England to teach Sex Ed in Kindergarten.

Mrs Bucket said:
I must admit this is a bit too young to start teaching sex education at 5 years old when they are learning their 123's and ABC's.
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I disagree. I think this is a very good idea, especially if they do teach them about "bad touch" and sex offenders and stuff as well.

I was eight when a guy tried to rape me at the state school for the deaf. But because my mother told me at 6 years old about bad touching and about sex and what it is and what sex entails (yes, in graphic details) and what it can lead to, I knew what he was going to do to me and to say NO and to refuse and to try not to let him do it to me. I was stubborn not to allow him to do it to me. I was ready to fight. Thankfully, one of the school staff happened to be looking out of the second floor window when he was attempting to rape me, so she ran out of the building and caught him just before he was about to do it to me. And, because I knew about the sex stuff, I was able to somehow communicate to my mother what he tried to do to me in ASL. (the school did not inform my mother about the incident because they blamed the incident on ME, said that I incited him to rape me, which I did not. For shit's sake, I was EIGHT! I was a child!) When I told my mother what he did to me, my mother explode! (Not at me...she just was like "what?! Oh my god, honey, I'm so sorry he tried to do it to you, are you ok?" and crying and stuff. She was so upset that the school did not inform her. So, on Monday, my mom and I went straight to the school, went to the dorms and packed up all my stuff and put the stuff in her car, and then we headed to the administration office where she bitched and yelled at the principal and the higher-up people who knew about the incident and were supposed to call her but did not, and told them that because they did not inform her of the incident and did not do anything to discipline the guy and that she was pulling me out of school and enrolling me in the public school with a signing DHH program back in the city. She got all my school records, spoke with my teachers, and then we left. (The reason I'm calling him a guy and not a boy was because, even though he is two years older than me, he was a lot bigger than me and taller than and looked to be about 14 years old at the time of the incident even though he was only 10, so he does not seem like a boy.)

They should have expelled the guy for attempting to rape me, but they didn't. Then many years later, when I was 16 years old, one of the teenage boys in my foster home (hearing foster home) came home from public school in the guy's hometown (this foster home was near his home town) and told me that a deaf guy had enrolled in his school and would be in his class. He asked me if I knew the guy, he fingerspelled the name, and I was shocked. I was like, he is in your class? Why? He told me, that the guy told him that he was expelled for hitting the teacher. I told the boy that I don't believe the guy's story, and that I had a gut feeling that he hurt another girl too. I went to visit a deaf friend for the weekend (she went to the deaf school too) and told her I heard that the guy had been expelled, and I asked her if she knew the true reason he was expelled. Turned out, he has actually raped (and succeeded this time) another girl at my school, a girl I knew, who was considered "low functioning". I transferred back to the school for the deaf about 3 months later when I was placed in a deaf foster home near the school, and I saw the girl and I talked to her. She very clearly was affected by what he did to her, and I feel so sorry for her. I told the girl that if she ever wanted to talk to me, she could anytime. I couldn't believe that he did not go to jail for this or even go to court or anything for this, but that was probably because he was still under 18 when he did this to the girl.

Now, he is 30 now and currently on the sex offender registry for "first degree sexual assault on a child". That makes me so sad and angry, but I am not surprised, because he is a repeat offender. He was convicted in 2002 for this one, and is currently serving time in prison for this. I do not know how long he will be in prison for hurting that little girl, but his registration is for life on the sex offender registry in Wisconsin. I hope he will be in prison for LIFE, and if he ever get out, I will definitely be keeping my tabs on him via my friends in Wisconsin, and if I ever hear anything that he is not supposed to do such as getting a MySpace profile, I WILL REPORT HIM!

This is why I support early sex education for young children...KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! If they know about rape, sex abuse, sex assault, bad touching, etc, they will know what to do if someone tries to get them into his car or tries to touch them inappropriately or stuff like that. Ignorance/nonknowledge is very dangerous.
 
jillio said:
I would think that they would keep the program developmentally appropriate, and only give information that a child is capable of understanding at any particular age. Sex ed at this age is usually restricted to "good touch, bad touch" type information.

