Dorner's Manifesto (Creepy)

Joe Jones Manifesto: Ex-LAPD Cop Sympathizes With Chris Dorner | Breaking News for Black America
Joe Jones, an ex-LAPD cop, published a manifesto last night criticizing Chris Dornor‘s tactics but expressing some degree of sympathy for the presumed dead ex-cop, LA Weekly reports.

Jones was a patrol officer in the Wilshire, West Valley and West Los Angeles divisions of the LAPD for nine years. He retired in 1998 and has an event planning company in the L.A. area. He told the Weekly that he denounces Dorner’s use of violence but said “I understand why he snapped.”

“Police work was it for him and that’s what he wanted to do for the rest of his life,” Jones said. “And to come up with the reality that he’s supposed to do the right thing and if he does do the right thing he should be vindicated. He felt he did the right thing and you know the repercussions came.”

He added that it is not uncommon for young, Black cops to complain about White superior officers and run into road blocks that prevent them from seeking any real justice. “I went through all of that,” Jones told us. “It hurts a hell of a lot.”

When asked if he was surprised by the sympathy Black people in L.A. were extending to Dorner, he laughed.

“Of course they’re going to see it different,” he said. “They’ve been victims of these same things. The average caucasian person hasn’t been privy to being harassed, stopped and talked down to, treated bad by officers. They haven’t experienced that. They feel only criminals get treated disrespectfully. But the reality is that police are human and some come there with certain issues.”

Though Jones’ greatest sympathy is not for Dorner; it is for the victims he allegedly killed. “I don’t understand him killing people,” he said. “I don’t understand a police officer that’s dead.”

Joe Jones' Manifesto
By Former LAPD Officer Joe Jones MANIFESTO…
I know most of you who personally who me are in disbelief of the partial story I will tell today. A story that has been suppressed for about 18 years, But lives strong everyday of my life.

I without hesitation would like to send my condolences to the Victims who were lost and their families during this tragic situation. I would also like to send my condolences and well wishes to the many former and current Officers, as well as Citizen’s and their families who lost the lives and souls of loved one’s to the injustices of Police Corruption, Scandal, Lies, Deception and Brutality.

Unlike Former Officer Dorner, I fear dying; But I also fear living in a society where Innocent people are dying for no reason. A society where pain so great can be afflicted to people who have to desire to live right and treat people right and then be punished for doing right.

They say we all look alike. In very few cases this of course is true. But in most cases it is not. I feel a resemblance to Dorner, (See Photos) However several people who have no resemblance to Dorner have been shot due to the fear of what is taking place. I DO NOT WANT TO BE SHOT FOR CRIMES I DID NOT COMMIT!.

Neither does anyone else.

To preface my story I will say this: Just like former Officer Christopher Dorner I used to smile a lot. I loved everyone. I was voted Friendliest Senior of my Sr. Class in High School. I always believed in the system and never got into any trouble. I loved hard and gave to all I could. After Joining the LAPD in 1989 I quickly found out that the world and society had major flaws. I had flaws as well for ever believing that our system of government was obligated to do the right thing. his is what I believed as a young Officer. Without going into major detail, I need you to first assume that I would not surface 16 years later with lies about a situation that has me with PTSD to this very day. The pain forces me to speak as I have yet to shake the Ill’s of my experience as an LAPD Officer. Of course I have moved on physically. But mentally and emotionally I still live with flaws.

I can’t go into re-living the emotions of what I went through so I will say this. I had my home viciously attacked by a gunman with my family and myself inside the house. No arrests were made and my family and I Received very little support. I had my Civil Rights violated on several occasions. I was falsely arrested at gunpoint by the Sheriffs as an Officer who ID’d himself and was conspired against by both LAPD and the Sheriffs when my Civil case went to Trial. I was falsely accused on more than one occasion and simply placed in a position that the trust was so compromised that I could no longer wear the Uniform. Also know there were many more episodes. All of these issues are well documented and I present them not to be a Whistle blower, However to hope that one would not assume that all of what is being said is Lies as presented by Dorner. I don’t know him, But I know me. I will say from my experience, If a person knows they were wrong it is easier to move on without anger. Seems that Dorner obviously could not move on… Could I just be content and move on with my life and not say anything? Yes…Then I would feel that I for once had my chance to speak on something that hurts me to this day and I did nothing to arouse thought or provoke reform.

This is what I hope comes from this whole situation:
1. Families that lost someone to this tragedy find the peace that only God can give at this terrible time.

2. Citizens of Los Angeles be mindful of this fearful time to be an Officer and comply vigorously so that you are not the victim of an Officer on high alert.

3. Government and Politicians please be diligent in the responsibility of creating Laws that protect those who could be the victim of a conspiracy. Never allow the door to be shut on the Truth.

4. Honest and Fair LAPD & All Agencies: Keep doing what you are doing to protect citizens and be safe while you are doing so. We need you and I would hope that you do not allow the Bureaucratic drama and Stress to kill your morale as I know it can.

