Gallaudet under fire after official placed on leave over ballot signature

[TXgolfer]

perhaps you should expand further and try checking DOL and OCR since Galluadet University receives federal funding.

But did you miss this post?



now that you have stated that McCaskill was confronted by the faculty member and she was subsequently reported.... but is complainant's name a public knowledge? why is it that it takes a grapevine to find a name as claimed by Steinhauer?

Both administration and press didn't release the name to public (unless I missed it). To publicly release the name (typically thru mass media) especially by a person under investigation can still be subjected to criminal and civil liability depending on motive and situation.

if McCaskill released the name with intention to cause emotional distress on her... that's illegal.
if McCaskill released the name in a negligent manner, that's illegal.

But, merely releasing the name of your accuser.....not criminal...

 

[Steinhauer]

perhaps you should expand further and try checking DOL and OCR since Galluadet University receives federal funding.

But did you miss this post?



now that you have stated that McCaskill was confronted by the faculty member and she was subsequently reported.... but is complainant's name a public knowledge? why is it that it takes a grapevine to find a name as claimed by Steinhauer?

Both administration and press didn't release the name to public (unless I missed it). To publicly release the name (typically thru mass media) especially by a person under investigation can still be subjected to criminal and civil liability depending on motive and situation.

if McCaskill released the name with intention to cause emotional distress on her... that's illegal.
if McCaskill released the name in a negligent manner, that's illegal.

Pardon me counselor, did McCaskill release the name?

 

[Jiro]

Pardon me counselor, did McCaskill release the name?

did she? and how was it released? and why did you say this?

Apparently Jiro is quite unfamiliar with how the grapevine works at Gally

I know that Attorney J. Wyndal Gordon is quite capable of representing Dr. McCaskill. He has quite an impressive resume.

 

[Jiro]

But, merely releasing the name of your accuser.....not criminal...

that depends.

Post #186. and Post #209.

 

[Jiro]

That phrase has only been used once in this thread.

and all over threads.

Besides it is a friendly phrase that encourages a way of moving on....much like agreeing to disagree. I wouldn't think the site administrators would want to discourage people from being friendly.

there's only 1 administrator. and I don't think the site administrator want to discourage people from coming back because of quibblers.

 

[TXgolfer]

Pardon me counselor, did McCaskill release the name?

Actually he has said McCaskill has not released the name. He is attempting to defend his answer why. He actually has a valid point but he got all wound up in saying it would be criminal to do so.

The reason McCaskill has not released the name publicly is probably because she is still employed and it would violate her contract. That could give the university real cause for firing her. So I agree with him that she is not just withholding the name because she is the better person. She is probably doing so to protect herself.

 

[TXgolfer]

and all over threads.


there's only 1 administrator. and I don't think the site administrator want to discourage people from coming back because of quibblers.

Again, I don't see how being friendly would be considered a bad thing. Seems far more would be discouraged by personal attacks and name calling rather than friendliness.

 

[Jiro]

Actually he has said McCaskill has not released the name. He is attempting to defend his answer why. He actually has a valid point but he got all wound up in saying it would be criminal to do so.

The reason McCaskill has not released the name publicly is probably because she is still employed and it would violate her contract. That could give the university real cause for firing her. So I agree with him that she is not just withholding the name because she is the better person. She is probably doing so to protect herself.

all wounded up? I do not have all the facts at hand but leaking a confidential information can and would lead to criminal liability because it's actually illegal under federal law but that depends on motive and situation.

that is a fact. and a federal law.

 

[Jiro]

Again, I don't see how being friendly would be considered a bad thing. Seems far more would be discouraged by personal attacks and name calling rather than friendliness.

better to take a look at what happened to those who used phony victim card. Free advice for you- don't stray there. We don't want one less member.

moving on.

 

[Steinhauer]

did she? and how was it released? and why did you say this?

I said it because you apparently do not know how the Gallaudet grapevine works. You even stated that you were not familiar with how it works.

Dr. McCaskill, as far as I know, has not released the name. You have stated quite a number of times, that for her to do so would be criminal.

It isn't criminal.

According to the DC code we have previously addressed, putting Dr. McCaskill on leave was criminal. Well, that is the opinion of UCLA Law Professor Eugene Volokh. Do you have a degree in law Jiro?

According to UCLA law professor Eugene Volokh, Hurwitz act of putting McCaskill on paid administrative leave because she had “participated in a legislative initiative” could be perceived as a criminal violation. D.C. Code says that “[a]ny person who … by threats or intimidation, interferes with, or attempts to interfere with, the right of any qualified registered elector to sign or not to sign any initiative, referendum, or recall petition,” may be considered for criminal violation. This violation could equate to a $10,000 fine as well as a year in prison.

