Driving fine & points between America and Europe

Liebling:-))) said:
Well, your post got me puzzled because I only bring the proof of original registration/vehicle documents when I driving.
In South Carolina, drivers must have proof of insurance before they can get car registration. They must keep that proof with them at all times driving. I have a proof of insurance card with my policy number in my wallet.

... why the cops are interesting to know about your insurance papers which it has nothing do with them because insurance belongs to private, not cops.
It is to protect the victims of accidents.

It's my problem if I dont insure my car due vehicle accident, not cops.
But it is also the problem of the other party that is damaged. Suppose you run over a pedestrian and paralyze that person? If you don't have insurance, who pays for the injured person's expenses and loss of income?

Its bad luck if I dont have insurance to cover damage cost.
Not "bad luck" buy irresponsibility.

It's up to you if you want insure your car or not BUT BUT BUT you MUST pay car tax and M.O.T. that's all.
In the U.S., insuring your own car for damages is optional, unless required by the holder of the title for a new car. But liability for damages to other cars and injuries to people is required.


I have to pay high fine around EUR 100 to EUR 250 ($125 to $300) if I dont have car tax, M.O.T., tyres control.
What is M.O.T. and tyres control?
 
Reba said:
The police can easily check the database to see if you have insurance.


No that is not true, Police has no clue who has insurance or not, that is why they have a law in Ohio to show proof of insurance, If you don't have it, the Police doesn't know rather you have insurance or not unless the datebase shows that you under suspension due for not having insurance then the police will know. The Ohio Motor Vehicle area are the only one that know what type of insurance coverage that driver has, not the police.
 
Cheri said:
No that is not true, Police has no clue who has insurance or not, that is why they have a law in Ohio to show proof of insurance, If you don't have it, the Police doesn't know rather you have insurance or not unless the datebase shows that you under suspension due for not having insurance then the police will know. The Ohio Motor Vehicle area are the only one that know what type of insurance coverage that driver has, not the police.
Wow, that shocks me! South Carolina can easily check insurance proof. I thought SC was usually behind the times for everything.

But even without the data base, how can drivers just lie and say, "Yes, I have insurance" if they can't show proof? Doesn't the cop say, "Show me your proof"?
 
Reba said:
Wow, that shocks me! South Carolina can easily check insurance proof. I thought SC was usually behind the times for everything.

But even without the data base, how can drivers just lie and say, "Yes, I have insurance" if they can't show proof? Doesn't the cop say, "Show me your proof"?


If a person lied, and said my insurance papers are at home, the police cannot do anything because the database did not say that person is suspension for not having insurance, so the police will have to let them go with a warning, to carry insurance next time. But if they are involved with an accident and lied about having insurance there an another tricky way to find out, They have to file a report on the accident doesn't matter if at fault or not with the Ohio Motor Vehicle and if they found out you don't have insurance, they suspend you right away with a 90 days no driving and 1,000.00 fine. And also they make you carry a SR22 Form the Police will know about it, because it will say on the database, that is require by law to carry it not matter what, And that last up to 5 years and if you missed one payment of insurance and they cancelled you, you will auto be suspended for 90 days again.
 
10. Is it true that the new law requires all owners to maintain proof of automobile liability insurance or financial responsibility in their vehicles at all times?

Yes. The new South Carolina auto insurance law requires all South Carolina owners to have verification inside their registered vehicles to prove that the vehicles comply with the minimum automobile liability insurance or financial responsibility requirements of this State.

The purpose of this provision of the new South Carolina auto insurance law is to reduce the number of uninsured drivers on our State's roads.
 
Reba said:
What is M.O.T. and tyres control?


MOT is the UK's "Ministry of Transportation". Cars sold in the UK are required to be thoroughly inspected by the MOT when they hit 3 years old. Then these cars must be inspected every year thereafter. For Liebling, since she lives out in Germany, the TUV is just the same as the MOT.

Europe is very particularly strict about maintenance and inspection of cars registered and driven throughout the countries. Cars with enough rust are not allowed on the road until it is repaired.

