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dereksbicycles

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Last night, a pretty woman in her early 20s came to buy a fan from me. She came around 8:30 pm. She came ALONE and bought the fans. She was very happy. I was very happy to make the sale. What concerns me is that a woman should not be going alone at 8:30 pm especially on Saturday night. I know that my ex girlfriend would never do something like that. If I had a girlfriend and she did something like that, then I would make sure that I do it instead of her.

One day, she may get in trouble one day if she went alone at 8:30 pm to buy something online in person. Not many people are nice like I am.

I would have been happy to meet on Sunday during day or even meet at gas station or something public.
 
if I plan to buy someone who is stranger, at any time, at their place. I rather not go alone, but bring my friends. If I buy someone at the tim hortin coffee shop, then I can go on my own. Yes. but most of times, I ll bring someone who is experienced with stuff that they can take a look, and tell me if the stuff is really good not.
 
A woman should go wherever she wants, whenever she wants, however she wants. Saying "a woman should not be going alone at 8:30 pm especially on Saturday night" makes me furious beyond words.

Yes, there are dangers out there. But if that danger is translated into restrictions on where women should go and how they should go there, then danger is being traded for a virtual prison, which also sucks bigtime.

There are ways women can take precautions without resorting to needing an escort everywhere they go. They can take martial arts or other self defense classes. They can get in the habit of being very aware of their surroundings. They can carry pepper spray, make sure they're ready to use it, that they know how to use it, and that it's easy to grab from wherever they keep it. They can avoid presenting themselves as female online when they make arrangements to meet someone from Craislist to make a purchase.

But to say that women shouldn't go out alone, that's an ugly thing to do to the female population. It can be difficult for some people to make arrangements to find another person to accompany them every time they go out. And some women may not *want* another person around. Everyone has a different personality, and some are much happier alone. We deserve to make our own decisions about how to live. We weigh the risks ourselves and we have the right to decide what to do.

I would not tell you that you shouldn't go out alone because you are deaf. "what if someone snuck up behind you? you can't hear him so you are vulnerable!" Maybe true, but it is your right to decide what you want to do. And if someone had this attitude, that would be kind of creepy and patronizing. So don't do it to women.
 
dereksbicycles said:
Last night, a pretty woman in her early 20s came to buy a fan from me. She came around 8:30 pm. She came ALONE and bought the fans. She was very happy. I was very happy to make the sale. What concerns me is that a woman should not be going alone at 8:30 pm especially on Saturday night. I know that my ex girlfriend would never do something like that. If I had a girlfriend and she did something like that, then I would make sure that I do it instead of her.

One day, she may get in trouble one day if she went alone at 8:30 pm to buy something online in person. Not many people are nice like I am.

I would have been happy to meet on Sunday during day or even meet at gas station or something public.
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I understand your concern and I will admit that I am not comfortable being out alone after dark and I probably would not go meet a total stranger at night like the woman you mentioned. BUT, I do agree with amylynne. Especially as a small woman who would be quite easy for a man to overpower, I am very careful where I go and with whom, I am always paying attention to my surroundings, lock the car doors as soon as I get in, most of the time carry my pepper spray in my hand or at least within easy reach when walking through a parking lot or down the road and I know some basic self-defense. Also planning to get a concealed carry as soon as I can afford it. But I can't put my life on hold and never go out because I'm afraid someone will get me and I rarely have a man to take with me. Dragging a teenage brother along everywhere I go...not happening. :)
 
There's no reason a lady can not live her life and run her errands without being subject to your perverted thinking, only those perverts thinking the way you are are an issue the rest of the world are normal people and i am sure she uses common sense when approaching a situation
 
I drove ex-boyfriends crazy by doing that, but usually I went to areas I am familiar with. That may have been the case with her, even she may have had self-defense training to be confident about about being at risky locations alone. But we want to do things without having constraints on our minds, that won't deter us. Everyone takes risks by being somewhere, not just young women.
 
Chicago is a really high crime area, so it's a good point not to be meeting a stranger alone at night there.
 
Good points amylynne, what if the attacker has a gun? It won't matter if you can benchpress 500 pounds and are 8 feet tall. A bullet is the ultimately equalizer.

