Do you support abortion as

Do you support abortion as

  • a legal?

    Votes: 39 63.9%

  • an illegal?

    Votes: 22 36.1%
  • Total voters
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Liebling said:
It has nothing do with smartest decision on just adoption but abortion as well. Each person has different choice and different feeling which mean that they have no regret for their decision when they thought it´s the best after search cons/pros over early abortion and adoption... It´s their decision, not ours.
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Liebling, Of course it's their decision and they have that access rights. But, it doesn't mean I have to agree with it nor support it.
 
August said:
i don't want to hear that "BUT, LOL, HUMAN LIFE IS SACRED!" argument. most anti-abortionists are pro-war, pro-death penalty, and just look like morons when they realize the gap in their logic and try to come up with clever ways to cover it up.
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You're entitle to your opinion, but leave the personal insult out of the argument, calling us morons was uncall for. You don't even have a logic clue what we meant by what we say. :roll:
 
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if you can convince me that babies are sacred, and Muslims (or whatever the enemy of the week is) and people on death row are not, i'll be glad to hear it.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
I am here to quote each of your sentence to answer.

Sure. :)


Exactly because child doesn´t deserve it.

Yep. One problem, his or her descendant will not be here...

It look like that you think it´s easy solution for a mother? Not all true! It´s not very easy for many mothers to make decision either they can acheive to be good and loving mother to their future child or not... It took them time to think about before the decision to be make.

Of course, it's not easy. Please don't get wrong for what I said. If you visit Pro-Choice communities on LJ, you will find "im not sorry" community. :)


Yes, if she didn´t think twice either she want to keep a child or not. It does the same with adoption as well. Some mother think what they doing right to protect child from suffering in the future because child doesn´t deserve to be suffering...

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Explain -
A woman abort her first child she dont want, a several months later, she want to have a child.

- If she don't abort her first child, then second child will not be here.
- If she abort her first one, then second child will be here.

I hope thats clear.

Not always... it could be rarely... only if the doctor handle correction.

Yeah..

No, the abortion reason has nothing do with miscarriage issues because many mother suffer miscarriage when they never have abortion in their life.
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No, that's true. But, not always. I visited this three years ago, today, it's still there. But I can't find where it is, I can't remember. I will search it after I finish my work.

Gotta go now.
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KarissaMann05 said:
No, that's true. But, not always. I visited this three years ago, today, it's still there. But I can't find where it is, I can't remember. I will search it after I finish my work.

Gotta go now.
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Never mind - I find this. There you go.

With that reason, it did happen to several people I know who from my old club.


Okay, gotta go now for real.
 
Cheri said:
Pro-Life is to defend the womb, and is also to protect innocent life. If the mother's life is in danger we have to protect her because she's an innocent life, same goes for the fetus. Abortion is an act of violence to the mother and to the fetus, that's why I do not support abortion for unnecessary reasons. If I did, that would make me no better than any other criminals.
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And that is why I say that you are anti-abortion, not pro-life. You simply do not get the difference betweent he two. Pro-life is a lifestyle ethic, not something to apply to one situation and then ignore it in other situations.

Pro-life is a term adopted by those who do not support the choice of others simply because it sounds more nobel than anti-abortion, or anti-choice. But it is an incorrect application of a lifestyle and moral stance that incorporates all decisions regarding all life. Pro-life has been distorted by the anti-abortionists into something it does not mean. Why? Because saying "pro-life" takes the sting out of their self righteousness.

And I don't think the womb is in need of defense. That's like saying someone should not be allowed to drink alcohol because you beleive in defending the liver.
 
August said:
if you can convince me that babies are sacred, and Muslims (or whatever the enemy of the week is) and people on death row are not, i'll be glad to hear it.
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There you go. The contradictions are glaringly obvious. Self righteousness is in no way tatamount to a pro-life ethic.
 