Visit this site (not a Govt site) for information on UK's MOT system :

http://www.ukmot.com
 
sablescort said:
MOT is the UK's "Ministry of Transportation". Cars sold in the UK are required to be thoroughly inspected by the MOT when they hit 3 years old. Then these cars must be inspected every year thereafter. For Liebling, since she lives out in Germany, the TUV is just the same as the MOT.

Europe is very particularly strict about maintenance and inspection of cars registered and driven throughout the countries. Cars with enough rust are not allowed on the road until it is repaired.

Visit this site (not a Govt site) for information on UK's MOT system :

http://www.ukmot.com

Thanks for clarify Reba over M.O.T.

Yes, it's British language M.O.T. and TUV is German language. I thought American have the same as British over "MOT", that's why I add my post "MOT" instead of "TUV".

Accord German law: Every 2 years TUV
Accord British law: Every year MOT (I know from my British friends which the law was changed at few years ago).

I will pay heavy fine if police found out that I dont let TUV to control my car thru date of TUV label on back of driving plate.
 
Reba said:
In South Carolina, drivers must have proof of insurance before they can get car registration. They must keep that proof with them at all times driving. I have a proof of insurance card with my policy number in my wallet.

Sure, we add insurance address and phone number in our car to make sure either the accident comes. The cops are not interest to check my insurance paper but registration/vehicle papers.


It is to protect the victims of accidents.
See above over insurance address & phone number.

But it is also the problem of the other party that is damaged. Suppose you run over a pedestrian and paralyze that person? If you don't have insurance, who pays for the injured person's expenses and loss of income?


Not "bad luck" buy irresponsibility.

Alot of Germans use insurance for their safety. It is very bad if they dont have insurance to cover injured person and damage car. They will put in the jail for this... Depend to court's decision. 99% Germans insured the car for their safety, that's why we dont have law like America.


In the U.S., insuring your own car for damages is optional, unless required by the holder of the title for a new car. But liability for damages to other cars and injuries to people is required.

See above. Every countries law are different


What is M.O.T. and tyres control?

See sablescort's post.

Sorry to confuse you with British language. I forget about America language.

British langagues:
Tyres

USA language:
Tire


German is very strict about tire. Our car tire need to control either we can drive or not. If not, then buy new one. I will pay the fine if I doesnt go to garage for tire controller.
 
wow very interest post here ... I like these informations .... Don't the country require the emission test ??? in Colorado law , the less 5 years old of car doesn't require go to emission then over 5 years old require go to emission test in every two years ...

Let me tell u the funny story (cheat) i do have the problem with my car u know the orange light for service maintance warning means somewhere in ur car need to be attention to be repair.. U know that emission tester see that orange light and wouldn't run test it until u have to come back with the proof for repair it otherwise u can't get the tag sticker without pass the test ... so I was kinda of struck and figure out what to do about it since i have the orange light so i have an idea what to do ... so i look for emission test location and found one then i drove one block away and i have to take the plug off away from the batteries and wait for five min or less then out the plug on then drove back to emission test as i kept cross my finger that orange light wouldn't show up during the test runner .. as i watch how they work ... finally they pass the test then i drove out then about one or two block away the orange light come up .. i say thanks thanks thanks as i smack kiss on the steering drive lol ...

i know some states doesn't require the emission test that really surprise me as far as i know Minnesota and Neb doesn't require the emission test so what other states???

how about another country ???? it got me so curious ...

oh by the way, the emission test cost me 25 bucks plus tag sticker cost me almost 30 bucks ... i am sure that it is varies cost on each ages of the car for tag sticker or maybe i am wrong ...
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Sorry to confuse you with British language. I forget about America language.

British langagues:
Tyres

USA language:
Tire

German is very strict about tire. Our car tire need to control either we can drive or not. If not, then buy new one. I will pay the fine if I doesnt go to garage for tire controller.

He, he. :) I knew what "tyre" meant; I just didn't know about tire "control". We don't have that in my state. We also don't have inspections of cars. We used to have annual safety inspections, but the state got rid of that a few years ago.
 
knightwolf68 said:
i know some states doesn't require the emission test that really surprise me as far as i know Minnesota and Neb doesn't require the emission test so what other states???
South Carolina does not require emissions test.

They quit doing the safety inspections because people complained that there was too much cheating and fraud involved.
 
Reba said:
South Carolina does not require emissions test.

