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Jiro said:
great advice. so why aren't you following your own advice? :lol:

I don't know why you are being very difficult and combative in every single thread. it would be much easier for you if you just admit a mistake that you should wait and let the investigation and government decide whether or not if he is guilty of revealing classified information.
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What mistake? He has admitted he did not get prior authorization from DoD before opening his mouth to the publishers. That is a FACT.


Yes, I am being difficult and combative. All because I'm being attacked first. I'll stand my ground against any attack you choose to throw at me.
 
rolling7 said:
What mistake? He has admitted he did not get prior authorization from DoD before opening his mouth to the publishers. That is a FACT.


Yes, I am being difficult and combative. All because I'm being attacked first. I'll stand my ground against any attack you choose to throw at me.
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In bold - Good luck, you will FLY to banland.

Jiro wasn't attacking you and he's just want you to prove that Mark Owens is criminally charged or not. That shows you can't stand up in debate and you should get out of this thread by go look around and do regular chat.

Right now, Mark Owens isn't criminally charged and DoD is currently investigate on those issue. We don't know until DoD finishes the investigation and in matter of respect, Fox News shouldn't reveal it at first place, even no matter if first party makes mistake.
 
rolling7 said:
What mistake? He has admitted he did not get prior authorization from DoD before opening his mouth to the publishers. That is a FACT.
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You pretty much got everything wrong. Mark Owen failed to submit the material to government for security review and approval as par pre-publication consultation obligation.

Nondisclosure Obligation is another story. From what I see, he has not disclosed any classified information.

rolling7 said:
Yes, I am being difficult and combative. All because I'm being attacked first. I'll stand my ground against any attack you choose to throw at me.
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I'm questioning the validity of your reasoning and argument. That's not an attack. All I asked you is if Mark Owen has been arrested and criminally charged. You repeatedly did not answer that question.
 
Jiro said:
You pretty much got everything wrong. Mark Owen failed to submit the material to government for security review and approval as par pre-publication consultation obligation.

Nondisclosure Obligation is another story. From what I see, he has not disclosed any classified information.


I'm questioning the validity of your reasoning and argument. That's not an attack. All I asked you is if Mark Owen has been arrested and criminally charged. You repeatedly did not answer that question.
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Yes, I did answer and this is what I meant by being attacked.

Go back and re-read the answer:

In due time, Jiro, in due time.
 
rolling7 said:
Yes, I did answer and this is what I meant by being attacked.

Go back and re-read the answer:

In due time, Jiro, in due time.
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Is Mark Owens criminally charged by DoD for release the confidential information without authorization?

YES OR NO
 
Foxrac said:
Is Mark Owens criminally charged by DoD for release the confidential information without authorization?

YES OR NO
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In sure time, Foxrac, in due time.

You are thinking this is a hour long T/V show. Well it is not and you will just have to wait. It would be helpful if you would learn to read because I've already posted the answer to your question when I answered the same question from Jiro.
 
rolling7 said:
In sure time, Foxrac, in due time.

You are thinking this is a hour long T/V show. Well it is not and you will just have to wait. It would be helpful if you would learn to read because I've already posted the answer to your question when I answered the same question from Jiro.
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I'm just ask a question to make sure that you understand.

Please pick YES or NO.

I don't want to hear alternative answer, that all I need know is FACT.
 
Jiro said:
if you disagree with my post, is that called an attack too?


where exactly?


meaning... you've already found him guilty before all facts...
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Post #144

The only fact necessary is the fact that he admit to speaking to the publishers without authorization from DoD. This fact alone trumps anything you have posted. So I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm only stating THE FACT.
 
Foxrac said:
Is Mark Owens criminally charged by DoD for release the confidential information without authorization?

YES OR NO
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Uh oh...

WASHINGTON (AP) — Defense Secretary Leon Panetta is suggesting that a retired Navy SEAL be punished for writing a book giving an insider's account of the U.S. raid that killed terrorist leader Osama bin Laden.

Asked in a network interview if he thinks the writer should be prosecuted, Panetta replied, "I think we have to take steps to make clear to him and to the American people that we're not going to accept this kind of behavior."

Panetta was referring to the newly published account of the U.S. SEAL raid that led to bin Laden's killing in May 2011 in Pakistan. The book was written by a retired SEAL under the pseudonym of Mark 0wen. (SWK removed reference to his name)

In the interview, broadcast Tuesday on "CBS This Morning," Panetta told co-host Norah O'Donnell that if the Defense Department failed to take any action in response to the book, "then everybody else who pledges to ensure that that doesn't happen is gonna get the long signal, that somehow they can do it without any penalty to be paid."

Asked if the revelations could put future such operations at risk, Panetta said, "I think when someone who signs an obligation that he will not reveal the secrets of this kind of operation, and then does that and doesn't abide by the rules, that when he reveals that kind of information, it does indeed jeopardize operations and the lives of others that are involved in those operations."

The secretary stopped short of accusing the author of revealing classified information, but said Pentagon officials "are currently reviewing that book to determine exactly, you know, what is classified and what isn't, and where those lines are."

Panetta said the book, which went on sale this week, raises troubling national security questions.

"Well, I think when somebody talks about the particulars of how those operations are conducted, it tells our enemies, essentially, how we operate and what we do to go after them," he said.
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Source: Panetta hints punishment for bin Laden book author - Yahoo! News
 
rolling7 said:
Post #144

The only fact necessary is the fact that he admit to speaking to the publishers without authorization from DoD. This fact alone trumps anything you have posted. So I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm only stating THE FACT.
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there's nothing in there that prohibits him from speaking to publishers unless he disclosed a classified information.... which he claims he didn't.
 
Jiro said:
there's nothing in there that prohibits him from speaking to publishers unless he disclosed a classified information.... which he claims he didn't.
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ROFL.....The whole mission is classified, so just opening his mouth about it is a violation. Only DOD can release any information at all to the public, for anyone, military or otherwise, to release any and all information is a violation. He and the publisher do NOT get to determine what is classified. Only a fool would try that trick and only a fool would believe he could get away with it.
 
rolling7 said:
Already did.....see post #170....
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What?!

FACT: DoD hasn't PRESS the criminal charge until they complete the investigation.

You refused to say YES or NO, also I don't want hear any alternative answers because you confused other members.
 
rolling7 said:
ROFL.....The whole mission is classified, so just opening his mouth about it is a violation. Only DOD can release any information at all to the public, for anyone, military or otherwise, to release any and all information is a violation. He and the publisher do NOT get to determine what is classified. Only a fool would try that trick and only a fool would believe he could get away with it.
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so..... what did he leak? why weren't his books stopped by DoD?
 
Jiro said:
so..... what did he leak? why weren't his books stopped by DoD?
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How could they stop the publication? He didn't submit the manuscript to them for review or ask for permission to publish, and DoD can't prevent publishers from publishing material once it's in their hands.
 
Reba said:
How could they stop the publication? He didn't submit the manuscript to them for review or ask for permission to publish, and DoD can't prevent publishers from publishing material once it's in their hands.
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yes they can. National Security.
 
Jiro said:
so..... what did he leak? why weren't his books stopped by DoD?
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Reba is right. When if DoD finds his book violating a military law, they will sue the author and will possibly have all copies of his book to be removed from the stores by court order. So wait and see.
 
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