But yeah for the British government. At least they see that lack of sex ed and teen pregnancy is correlated.
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That's right. They would probably not teach as much sex stuff as my mother taught me. The reason my mother told me everything was because she was sexually abused as a child by her stepfather, and ended up in the foster care system herself as a result, and she wanted to try to ensure that I was safe as possible at a state school an hour away from home, especially since she was not going to be able to keep an eye on me while I'm at the school since students typically stay at the school and live in the dorms from Sunday night to Friday afternoons and spend weekends at home. She worried about me. She felt that there is no such thing as too much information in this case, and she was right. I'm going to do the same with my child when I have a child someday.
 
jillio said:
Yeah, not only are they unable to tell anyone, they don't even realize that there is anything wrong with what has happened to them until they are taught that it is wrong.
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That's right. If I didn't understand what was happening to me, I probably would have allowed the guy to do it to me, and I also wouldn't have known to tell my mother about it. Guys will tell children that what they are doing to them is OK and the child will believe him, or they will tell the child that if she or he tells someone, the guy will kill the child, and the child will be too frightened to tell anyone. The guy who attempted to rape me threatened to kill me if I did not let him do it to me by the count of 3. I was scared, but I still stood my ground and was ready to fight.
 
jillio said:
They wouldn't be teaching you about girls. They would be teaching you about your own body.
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That's right. I don't see anything wrong. My mom did the same thing...I remember one day I was in the bedroom and my mom was changing clothes. I was about 6. She noticed that I was staring at her boobs and her private parts. I was staring at them because I did not know what they were, and why I didn't have them at that time. She simply told me, "These are my breasts and my vagina. You will grow breasts and grow hair on your private parts when you are older. Right now you are too young to have those parts, so you will not have them for a long time." I said, "Oh okay" and it was really no big deal, and I did not think too much about it after that point past just simply knowing what these parts were and that I would eventually have those parts someday. It's better that she told me this than if I got some wrong information from someone else at school. It's good she explained things to me because my dad was rather irresponsible when I was at that age...he would watch playboy in the living room and then leave for work without changing the channel or turning the TV off, so I would come in the living room, and watch TV, and I saw a LOT of stuff I was not supposed to see, and it wasn't just simple missionary position sex...I saw a LOT of heterosexual sex, stripping, blowjobs, anal sex, girl on girl sex, guy on guy sex, etc, etc, etc. Would people rather that I got misinformation about that kind of stuff from friends at school, or have my mother explain those things to me? Eventually my mother had my dad get rid of that channel (I don't remember seeing that stuff past the age of 5).
 
sarasf said:
I would start talking about appropriate touching at age 2.
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I would start as soon as my child understands sign. A child is NEVER too young to learn about appropriate touching and bad touching. Remember, child molesters WILL molest children of ANY age, even babies.
 
SFShawn13 said:
And your point?
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I think you misunderstood. What Mockingbird means is that, sex abuse and pedophilia can occur at ANY age, even with babies. Even babies can be victims of sex abuse. Thus, it is best to teach them about bad and good touching and sex abuse and such stuff even at a very young age, because knowledge is power and can help protect them.
 
Can I put my 2 cents without being flamed ?

I think there is no age to teach a child about sex, but we have, as adults, to find the right words for it.
Teaching them about birth control is too young though.

In France, we have good books for that, like "Le guide du zizi sexuel" with Titeuf :P
 
My 3 year old is very curious wwhenever he sees my hubby and I naked...so I tell him that mommy is a girl and daddy is a boy and that he is the same as daddy. He has a friend who is a girl and whenever they need to go to the bathroom the other wants to watch so I teach both of them about privacy...The 3 year old girl picked up the concept of privacy quicker than my son so she signs "private" whenever my son needs to go to the bathroom but when she goes, my son still wants to watch.
 
shel90 said:
My 3 year old is very curious wwhenever he sees my hubby and I naked...so I tell him that mommy is a girl and daddy is a boy and that he is the same as daddy. He has a friend who is a girl and whenever they need to go to the bathroom the other wants to watch so I teach both of them about privacy...The 3 year old girl picked up the concept of privacy quicker than my son so she signs "private" whenever my son needs to go to the bathroom but when she goes, my son still wants to watch.
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:hmm: sounds like he's showing a very early symptoms of Jiro Syndrome :naughty:
 
My dad used to leave the door open when he goes to the bathroom, and he would allow me to stand there and watch. He would not tell me to go "scoot" and he did not shut the door. He just stood there and peed while I watched. He did that up until I was about 6 or 7 years old, or maybe even 8 years old. I'm not sure he should have done that, especially if he was irresponsible about leaving the Playboy channel on and leaving the TV on without turning the channel when he left for work in the first place. He should have taught me the concept of privacy, especially since he was a grown man. I dunno.

Jillio, what do you think? Especially since it was OK for me to see my mother naked while she was changing clothes since she explained her body parts to me, but I don't feel it was OK for me to watch my dad pee since he was irresponsible about me seeing the Playboy channel on TV and not changing the channel or turning the TV off before he left for work?
 
shel90 said:
He already flirts with attractive women...it is unbelievable!
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that's my dawg! Sounds like he bought the Jiro's Special Pimp Edition Sunglasses :cool2:
 
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