They quit doing the safety inspections because people complained that there was too much cheating and fraud involved.


You are so lucky blessed !
I cannot stand these emission/safety inspections.
Most of them were just rip-offs
implying that I need these new parts etc. Sigh.
 
Updated

Updated: speed penalty fine and points - I got an official email today... :shock:

I posted link over "German Driving" at AllDeaf.com - View Single Post - Supreme Court to consider D.C. Handgun Ban thread yesterday is the price of speed fine and point is old... I got an official email over new price today... I pasted what email written.


Subject: New Polize Traffic Fine List

On the front page of the German newspaper there was an article about the new traffic fine law that has been passed and put into effect. The Bundesrepublic Deutschland is making traffic violations even more expensive, and in some cases the fines are higher than in the neighboring countries. Germany has been for some years on the low end as to the height of their fines, and are now moving towards the EU standards, which are generally much higher.

Please mind the traffic laws. Being from out of state, or out of country has absolutely no bearing as to following the traffic laws. You are expected to know them, because to drive here, and you passed the Driver tests. Watch out……………….!

Here is a summary of some of them

Speeding

21 to 25 km/hr over – € 80/70
26 to 30 km/hr over - € 100/80
31 to 40 km/hr over - € 160/120
41 to 50 km/hr over - € 200/160
51 to 60 km/hr over - € 280/240
61 to 70 km/hr over - € 480/440
More than 70 km/hr over - € 680/600

Driving too fast for the local situation (like in rain or on snowy roads)

- € 100 DWI 1st offense
- € 500 2nd offense
- € 1000 3rd offense
- € 1500 You can also rest assured that your license will be pulled for at least 30 days too for any DWI offenses.

Driving thru a red light More than 1 second red

- € 200 And causing a dangerous situation
- € 320 And causing an accident
- € 360 Driving around a railroad crossing gate
- € 700 Not halting for pedestrians in a zebra stripe
- € 80 Tailgating

When traveling over 80km/hr - € 75/320
When traveling over 130km/hr - € 100/400

Driving on the left lane on the autobahn (no longer passing)

- € 80 Not yielding when required
- € 100 Turning or backing up on the side lane on the autobahn
- € 130 Driving on the side lane on the autobahn
- € 75 Parking on the side lane on the autobahn
- € 70 Street racing
- € 500 Driving a truck on Sunday
- € 380



Stricter than before... :shock::eek3:
 
"Driving a truck on Sunday." Does that mean a personal pickup truck, or a commercial semi-truck-trailer or what kind of truck?
 
New Zealand Road laws
Drink-driving
Drink-driving is considered a serious offence and carries tough penalties, especially for repeat offenders. Third and subsequent offenders face maximum fines of $6,000, prison terms of up to two years, and a one year minimum disqualification from driving.

If you cause injury or death while drink-driving, you can be fined up to $10,000 for driving carelessly while under the influence (no breath or blood test needed); and up to $20,000 where a breath or blood-alcohol test shows you were over the limit.

Speeding
Speeding fines increase progressively from $30 for speeds less than 10 km/h over the limit, to a maximum fine of $630 for speeds up to 50 km/h over the limit.

If your speed is more than 50 km/h over the limit you could be charged with careless, dangerous or reckless driving, and at more than 40 km/h above the speed limit you could also get a 28-day licence suspension.

Driver licence disqualification or suspension
If you've been disqualified or suspended from driving by the courts, you're not entitled to hold your driver licence and must surrender it to the court, the Police or Land Transport NZ.

If you're caught driving while disqualified, the vehicle you're driving will be seized and impounded for 28 days. It doesn't matter whether it's your car or not. Driving while disqualified or contrary to the conditions of a limited licence carries a maximum fine for a third or subsequent offence of $6,000, and the period of imprisonment is up to two years. Note that when deciding the penalty, judges may take account of aggravating factors, such as repeat offending and the degree of intoxication of drink-drivers.

Limited licences
If losing your licence is going to seriously affect you (eg, cause you to lose your job or cause a great deal of trouble for other people), you may be able to get a limited licence. A limited licence lets you drive, but only under very strict conditions. However, there are restrictions on who can get one - applications are considered on a case-by-case basis. See Factsheet 50, Driver licence disqualifications and suspensions to find out more.

