do you think being born deaf is not normal? because....

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someone talked about hearing people who think being born deaf is not normal because you know maybe from incest. a friend of mine told me about cousin married cousin. that was strange. what do you think about this?.
 
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The feeling, belief, and idea of "normal" varies with each community.

In Louisiana, it was not uncommon for French-speaking or "Acadian-speaking" people to intermarry. In Pennsylvania, it was not uncommon for Amish/Mennonite people to intermarry. Within the Acadians, there is a large population of deaf-blind and "kissing cousins" are, often, blamed. Within the Amish, the problem is not overwhelming that you'd find a huge population.

Incest is a cause of deafness. It is a normal result.
 
Yes, it's normal. I don't think it's strange to have a deaf child, like considering him/her as unatural thing, because of incest. But I really do think it's very stange to have a sex with your cousin, sister, aunt, or someone is related to you in your family.
 
Yes it's normal feeling when you think something.

My schoolmate's parents both are first cousin. She is a normal child but just deaf.
 
being born deaf is not "normal" in the sense that being born with MS or autism is not normal. but then one must define "normal". i would call it the phenotype that best adapts an organism to its environment. in almost every species but homo sapiens, natural selection prevents disadvantageous traits from persisting through more than a generation or two. a deaf tiger in the wild would probably not live to reach sexual maturity and make more deaf tigers.

with humans, natural selection doesn't really apply. a child could be born blind, deaf, autistic, retarded, with no legs and 5 arms growing out of its chin and as long as none of these things were fatal to the infant and it lived long enough to reproduce, those genes could potentially be around forever. hearing is not essential for human survival, and as long as deafies continue to pair up and have deaf children, deafness will persist for as long as it can before medical technology erases all potentially harmful genes from the human race.

for now, "normal" is mostly a question of numbers. the vast majority of the population is healthy. so by default, anyone that is deaf or has webbed feet or purple skin is not normal, because he or she is in such a small minority group. however, if in 3 million years, hearing was no longer necessary and 98% of people are deaf, you'd find that deafies are the new "normal" and hearies are the "disabled".

incest is clearly not the only cause of deafness. anyone who says "s/he's deaf because his/her mom and dad were siblings" should be shot.
 
What is not normal? People born with big nose are not normal? People born with long legs are not normal? People born with small mouth are not normal? Babies born big are not normal? We came into this world with all kind of seen shapes and unseen shapes, no one can say they all are not normal. Have to be perfect hair, face, legs, etc... to be normal? Please, I do not see deaf any different from hearing.
 
1: conforming to a type, standard, or regular pattern= Deaf is not normal because most of population is hearing

2: occurring naturally=Deaf is normal because it is something that just happens.

1 and 2 are both dictionary meanings of the word "normal" so you could argue either way for deafness being normal.

If you trace my own family history, deafness would be normal by both meanings.
 
"Normal = average of all weirdness" - Me. Say whatever you want, but no one is normal. Being normal is an idealistic concept that some people appear to achieve, but none truly do. No worries... our differences make us lovable. :)
 
Who is to say what is normal? There is a reason for everything.
 
Deaf cuz of incest? Hahaha... nah!

No one is born normal. In fact, what's the real definition of "normal"?

People are born with birthmarks, unusual hair, etc. So, who's to say they're normal?
 
thanx2gezus said:
"Normal = average of all weirdness" - Me. Say whatever you want, but no one is normal. Being normal is an idealistic concept that some people appear to achieve, but none truly do. No worries... our differences make us lovable. :)
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:werd:

If everyone was to be normal, Things would have been so bland and not so interesting. We may like to think we are normal but really, to each and every own, we have our quirks.
 
Bottesini said:
2: occurring naturally=Deaf is normal because it is something that just happens.
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Sorry, but natural does not mean "just happens".
Maybe you meant to say something else...

But, anyway,

There is not a problem with the word "normal". It is a very useful word.
There IS a problem with how people keep abusing it, and applying ideas to it that just do not belong there.

Normal does not always mean "right".
And abnormal doesn't always mean there is something "wrong", either.
 
Jolie77 said:
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If everyone was to be normal, Things would have been so bland and not so interesting. We may like to think we are normal but really, to each and every own, we have our quirks.
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You want to get really deep?

EVERYONE is normal.
It is NORMAL for some people to have a condition that is NOT normal.
Having quirks... again... normal!
The sentiment you just posted, normal.

Someone being born with green skin? NOT NORMAL.
Can that person be a normal person? Yes, they absolutely can.
 
jenni-m said:
You want to get really deep?

EVERYONE is normal.
It is NORMAL for some people to have a condition that is NOT normal.
Having quirks... again... normal!
The sentiment you just posted, normal.

Someone being born with green skin? NOT NORMAL.
Can that person be a normal person? Yes, they absolutely can.
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You're right to an extent. I am only saying that we all can be normal in one way or other. To one, it may not be normal but to another, it may be normal. It goes both ways around. I'm not saying that everyone is NOT normal. It is just how it is viewed differently.
 
Just to goes to show that being normal has to be perfect in every sense of word in the hearing world. Nobody is perfect and we don't expect to be perfect anyway, as we happen to be born or became deaf by accident whether by disease or something affect the ear to cause deform. I never thought of incest can cause deafness, so that is new to me. I am learning a lot from you guys (Aders). Don't pay any attention to people saying that our deafness is not normal. We are normal just like everyone except our hearing loss or deafness. So come on and smell the coffee and get on with your life. :roll:
 
Jolie77 said:
You're right to an extent. I am only saying that we all can be normal in one way or other. To one, it may not be normal but to another, it may be normal. It goes both ways around. I'm not saying that everyone is NOT normal. It is just how it is viewed differently.
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Exactly.
So, don't fight the word, fight how it is used.
 
Bebonang said:
Just to goes to show that being normal has to be perfect in every sense of word in the hearing world. Nobody is perfect and we don't expect to be perfect anyway, as we happen to be born or became deaf by accident whether by disease or something affect the ear to cause deform. I never thought of incest can cause deafness, so that is new to me. I am learning a lot from you guys (Aders). Don't pay any attention to people saying that our deafness is not normal. We are normal just like everyone except our hearing loss or deafness. So come on and smell the coffee and get on with your life. :roll:
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That is what I meant when I said I thought our deafness was normal because it was a natural occurance.
 
jenni-m said:
Exactly.
So, don't fight the word, fight how it is used.
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Who said I was fighting the words? There's no rights and wrongs on this one. :)

You are entitled to your opinions as much as I am to mine.
 
Bottesini said:
That is what I meant when I said I thought our deafness was normal because it was a natural occurance.
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Ahh, sorry about that, Bottesini... I misunderstood, the first time.
It's not always natural. But that doesn't matter to the point you were trying to make, you had the right idea.

Sorry for getting technical, before.
 
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