DUI = Acceptable?

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Sadly to say: From where I am DUI is like "every other day."

A friend got a DUI. Of course nobody's proud of getting a DUI.
The issue is... His boss was like "Oh, yer just the 4th person I know that got a DUI this month."

It's VERY common in Boulder. Nobody really say "Oh you got caught for that."
It's like, go use this lawyer, he's real good. You'll be fine.

How is it for everyone else?

(Note, I havent had a DUI yet.)
 
I think DUI's are despicable. Most people get away with it. Ugh. I'm a goody two shoes, but c'mon...
 
Want to know what's worse than a DUI?

Getting busted in a drug raid... and yet employers just shrug it off. Happened a lot in the oil town I am from. Like... why the hell you would hire someone that got charged with drug possessions on NUMEROUS occasions? Especially the harder stuff.
 
Want to know what's worse than a DUI?

Getting busted in a drug raid... and yet employers just shrug it off. Happened a lot in the oil town I am from. Like... why the hell you would hire someone that got charged with drug possessions on NUMEROUS occasions? Especially the harder stuff.

because as you said - an oil town. nobody cares about your drug records. As long as you can do the job, that's all they care. They need able-bodies, not brains. Show up on time, do the job, and collect your money. that's all. simple :dunno:

a serious drug addict.... obviously cannot do the job well. he will most likely get fired.
 
Want to know what's worse than a DUI?

Getting busted in a drug raid... and yet employers just shrug it off. Happened a lot in the oil town I am from. Like... why the hell you would hire someone that got charged with drug possessions on NUMEROUS occasions? Especially the harder stuff.

That worse than a DUI?

The worst thing i can think of is Meth making.
 
I think DUI's are despicable. Most people get away with it. Ugh. I'm a goody two shoes, but c'mon...

agreed. I think I told this story before in AD but I'll repeat. Couple months ago - while I was in motorcycle, waiting at traffic light. I smelled something very strong - a strong stench of weed. I angrily looked around to find who. I crept forward and saw this idiot young boy smoking weed with his foot up on dashboard. The interior of his vehicle was a pigsty. I followed him and looked ahead to find any nearby cop to report it.

Unfortunately I wasn't able to. :mad2:
 
It pisses me off that a driver charged with DUI can get a 2nd chance with ease..... as long as you hire a lawyer and pay off expensive fines. I do not believe they should get 2nd chance like that. I believe they should be temporarily suspended (mandatory) for a few months along with expensive fines.
 
It pisses me off that a driver charged with DUI can get a 2nd chance with ease..... as long as you hire a lawyer and pay off expensive fines. I do not believe they should get 2nd chance like that. I believe they should be temporarily suspended (mandatory) for a few months along with expensive fines.

minimum fines for a dui here in colorado is $10,270.

Problem is that there are a lot of ways to beat the system.
 
DUIs are tricky. I think it's terrible and highly irresponsible to drive when you are intoxicated to the point where it impairs your ability to drive. That said, many people can drive perfectly fine after drinking two or even three or four beers, which would be above the legal limit. The thing is, if you get pulled over and you've been drinking, even if you're below the legal limit, you can pretty much bet you're going to get busted, whether its wet reckless or a full blown DUI. I know many people who have gotten DUIs who were perfectly fine to drive; they just got pulled over on a bullshit reason by the cop. I know other people who have snuck off from parties before people could stop them who were way too drunk to drive, and they made it home without coming across a cop.

I personally just try to walk or ride my bike when I'm going out drinking.
 
DUIs are tricky. I think it's terrible and highly irresponsible to drive when you are intoxicated to the point where it impairs your ability to drive. That said, many people can drive perfectly fine after drinking two or even three or four beers, which would be above the legal limit. The thing is, if you get pulled over and you've been drinking, even if you're below the legal limit, you can pretty much bet you're going to get busted, whether its wet reckless or a full blown DUI. I know many people who have gotten DUIs who were perfectly fine to drive. I know other people who have snuck off from parties before people could stop them who were way too drunk to drive.

I'll admit, a cop talked to me while I was stopped on a side of a street trying to find my way out of a town I was lost in while being BUTT drunk, He told me to drive safe because i told him i was just using my phone.
Pretty sure I was .3 or very close to it taht night.
 
minimum fines for a dui here in colorado is $10,270.

Problem is that there are a lot of ways to beat the system.

wtf? $10,270!?!? no way! :eek3: It's usually around $1,000 range and yes you are right - there are plenty of ways to beat the system. there should be a "Zero Tolerance Policy". Any first-time DUI, your license get suspended for a few months and you pay hefty DUI fines & DMV fees.

but $10,270? wow.... even more extreme than I would enforce....
 
wtf? $10,270!?!? no way! :eek3: It's usually around $1,000 range and yes you are right - there are plenty of ways to beat the system. there should be a "Zero Tolerance Policy". Any first-time DUI, your license get suspended for a few months and you pay hefty DUI fines & DMV fees.

but $10,270? wow.... even more extreme than I would enforce....

I've been mistaken. The average cost for a DUI case is $10,270 here in Colorado. They upped the penalties for DUI's as of July 1st 2009.
 
I've been mistaken. The average cost for a DUI case is $10,270 here in Colorado. They upped the penalties for DUI's as of July 1st 2009.

hmm.... random google search -

colorado source
1st Colorado DUI Offense - Blood Alcohol Content .08 or Above
1st DUI
Jail – From 5 Days to 1 Year
Fine - From $600 - $1,000
License Suspension – 9 Months
License Points – 12
Public Service – From 48 to 96 Hours
Jail May be Suspended in Lieu of Alcohol Treatment Program

compared to NJ.....
Alcohol or drug related DUI with BAC of 0.10% or greater

license loss: 7 months– 1 year
fines: $300–$500 fine
$230 IDRC* fee
$100 to drunk driving fund
$100 to AERF*
$1,000/year (for 3 years) surcharge
$75 to Neighborhood Services Fund

prison term: Up to 30 days

community service: 12–48 hours IDRC*
 
DUI very serious laws but you can fines the laws.

many million people who got DUI for drive drinking that no jokes..