You'll need to see a lawyer to apply for a limited licence. They'll get the documents ready and present them to the court when your application is heard. If your application is granted, make sure you only drive when and where you're allowed to. You must have the court order and limited licence with you when you're driving.

Getting your licence back
The process to follow to get your licence back is set out in Factsheet 50 Driver licence disqualifications and suspensions. The factsheet also gives more detail about limited licences and other aspects of driver licence disqualification or suspension.

If you were disqualified for more than 12 months, you'll need to resit the appropriate tests to regain the licence classes you held previously.
If you only hold an overseas driver licence, you won't be allowed to drive again in New Zealand until you have a New Zealand driver licence.
If you were disqualified after convictions for repeat driving offences involving drugs or alcohol and one was a specified serious offence, you'll have to prove you've dealt with your drug or alcohol problem before you can get your licence back.
Suspension of your licence at the roadside
If you're caught committing a serious driving offence that puts the lives of other road users at risk, the Police can suspend your licence, on the spot, for 28 days.

This is called roadside licence suspension, but it can happen anywhere:

At the side of the road if you're pulled over for speeding at more than 40 km/h above the permanent speed limit (does not apply to speed camera offences).
Wherever you are if a breath test you have provided shows you have more than 650 micrograms of alcohol per litre of breath, or a blood sample shows you had more than 130 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood when you were tested. If you have been convicted of specified breath or blood alcohol offences in the past four years, being anywhere over the limit is enough for your licence to be suspended.
Wherever you are if you have failed or refused to take a blood test for excess blood alcohol, or refused to supply a blood sample.
For more details, read Factsheet 62 Suspension of your licence at the roadside.

Impoundment of your vehicle at the roadside
Your vehicle will be impounded if you're caught driving when:

you've been disqualified from holding or obtaining a driver licence
your driver licence has been suspended or revoked
you don't hold (or have never held) a licence, or your licence has expired, and you have been forbidden to drive by a Police officer until you have obtained or renewed your driver licence
you've been caught driving in an unauthorised race or other 'boy racer' activities.
If a vehicle you're driving is impounded, the Police will call for a tow truck to take it to a storage facility. At the end of the 28-day impoundment period, you'll have to pay the towing and storage fees before you can get the vehicle back.

To find out more, read Factsheet 63 Impoundment of your vehicle at the roadside.

General driving offences
Maximum fines for general driving offences range from $2,000 for driving an unsafe vehicle, to up to $20,000 for reckless or dangerous driving causing injury or death to another person, or for failing to stop after a crash where someone is killed.

Not wearing a safety belt carries a maximum infringement fee of $150.
 
wow MsGiglz, thank you for add your interesting post.

your country: Seat Belt Violations for adult and child cost you between $150.00 and $250.00 is toooo much but I'm agree that it's worth to be SAFETY. They should learn to wear belt.

Here is mine... around $ 40.00 to $65.00

In IL, fail to wear seat belt is $25 at maximum for first offense, $50 for fail to use child resistant seat if child require to use due weight or age.
 
In SC, adult seatbelt violation is $20.

Child safety laws:
1. Children under 6 years of age must be restrained in the rear seat of a vehicle in an appropriate child restraint.

2. Children, birth to one year of age, weighing less than 20 lbs., must be properly secured in a rear-facing child restraint.

3. Children at least 1 but less than 6 years of age weighing at least 20 lbs., but less than 40 lbs., must be secured in a forward-facing child restraint.

4. Children at least of 1 but less than 6 years of age, weighing at least 40 lbs., but less than 80 lbs., must be secured in a belt positioning booster seat with a lap and shoulder belt.

5. Children at least 1, but less than 6 years of age, weighing more than 80 lbs. may be secured by a safety belt.

6. If a child less than 6 years of age can sit with his back against the vehicle seat back cushion with his knees bent over the vehicle's seat edge without slouching, the child may be seated in the regular back seat and secured by a safety belt.

7. A person found to have violated this provision may be fined no more than $50. No court costs may be assessed for a violation of this provision. No points may be assigned to a driver's license for a violation of the child restraint laws. The violation does not appear on the driver's record.
South Carolina Driving Law, Seatbelt law, Safety Laws
 
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