Friends/colleague/teachers of CI wears

[Angel]

I voted "I have met more successful CI users" and "others".

I have several friends who are CI users and am a good friend with one of the hearing parent who just recently got her daughter implanted.

I also believe in parents and individuals choice

As it is every parent's right to choose what is best for their child and to understand the various options available.

I can only hope that parents would continue OR learn sign language with their deaf children.

Anyways, I think I'm rambling here a bit

 

[dreama]

Thanks everyone who posted so far.

Vallee: I don't think Shel was trying to offend you by saying she was sick of hearing about CI's but they DO tend to come up a lot and I feel very much that their are myths on BOTH sides.

Your CI's are obviously a success but not everyone is the same. Sometimes a parent will priortize speech at the expense of more important subjects such as literacy skills. As an adult you have a right to prioritize whatever you want but a child should have a full tool box approach and it seems some of Shel's children come to her without that in a bad way so that will probably influence her views.

 

[shel90]

Thanks everyone who posted so far.

Vallee: I don't think Shel was trying to offend you by saying she was sick of hearing about CI's but they DO tend to come up a lot and I feel very much that their are myths on BOTH sides.

Your CI's are obviously a success but not everyone is the same. Sometimes a parent will priortize speech at the expense of more important subjects such as literacy skills. As an adult you have a right to prioritize whatever you want but a child should have a full tool box approach and it seems some of Shel's children come to her without that in a bad way so that will probably influence her views.

You got that right.

 

[Pinky]

I have a friends wearing implanted and some friends stopped wear implanted because it's not success in last decade ago. I believe it's success in new tech for CI.

It's parent's decide for children to get implant to hear and can use sign languages.

I have third cousin has implanted. It's successful! I used to be hard deal with his mom about implanted. It's her choice for her son. He don't use sign language. I don't support it.

For me, I want to learn how to listen the sound of environment when I get CI.

I am not sick of hear about CI. I am very open mind!

 

[MomToDeafChild]

I have never encouraged any of these myth. However, one myth that I may not agree with...that they are in it for the big bucks. How does one really know? Would a dr report that they arent in it for the bucks be really honest about that? I cant say that it is a myth or not cuz I dont really trust the medical industry 100%.

I'm confused about doctors not being honest about doing implants for the bucks, lol.

My daughter's surgeon bill was $17,053. Insurance allowed $2219. For the skill involved, $2219 is nothing. I've had more expensive car bills. So how can anyone say they are making bucks off implants?

 

[Hear Again]

I'm confused about doctors not being honest about doing implants for the bucks, lol.

My daughter's surgeon bill was $17,053. Insurance allowed $2219. For the skill involved, $2219 is nothing. I've had more expensive car bills. So how can anyone say they are making bucks off implants?

Not to mention the fact that some CI recipients have their surgeries paid for by Medicaid or Medicare. As a result, the hospital ends up losing a significant amount of money since they are not reimbursed for the full cost of surgery.

 

[web730]

Obviously, it should be promoted much less!

Yet I don't mind them having CIs only if they learn ASL, too.

I'm not too sure about them very young getting CIs... but for teens and adults, I don't mind since they understood the choices before they chose to.

 

[AlleyCat]

One thing about CIs and sign language ... I have my first appointment with a CI audiologist at the U of M (known to be a very good program, it's been written up about in many magazines) next month ... one thing that was said is that regardless of getting a CI or not, you are STILL deaf. (I never thought otherwise.) It is my hope that my communication methods are easier met with a CI (better speech, better speech comprehension, etc.) but it is never going to make me turn my back to the deaf community. Why should it? These are people I've grown up with, known my whole life. It only will help me (hopefully) adapt better to the hearing world. But I'll always sign to all my deaf friends, why wouldn't I? I LOVE the language!

Having said that, I do know of one person (an adult, about my age) who received bi-lateral CIs (not simulataneously) and has now denounced the deaf community - she REFUSES to sign. She won't interact with any deaf person unless she can speak to them. And, for most, that's difficult. I simply don't understand that.

 

[jillio]

This type of comment fuels the fire. For me, I do care about my speech and listening skills. This comment might not matter to others, but to me it does. This deaf person does care about the truth of CI, my access to sound, educational opportunities, and my ability to communicate using speech and listening.

That comment is not "fueling the fire." It is telling the truth. If that fuels a fire, perhaps it is those that are feeling the heat that should look a bit closer at their own reactions and where they are coming from.

 

[jillio]

Not to mention the fact that some CI recipients have their surgeries paid for by Medicaid or Medicare. As a result, the hospital ends up losing a significant amount of money since they are not reimbursed for the full cost of surgery.

Actually, they overbill knowing that Medicare/Medicaid or any other insurance will not reimburse full expense. If reimbursed at a percentage, they elevate the billing costs to make up for the amount that will not be covered. Hence, the reason that a dose of Tylenol is billed at the rate of $10.00 per dose.

 

[jillio]

I'm confused about doctors not being honest about doing implants for the bucks, lol.

My daughter's surgeon bill was $17,053. Insurance allowed $2219. For the skill involved, $2219 is nothing. I've had more expensive car bills. So how can anyone say they are making bucks off implants?