August said:
i completely support abortion, and think in this terrible age of overpopulation and the rape of the natural world to satisfy mankind's voracious appetite for natural resources, more women should consider it as a form of birth control.

i don't want to hear that "BUT, LOL, HUMAN LIFE IS SACRED!" argument. most anti-abortionists are pro-war, pro-death penalty, and just look like morons when they realize the gap in their logic and try to come up with clever ways to cover it up.

i also hate the "pro-life" and "pro-choice" labels the two groups have self-applied. why the hell not just say "pro/anti-abortion"? is the word really that taboo? everyone already knows what it means, why perpetuate names that are insulting to my intelligence? i doubt most people that support the practice of abortion are mass-murdering, murder-loving sociopaths. anti-abortionists say, "we're pro-lifers, if you disagree with us, you're anti-life, that means PRO-DEATH! THEREFORE ABORTIONISTS LOVE DEATH." women don't have abortions because they get off on it and worship the devil. it's a terrible and traumatic decision brought on by very difficult circumstances.

furthermore, who the hell isn't "pro choice"? everyone likes choices. if you disagree with pro-choicers, you're anti-choice. therefore, you think everyone should live how you and only you want them to and you're a neo-fascist.

ridiculous.
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Have to agree with your take on the pro-life commentary. I would only point out one difference. A person who is pro-choice is not necessarily pro-abortion. It is entorely possible to have a personal ethic that would prevent you from ever having an abortion yourself, while at the same time supporting that it is an individual choice and you have no right to impose your personal ethics in the matter on anyone else.
 
Cheri said:
Liebling, Of course it's their decision and they have that access rights. But, it doesn't mean I have to agree with it nor support it.
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Ah, but you agree that it is their right to decide for themselves. That would make you pro-choice.
 
Cheri said:
Don't bring religious in this thread. It's against the rule of AD.



What is the name of this topic? Can't you stick with it? If you wish to talk about prisoners, go create a new thread. Respect Liebling's thread please? :ty:
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Okay, how about if the woman who is seeking an abortion is a murderer, but wants an abortion to save her life? How would you handle that one?

And, again, if Liebling wishes to reprimand someone for a post in her thread, she has the ability to do so. I really don't think she needs you to speak for her any more than a woman seeking an abortion needs you to speak for her.
 
jillio said:
And that is why I say that you are anti-abortion, not pro-life. You simply do not get the difference betweent he two. Pro-life is a lifestyle ethic, not something to apply to one situation and then ignore it in other situations.
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If I support abortion to save a life of the mother or the fetus that doesn't make me an anti-abortion. Use your common sense.
And I don't think the womb is in need of defense
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A fetus in a womb is a human life.
 
jillio said:
Ah, but you agree that it is their right to decide for themselves. That would make you pro-choice.
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Everyone has a choice of their own, each person has a free will. What does pro-choice have anything to do with it?

"Of course it's their decision and they have that access rights. But, it doesn't mean I have to agree with it nor support it."
 
Cheri said:
If I support abortion to save a life of the mother or the fetus that doesn't make me an anti-abortion. Use your common sense.

A fetus in a womb is a human life.
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No, it makes you pro-choice. If you would allow for the woman's choice in any situation, then you are pro-choice. You certainly are not pro-life as in regards to your support for the death penalty. It would appear that you support choice as long as it falls into the guideline that you yourself have set, and you support death as long as it falls into the guideline which you yourself have set. That is known as self righteous, or "as long as it coincides with what I believe then it is right and proper for all. If it doesn't coincide with what I believe, then it is wrong for all.

A fetus, or an embryo, or a blastocycst in the womb are all the potential for life. None have sustained independent existence. But no matter, a womb is not life, it is an organ. Your claim was that you defended the womb.
 
Cheri said:
Everyone has a choice of their own, each person has a free will. What does pro-choice have anything to do with it?

"Of course it's their decision and they have that access rights. But, it doesn't mean I have to agree with it nor support it."
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Do you even know what you believe? If everyone has free will and a choice to make, and you support their right to make that choice, it makes you pro-choice. That doesn't make you pro-abortion for yourself. It means that you, and every other person on this earth has the right to make that choice for themselves. Pro-choice does not mean that you would necessarily choose an abortion for yourself. It means that you understand that the choices you make for yourself cannot be forced on anyone else.
 
jillio said:
No, it makes you pro-choice. If you would allow for the woman's choice in any situation, then you are pro-choice.
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That's not what I said. :crazy:
You certainly are not pro-life as in regards to your support for the death penalty.
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Again for the third time, This thread is not about death penalty, This thread is about abortion and I refuse to lowed myself to your level of lack of respect to the creator of this thread.

On this thread is asked "Do you support abortion as legal or illegal" not "Are you pro life or pro choice"
 
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