Dont get drunk in India...well not in the streets...

Still don't know why when someone posts about something, an Individual has to take it as a personal attack?
Cool post Grummer, I have seen pythons get loose and eat children in their sleep and horrified parents find out the next morning... sad. But if I was to say nasty Americans.... whats gonna happen? Nothing, cause we don't care...lol
 
Still don't know why when someone posts about something, an Individual has to take it as a personal attack?
Cool post Grummer, I have seen pythons get loose and eat children in their sleep and horrified parents find out the next morning... sad. But if I was to say nasty Americans.... whats gonna happen? Nothing, cause we don't care...lol

I feel ya..... People get so offended these days so easily! :doh: Exactly! How many people post things like "Nasty Americans" all the time?! :laugh2:

Grummer, your sandwich looks delicious... I love your sandwich picture. <3 :D
 
I feel ya..... People get so offended these days so easily! :doh: Exactly! How many people post things like "Nasty Americans" all the time?! :laugh2:

Grummer, your sandwich looks delicious... I love your sandwich picture. <3 :D

The difference is that "American" isn't a race.

That does not make "nasty American" any less offensive.
 
No, it's not a race... However, people treat it like it's one. I personally am a first generation American, however my ethnicity is Romanian. I hear all sorts of crap talking when people find out or hear me speaking to my family in Romanian. My roommate is Greek and I can't tell you how many things people say about that! Do my roommate or I go getting upset all the time? No. Another thing you need to understand is that Grummer is Deaf. ( This does not mean he is not intelligent of course Grummer is a smart cookie. ) However, you have to be able to read into wording. I didn't take he was saying all Indian people, he was more closely referring to any people that watched this happen or may have been in the area. After all, he was passed out at a store front I believe in the day time, so SOMEONE saw it... Someone had to have seen something... Seriously, and nobody did anything? He wasn't being racist against all Indians, he was more directly stating the people who may have seen this are nasty or terrible people. That's how I took it anyway. I sincerely doubt he was being intentionally hurtful with his wording. If he was, he would have snapped back with more racially direct comments instead of what he did. As far as stop light, I didn't know if they had stop lights! I have never been to India. In Romania, stop lights are not NEARLY as common as they are here in America. People who have never been to Romania may not know that, I don't take offense to them not knowing. I simply educate them on the topic and move on. I don't blow up or over-react to a few misplaced words. Maybe it would have been better to have simply asked if he was intentionally directing his comments towards a particular race in general instead of blowing up and assuming things yourself. Never assume anything, it is hard to tell what people mean online anyway as we lack the ability to see facial expressions and for those who can hear aided or regular, the ability to hear sarcasm. A calm cool-headed approach to any potential confrontations will get you much further in life rather than assuming what another says or how they meant it. If I would have seen a racial comment I would have spoken up myself. I do not support racism in any way shape or form against ANY race, we're all the same. I would have said something and I'm sure a few others would have too if they had really thought or taken it as racist. That's just my take on it personally...
 
'Python Eats Drunk Guy in India' Story Is a Hoax

Hoax apparently.

My Grandfather was Indian and despite being a complete alcoholic for most of his life ( RAF Warrant Officer during WWII until the 70's and Salesman, Story-Teller and Gambler for the remainder ) would not have batted an eyelid at seeing a Python of that size.
Knowing the old rascal he would have shot it, cooked it and eaten it :)
 
I didn't take he was saying all Indian people, he was more closely referring to any people that watched this happen or may have been in the area.

Thank you for your comment.

His posts:

this is quite horrifying and more horrifying is the Indian people are so fcuked up to let it happen, they don't care....nasty people!!!

there's no traffic lights in India (hope im right, lemme check google, _ returned n.b. sorry I'm still not sure! unclear - probably a high portion don't have lights)

In the first quote above, the word 'the' is significant. For example, "some Romanians" and "the Romanians" imply two different population sizes. That, followed by "fcuked up ... nasty people" is offensive (to me). While some Indians are indeed "fcuked up" and "nasty," there are always good people amidst the set, which makes "the Indian people" an overgeneralization. In the second quote, his nebulosity is an excuse for another generalization. Claiming something to be true without knowing the reality behind it is considered an offense, even here in the U.S. If I make a "probable claim" (about a population of people or some scientific work etc.), I should be able to back up that claim with reasonable logic. If I cannot, I have a high probability of offending some individuals within the population in question. The statement "there's no traffic lights in India" paints a picture of some backward civilization, and while some aspects of that country need improvement (e.g. the caste system), it is certainly not so backward to lack traffic signals.

Secondly, my original statement below was not an overreaction. I was simply letting him know how I feel:

You're awfully rude. Of course there are traffic lights in India! Looking at one incident and labeling the entire race as "fcuked up" and "nasty" is quite ignorant and myopic, not to mention impudent. This event is indeed barbarous, and I'm rather repulsed that no one did anything. However, you should be considerate enough to pick your choice of words carefully. Being an Indian myself, I find your demeaning rhetoric and abhorrent assumptions highly prejudiced and illiberal.

