents who want their children to achieve success are "Stepford" people who "hyperprogram" their kids, and don't let them be kids? I notice in many of your postings you mention "suburbs" like it is something evil. If parents can provide their children with opportunities in education, art, or sports, why should that be a bad thing? As long as children are not forced beyond their capabilities or overscheduled, then what's wrong? Also, why assume it is just the parents who choose oral methods that want high achievers? I am sure that there are some parents who use sign language who want their children to be high achievers, too.

You are right about one thing. Calling suburban high achievers "Stepford" is "stereotyping". I bet there are some inner city and farm families who want their kids to achieve and get high SAT scores, too.

I have read the bios on several successful Deaf individuals. The common factors are not oralism or pushy parents. The common factors are self-motivation, persistance, and hard work.
 
Any education is better than NO education!! Education = language!!

Why do deaf people have poor reading and writing scores? Because they don't learn the use of the English language until they are sometimes almost four and five years old when they start to school!! And people in this world communicate with written English!! There is no written down sign language!

Children with deaf parents are lucky and at least learn a language, sign language, at home!! Children of hearing parents sometimes never learn language at all until they are six or seven years old!!!

No language = no understanding of the English language when a child goes to school = no mastery of written English at the same grade level as hearing kids of the same age = the deaf kid is marked off as being not as smart as the hearing kid = less educational opportunities for the deaf kid = fewer deaf going to get an education = fewer deaf leaders and deaf people able to appreciate deaf culture and a deaf college!!

Statistics are great till you figure out what is behind those statistics!!

Galludet may not be the best college in the world,..but at least,..it is an education!!
 
I live in va area where a lot ppl go to gally. i do not like gally, bec they really emmphasize deaf power. that is old news. i went rit, never complained. i rather everyone to be equal.
 
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