I am a 6'1" guy and even I avoid sketchy areas. This is pretty much common sense for EVERYONE not just for poor defenseless women. If you don't need to be a some high-crime area then, well, don't go there!
 
A Nihilist said:
Good points amylynne, what if the attacker has a gun? It won't matter if you can benchpress 500 pounds and are 8 feet tall. A bullet is the ultimately equalizer.

I am a 6'1" guy and even I avoid sketchy areas. This is pretty much common sense for EVERYONE not just for poor defenseless women. If you don't need to be a some high-crime area then, well, don't go there!
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I'm 6'0 and avoid the bad area too.

I had robbed in DC few times. If you have go to bad area - don't carry wallet and valuable stuff. The robber will piss off after they can't find any valuable - who cares.
 
I think it depends on several factors. I understand your concerns but some women, you would least expect to be downright dangerous. Never know if she has ability to kill you. So, really the risk is everywhere and you never know til it happens to you.
 
diehardbiker said:
I think it depends on several factors. I understand your concerns but some women, you would least expect to be downright dangerous. Never know if she has ability to kill you. So, really the risk is everywhere and you never know til it happens to you.
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What about 2A as solution?
 
diehardbiker said:
nev'r know if shes exercising 2A :hmm:
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Ok, I have question.

If you are armed with handgun (concealed) and walk in bad neighborhood. You couldn't hear if anyone follow you. What will you do if robber points the gun at you (just surprise you) and try to take valuable stuff?

For me, I'm scared if it is too late to draw the gun because I could get shot by robber when I try to draw the gun out.
 
A persons concern is usually proportional to the area visited.
Maybe his neighborhood is not overly safe, thus his concern.
Maybe she has a friend close by.
I do believe a person should not be cracked on when expressing concern for anothers safety.
Difference is what America is made of.
Tim
 
Everlucent said:
There's no reason a lady can not live her life and run her errands without being subject to your perverted thinking, only those perverts thinking the way you are are an issue the rest of the world are normal people and i am sure she uses common sense when approaching a situation
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what's so perverted of Derek's thinking ?? that's assuming too much, get real he was concerned for real, which is why he posted it in the beginning. Get real!
 
It's no different for a woman to go out alone than a man to go out alone, we're no different! I will give any amount of money saying if someone came up to start crap with me and I was alone, they'd be sorry! I'm capable of defending myself just as well as a man is... This comes off worded very poorly but I understand where it would come off as sexist to most women. Luckily I'm not easily offended. Like everyone said, could have been packing. I know I carry a gun on me... have fun messing with me ANYWHERE! HA! However, I don't think you're thinking perverted at all, I think that's way too extreme, I understand your concern, but again... women are capable of doing anything and everything a man can do... Except have a penis... kk? =P

Do I have to remind you guys we bleed for a week and don't die!?!? BRING ON THE WORLD!!! =P lmao!
 
dereksbicycles said:
Last night, a pretty woman in her early 20s came to buy a fan from me. She came around 8:30 pm. She came ALONE and bought the fans. She was very happy. I was very happy to make the sale. What concerns me is that a woman should not be going alone at 8:30 pm especially on Saturday night. I know that my ex girlfriend would never do something like that. If I had a girlfriend and she did something like that, then I would make sure that I do it instead of her.

One day, she may get in trouble one day if she went alone at 8:30 pm to buy something online in person. Not many people are nice like I am.

I would have been happy to meet on Sunday during day or even meet at gas station or something public.
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At Evanston? Correct? It's was not bad area and I went there few times and it was nice area and outdated build. :giggle:

Bottesini said:
Chicago is a really high crime area, so it's a good point not to be meeting a stranger alone at night there.
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That's south of Chicago area only. North Chicago area are more clean and low crime.
 
The Highlander said:
At Evanston? Correct? It's was not bad area and I went there few times and it was nice area and outdated build. :giggle:



That's south of Chicago area only. North Chicago area are more clean and low crime.
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It was in Mundelein area. That area is pretty safe. That is not far from Six Flags. A lot of areas by Six Flags are not safe, but Mundelein where my parents live is pretty safe.
 
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