In response to that, instead of clarifying himself, he mocks my word choice by questioning the inventiveness of it. It was not until later that he apologized and corrected the overgeneralization by editing his post.


Another thing you need to understand is that Grummer is Deaf.

I have Asperger's Syndrome, and I find this discussion difficult to follow. I don't understand how the above has anything to do with our discussion. My response would have been exactly the same even if he was not Deaf.
 
relax!...in real Life, I'm very much like you, i have a slight misfiting problem to which sometimes i go lengths to explain myself , lately I have been cutting down alot and NOW people (shop keepers, neighbours, friends, etc) are worred im isolating myself from others not really I just have quieten down in view that I dont have to explain myself...it took me years to learn to deal with my own tendency to be perfect in communication or whatever, not everything is black and white...and most people are intelligent enough to know not to be bothered with it, its got nothing to do with 'class' (oftentimes snobs likes to think so), its just people don't see relevance, or point of it, or its just plan wordy, lengthy, it tires people, in a word it BORES them!!, they LIVE and know they are just plain interested in getting along...politicians don't but they're another breed..powermongers - ugly people..anyway....
that bit is weird when people thinks its normal for me, i guess they read it as 'character' interesting when you talk to old people about their social lives, and such like when they talk about 'colorful people' or colourful languages lol, it was all along that in those older time everything was there but undiagnosed or unrecognized....

but...
you're new here...bombarding in here, isn't going to make you popular...so becareful!
and well i did quipped about the 'inventiveness' of the word, why? because its UNCOMMON, not commonly used...i knew what it meant, I dont need the dictionary, in FACT, I'm an MPhil student, and here in this forum i dont give a damn about 'correct proses and such' its my time out, in here i relax and just chat as if i was chatting in person...
so ... morale is, don't dig a hole for yourself...just let it slide...and most of all try have fun...don't be too serious ...life too bloody short for that...leave the serious stuff/study at work..OK?
 
'Python Eats Drunk Guy in India' Story Is a Hoax

Hoax apparently.

My Grandfather was Indian and despite being a complete alcoholic for most of his life ( RAF Warrant Officer during WWII until the 70's and Salesman, Story-Teller and Gambler for the remainder ) would not have batted an eyelid at seeing a Python of that size.
Knowing the old rascal he would have shot it, cooked it and eaten it :)

What did I said???

I don't believe it.

Keep in mind - there are lot of hoax out there and the story can be hoax.

Like I said - if any story seems to be farfetched, then it might be hoax (unless it's proven true). That's why I never believe anything in Internet unless proven true.
 
most of all try have fun...don't be too serious ...life too bloody short for that...leave the serious stuff/study at work..OK?

Alright. You can't blame me though-- I'm 19, and the competitive nature is in me :) I'm glad that we can just move on from this.
 
Americans Is a race !!!
Idians are from India, Asians from Asia, Africans from Africa so Americans from America !
I am Cherokee Indian, or what you would say Native American, but my blood is of a mutt ( Italian, German, Cherokee and Irish ) But I don't get offended, just the way Americans are. And if that not enough, ask anyone in Iraq, Saudi, they will tell you we are Americans too....lol

Its an odd culture here for sure, if youre black and live in America youre an African American as an example, but in England you are just considered and Englishman reguardless of what race you are... because they are not rude and corrupt like the Americas as we know it.
 
Thank you for your comment.

His posts:




In the first quote above, the word 'the' is significant. For example, "some Romanians" and "the Romanians" imply two different population sizes. That, followed by "fcuked up ... nasty people" is offensive (to me). While some Indians are indeed "fcuked up" and "nasty," there are always good people amidst the set, which makes "the Indian people" an overgeneralization. In the second quote, his nebulosity is an excuse for another generalization. Claiming something to be true without knowing the reality behind it is considered an offense, even here in the U.S. If I make a "probable claim" (about a population of people or some scientific work etc.), I should be able to back up that claim with reasonable logic. If I cannot, I have a high probability of offending some individuals within the population in question. The statement "there's no traffic lights in India" paints a picture of some backward civilization, and while some aspects of that country need improvement (e.g. the caste system), it is certainly not so backward to lack traffic signals.

Secondly, my original statement below was not an overreaction. I was simply letting him know how I feel:


In response to that, instead of clarifying himself, he mocks my word choice by questioning the inventiveness of it. It was not until later that he apologized and corrected the overgeneralization by editing his post.




I have Asperger's Syndrome, and I find this discussion difficult to follow. I don't understand how the above has anything to do with our discussion. My response would have been exactly the same even if he was not Deaf.

Hey idiot, I have Asperger's also, and you really are off the mark here. Many of us despise you more for being a hearing trying to take control of this site than any think India is so backward.

Please feel free to take this personally!
 
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