5. Unethical LAPD & all Agencies: Whatever is was that lead you down this path, Pray to somebody’s God to forgive you and begin to remove unethical methods to your policing style. Always think what if it were you, How would you feel?..How would you like if you were falsely accused and your life, lively- hood and career was taken from you? How would you like if someone was beating on you just because they felt they could get away with it? You are no better the criminals you took and oath to arrest when you do what you do!

6. Chistopher Dorner. The 1st thing I would say to him is, I feel your pains!…But you are going about this the wrong way. To take innocent lives could never be the answer to anything. I say this as a Man who experienced the same pain, betrayal, anger, suffering, litigation and agony that you did in many ways, Only I didn’t get Fired. I just choose to go a different route. My heart still suffered that same shock, I was still left to try and put the pieces back together. The disbelief that people could conspire and cause you to loose something you loved so dearly was still there. I lost my Career, I lost my Family, I lost my Dignity, I lost my Trust…But I am here now to hopefully one day see change…Bro, Don’t kill anymore Innocent people. Your point has been made. Clearly. They know you mean business, The whole world knows. Refrain from any further wrong doing and do what you must to salvage your Soul. Whatever that means to you. Just remember that God is a forgiving God.

In conclusion I say to people who knew none of this about me that one day I will have to reflect on when was the time to speak. When I see the potential for innocent lives to be lost…The time is Now!…JJ
 
Oh, boy, he claimed that his partner kicked the hobo but the hotel doorman who saw everything said that she didn't. Which one lied?

so you believe a hotel doorman over a sworn police officer wanting to do a right thing?

does it ever occur to you that maybe that hotel doorman was intimidated by other officer to lie?
 
so you believe a hotel doorman over a sworn police officer wanting to do a right thing?

does it ever occur to you that maybe that hotel doorman was intimidated by other officer to lie?

Probably for bribe reason? dunno how corrupt it is in California over there...
 
so you believe a hotel doorman over a sworn police officer wanting to do a right thing?

does it ever occur to you that maybe that hotel doorman was intimidated by other officer to lie?
No because there is no proof.
 
Of course I know what cops would do. Arrest him as long as he is unarmed. If he fired at them when he got out, what did you expect the cops would do? Surrender means give up (not firing at cops). What's more, there were video by helicopter news everywhere so the cops would do the right thing by the book.

They sent the news helicopters away.....restricted the airspace.
 
so you're saying a sworn police officer was a liar?
My answer was for your second question. There was an investigation regarding the claim by Dorner and it was found false. Still bullshit to you?
 
My answer was for your second question. There was an investigation regarding the claim by Dorner and it was found false. Still bullshit to you?

yes.

now there's another investigation into this matter.
 
My answer was for your second question. There was an investigation regarding the claim by Dorner and it was found false. Still bullshit to you?

I think you are half-deaftears for some reason. Sorry, just syaing.
 
Christopher Dorner carjack victim: 'I saw compassion inside of him' - LA Daily News
BARTON FLATS - He saw compassion in the eyes of a killer.

Rick Heltebrake escaped with his life Tuesday before Christopher Dorner was killed in a gun battle near Barton Flats that saw a high-profile manhunt come to a fiery end.

Dorner carjacked the 61-year-old Angelus Oaks resident's white 2008 Dodge Ram truck in an effort to evade police, but not before giving Heltebrake a moment to take his dog.

"I felt I saw a compassion inside of him," Heltebrake said. "He was concerned about my dog, it appeared. I'm not justifying anything else. That was one side of him I did see."

Heltebrake on Friday morning visited the ashes and rubble of the cabin where Dorner was killed.

He reflected on the confrontation with the camouflage-wearing gunman.

Heltebrake, a ranger at nearby Camp Tahquitz, was on Glass Road heading toward Highway 38 on Tuesday when he saw something out of the corner of his eye, coming out of the trees.

"It was clearly Christopher Dorner coming at me with a gun pointed at me" he said. "I could see a vehicle crashed in the snow behind him."

Heltebrake put his truck in park and put his hands up.

Dorner calmly instructed the driver what to do next. Heltebrake said it felt more like a business transaction than a carjacking.

"I don't wanna hurt you - just get out and start walking up the road and take your dog," Dorner told him.

Heltebrake grabbed his 3-year-old Dalmatian, Suni, and left.

Though the fate of the $1.2 million reward offered by Los Angeles and several donors for Dorner's capture remains unknown, Heltebrake said he thinks he deserves a portion of it because his phone call led to the end of the manhunt.

He says the couple held hostage by Dorner in Big Bear Lake should also receive a cut.

"If they were to back out of this reward and not pay it out to deserving people and claim a technicality in the language, or something like that, maybe there was some justification to some of the complaints Dorner was making," Heltebrake said.

But Heltebrake said he doesn't justify Dorner's actions.

"He said he wanted to get killed by cops," Heltebrake said.
 
Really? He would have his dream fulfilled if he got out of the house that was on fire and pointed his gun(s) at cops. But it didn't happen. He committed suicide. Oh well, his dream didn't come true unfortunately.

I think the fire and tear gas prevented him from getting out.
 
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