Arkansas DUI Laws & Drunk Driving Consequences
http://www.duiconsequences.com/state-info/arkansas-dui-laws.html

There are two ways you can be convicted of driving while intoxicated (DWI) in the state of Arkansas. The first way by proving that your driving is impaired due to the presence of alcohol or drugs in your system. This is known as a "common-law" DWI offense. The prosecution will need to show that your driving patterns or the failure of a filed sobriety test proved that you were intoxicated and not driving safely.

The other way you can be charged with DWI in Arkansas is through the state's per se law. This says that you can be convicted based solely on your blood alcohol content (BAC). It is illegal to drive in Arkansas with a BAC of .08% or higher, even if your driving appears to be safe.

DWI Arrests in Arkansas
When you are pulled over for suspicion of violating Arkansas DUI laws, you will be given a series of field sobriety tests. Based on these tests and your driving pattern, you may be arrested for DWI. At this point you will be asked to submit to a BAC test. If you refuse to take the test, this information can be used against you in court and also carries penalties in and of itself.

Your arrest creates two cases, one in the criminal courts and one in the Arkansas Department of Finance and Administration Office of Motor Vehicles. The administrative hearing will decide whether or not you can retain your license after your conviction. However, you have to request this hearing. If you fail to do so correctly within seven days of your arrest, you automatically lose your license. This is why it is so important to have a lawyer working with you to ensure that you file all of the necessary forms correctly and on time.

Basic Consequences for First Time Offenders
If your Arkansas DWI conviction is your first such conviction, you can expect to face the following consequences:

■Jail time of 1 day to 1 year
■Possible public service in place of jail time
■Between $150 and $1000 in fines
■Court costs of $300
■Possible ignition interlock device
■Alcohol education program
■Possible alcohol treatment program
Subsequent DWI offenses carry tougher penalties.

License Suspensions for Arkansas DWI
You will also pay for your Arkansas DWI offense by losing your license temporarily. The license suspension is handled in the administrative hearing. Common license suspension times are as follows:

■First offenders - 120 days
■Second offenders - 2 years
■Third offenders - 30 months
■Fourth offenders - 4 years

You may be able to apply for a restricted license after serving a portion of your suspension. This license will allow you to drive to and from work and school. If you refused to take the BAC test, you will face longer license suspensions. For instance, if it is your first offense and you refuse the BAC test, your license suspension time will be 180 days.

Insurance Consequences
Being convicted of an Arkansas DWI will also cause you to face severe consequences with your insurance company. You may be dropped completely, or you may find that the cost of your insurance increases dramatically. If you have to shop for a new insurance policy, your DWI conviction will make it difficult to find a company willing to insure you at a reasonable price. However, in order to get your license back, you will have to have proof of insurance.
 
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Remind me to never drive in your town.. drunk AND stoned drivers?! ((gulps))

I'll settle with my hometown, Chico, where the majority of the drivers are merely drunk :)
 
I personally just try to walk or ride my bike when I'm going out drinking.

Careful w/ riding a bike after you've been drinking 'cause that'd qualify you for a DUI as well.
 
There are too many people whom I know that have gotten DUIs here in Maryland and VA and yet are still able to continue driving.
 
He was referring to case itself the total cost, the information you got from googling is just a base cost, it does not include attorney fees, court fees, DMV administrative fees and so on. DUI cases is NOT cheap, thank god I never experience one and was close to experience one about 20 years ago.

hmm.... random google search -

colorado source


compared to NJ.....
 
Problem with suspended licenses is that for those who "follow the letter of the law" they'll end up without a way to work... unless they've a neighbor going that way and back home again or there is a good transit system that runs along their home and job during the hours that person works...
Sure many people still DRIVE on a suspended license anyway and HOPE they don't get caught... I did for a while until I got it cleared... (mine was suspended because didn't pay speeding ticket).
So prohibiting people from driving may cost them their job and ergo their source of income and they can't pay the fine and end up in jail anyway.
Zero tolerances are good idea but impractical, people ARE going to drive, people ARE going to drink and sadly people are going to attempt both at the same time. I'd say $1000.00 is fair because it's small enough not to break the bank accounts of many and large enough to make one say OUCH!
Why more folks don't make time to find non-drinking friends and ask them to designated driver for them I don't know.
 
Problem with suspended licenses is that for those who "follow the letter of the law" they'll end up without a way to work... unless they've a neighbor going that way and back home again or there is a good transit system that runs along their home and job during the hours that person works...
Sure many people still DRIVE on a suspended license anyway and HOPE they don't get caught... I did for a while until I got it cleared... (mine was suspended because didn't pay speeding ticket).
So prohibiting people from driving may cost them their job and ergo their source of income and they can't pay the fine and end up in jail anyway.
Zero tolerances are good idea but impractical, people ARE going to drive, people ARE going to drink and sadly people are going to attempt both at the same time. I'd say $1000.00 is fair because it's small enough not to break the bank accounts of many and large enough to make one say OUCH!
Why more folks don't make time to find non-drinking friends and ask them to designated driver for them I don't know.

Or did what my high school friends and I did. We would take turns being the designated driver whenever we went to parties. It worked out very well.

As an adult, it seems harder to do that as most adults would rather drive themselves to bars or parties instead of going as a group. It would save gas too, heh!
 
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