While the issue is with a referendum circulating around a Maryland law where D.C. code does not rule, Volokh attests that it could “indirectly apply” to McCaskill’s leave if she decides to pursue a civil law suit for money or reinstatement. “There might still be a civil wrongful-discharge-in-violation-of-public-policy tort claim … on the theory that it’s against public policy for employers to interfere with employees’ political choices, whether Maryland or D.C,” he said.

http://inthecapital.com/2012/10/11/...for-signing-gay-marriage-referendum-petition/

BuzzFeed put Volokh’s explanation into more simple wording:

In other words, D.C. has established that interfering with attempts to sign or not sign an initiative, referendum, or recall petition are against its public policy, so attempts to do so to anyone in the District, regardless of where the referendum is actually taking place, could make the person or institution doing so subject to a lawsuit.

 

[TXgolfer]

all wounded up? I do not have all the facts at hand but leaking a confidential information can and would lead to criminal liability because it's actually illegal under federal law but that depends on motive and situation.

that is a fact. and a federal law.

If you find where giving the name of someone who confronts you in a public hallway is a federal crime...please let me know. I am unfamiliar with such a thing and would love to read about it.

The irony is that this faculty member went on a witch hunt searching through this petition for familiar names and now wants to remain anonymous.

 

[Steinhauer]

If you find where giving the name of someone who confronts you in a public hallway is a federal crime...please let me know. I am unfamiliar with such a thing and would love to read about it.

The irony is that this faculty member went on a witch hunt searching through this petition for familiar names and now wants to remain anonymous.

Exactly ... what a coward

 

[VacationGuy234]

The irony is that this faculty member went on a witch hunt searching through this petition for familiar names and now wants to remain anonymous.

I think it's doubtful anyone went searching for names given the effort one would have to put into it. It's much more likely that the information was readily available that a name existed on a petition.

Basically, this is about two employees who do not like each other or one activist out of control. Either way, the school has the right to decide if she is the correct person for the job. And, there is no doubt that the school is going to spend money it could be spending on education, sadly.

 

[Foxrac]

Pardon me counselor, did McCaskill release the name?

Who is counselor?

I don't know that you have counselor now and I can't wait for counselor to fix your fool. Get a real man instead of act like fool.

 

[Jiro]

If you find where giving the name of someone who confronts you in a public hallway is a federal crime...please let me know. I am unfamiliar with such a thing and would love to read about it.

that's not what I said at all. you missed entire point and we'll just leave it at that.

The irony is that this faculty member went on a witch hunt searching through this petition for familiar names and now wants to remain anonymous.

again - filing a formal complaint against an employee is confidential. just because this faculty member confronted her doesn't mean he/she is the one who filed a complaint against her. could be coincidental. could be him/her.

 

[Jiro]

I said it because you apparently do not know how the Gallaudet grapevine works. You even stated that you were not familiar with how it works.

Gally is not the only place with "grapevine". and no I've never said I don't know how "grapevine" works. I said "....unless I missed something."

FYI - grapevine is based on assumption while rumor is based on lack of communication. so that's a lot of assumption you've made there.

Like I said before - this sounds like a problem that Gally has to fix or risk criminal/civil liability. filing a formal complaint should be confidential.

Dr. McCaskill, as far as I know, has not released the name. You have stated quite a number of times, that for her to do so would be criminal.

It isn't criminal.

Like I said - depending on the nature of situation and the motive, releasing her name could be criminal under federal law. confer with OCR and DOL website.

According to the DC code we have previously addressed, putting Dr. McCaskill on leave was criminal. Well, that is the opinion of UCLA Law Professor Eugene Volokh. Do you have a degree in law Jiro?

Gallaudet Admin Suspended Signing Anti-Gay Marriage Petition | InTheCapital

Is Volokh directly involved in this situation and has all the facts at hand?

no? then his opinion is basically worthless. all hearsay.

 

[Jiro]

Gallaudet University’s chief diversity officer to discuss being put on leave - The Washington Post

McCaskill is scheduled to speak at 2 p.m. at Lawyer’s Mall, 100 State Circle (College Avenue) in Annapolis.

3.5 hrs to go. *twiddling thumbs*

 

[TXgolfer]

that's not what I said at all. you missed entire point and we'll just leave it at that.


again - filing a formal complaint against an employee is confidential. just because this faculty member confronted her doesn't mean he/she is the one who filed a complaint against her. could be coincidental. could be him/her.

We are all aware of what you said in post 166. (now 156) Article says it was the same Faculty member...

 

[TXgolfer]

I think it's doubtful anyone went searching for names given the effort one would have to put into it. It's much more likely that the information was readily available that a name existed on a petition.

Basically, this is about two employees who do not like each other or one activist out of control. Either way, the school has the right to decide if she is the correct person for the job. And, there is no doubt that the school is going to spend money it could be spending on education, sadly.

According to the article the faculty member got McCaskills name from a list that was published.

 

[Foxrac]

Gallaudet University’s chief diversity officer to discuss being put on leave - The Washington Post


3.5 hrs to go. *twiddling thumbs*

It will be 1:00 pm in my time zone.