They certainly aren't loosing money, or they would not continue to perform the surgery at an ever increasing rate, nor would they promote it as a first alternative.

 

[jillio]

One thing about CIs and sign language ... I have my first appointment with a CI audiologist at the U of M (known to be a very good program, it's been written up about in many magazines) next month ... one thing that was said is that regardless of getting a CI or not, you are STILL deaf. (I never thought otherwise.) It is my hope that my communication methods are easier met with a CI (better speech, better speech comprehension, etc.) but it is never going to make me turn my back to the deaf community. Why should it? These are people I've grown up with, known my whole life. It only will help me (hopefully) adapt better to the hearing world. But I'll always sign to all my deaf friends, why wouldn't I? I LOVE the language!

Having said that, I do know of one person (an adult, about my age) who received bi-lateral CIs (not simulataneously) and has now denounced the deaf community - she REFUSES to sign. She won't interact with any deaf person unless she can speak to them. And, for most, that's difficult. I simply don't understand that.

Nor do I, Alley Cat.

 

[rick48]

Yea, to be honest, I get kinda sick of hearing about CIs because deaf people are not all about speech and listening skills.

Well then do not spend time and post in a cochlear implant forum.

 

[shel90]

One thing about CIs and sign language ... I have my first appointment with a CI audiologist at the U of M (known to be a very good program, it's been written up about in many magazines) next month ... one thing that was said is that regardless of getting a CI or not, you are STILL deaf. (I never thought otherwise.) It is my hope that my communication methods are easier met with a CI (better speech, better speech comprehension, etc.) but it is never going to make me turn my back to the deaf community. Why should it? These are people I've grown up with, known my whole life. It only will help me (hopefully) adapt better to the hearing world. But I'll always sign to all my deaf friends, why wouldn't I? I LOVE the language!

Having said that, I do know of one person (an adult, about my age) who received bi-lateral CIs (not simulataneously) and has now denounced the deaf community - she REFUSES to sign. She won't interact with any deaf person unless she can speak to them. And, for most, that's difficult. I simply don't understand that.

That's sad cuz I assume friendships were destroyed as a result of that and in today's world, friendships are so precious.

 

[Daredevel7]

Well then do not spend time and post in a cochlear implant forum.

Oooh burn.
I'm not sick of people talking about their CI's, however I AM sick of people arguing about the extremes of CIs (best thing to do/worst thing to do). Just for once, I'd love to see someone who actually HAD a CI argue against it! Just for something different.

Anyway, I've met several random people who had a CI, but I don't know them well enough to judge how it affected their lives. However I do have a family member who I've known for 13 years, and he got the CI about 8 years ago when he was around 7-8 years old. Before the CI, he had NO standard language whatsoever, resorting to homemade sign language. After getting the CI and spending several years in a school for the deaf, not only he acquired language and reached his grade level, but his speech surpassed mine. He talks on the cell regularly (teenagers!) and is in a mainstream school. It turns out that he had way more problems than just deafness. He was also legally blind (he could still see a lot but his vision was that bad) and had a learning disability (ADD). However, this was not determined until after the CI. So the CI was very very good for him.

 

[jillio]

Oooh burn.
I'm not sick of people talking about their CI's, however I AM sick of people arguing about the extremes of CIs (best thing to do/worst thing to do). Just for once, I'd love to see someone who actually HAD a CI argue against it! Just for something different.

Anyway, I've met several random people who had a CI, but I don't know them well enough to judge how it affected their lives. However I do have a family member who I've known for 13 years, and he got the CI about 8 years ago when he was around 7-8 years old. Before the CI, he had NO standard language whatsoever, resorting to homemade sign language. After getting the CI and spending several years in a school for the deaf, not only he acquired language and reached his grade level, but his speech surpassed mine. He talks on the cell regularly (teenagers!) and is in a mainstream school. It turns out that he had way more problems than just deafness. He was also legally blind (he could still see a lot but his vision was that bad) and had a learning disability (ADD). However, this was not determined until after the CI. So the CI was very very good for him.

While I don't doubt that the CI was very beneficial for him, I would question why the only language he had was homemade signs. He obviously was attempting to acquire language, but it was not being provided in a mode that allowed for him to do so.

If you want to see someone's points against CI after having been implanted, you might want to check out the threads by smithtr.

 

[Daredevel7]

While I don't doubt that the CI was very beneficial for him, I would question why the only language he had was homemade signs. He obviously was attempting to acquire language, but it was not being provided in a mode that allowed for him to do so.

If you want to see someone's points against CI after having been implanted, you might want to check out the threads by smithtr.

Honestly, I have no idea. I was surprised that the parents were willing to do homemade signs while they spoke, but not do formal sign language like ASL. I didn't want to ask because it wasn't my place. The parents knowing me (good speech skills, oral only) personally probably didn't help and I'm sure the docs/audi did the whole "No ASL!" tactic with the parents. I wish I could ask them but it seems kinda offensive?

Thanks for info about smithtr.

 

[dreama]

Just for once, I'd love to see someone who actually HAD a CI argue against it! Just for something different.

Their is one thread. I resurected it not long ago.