Do you support abortion as

[KarissaMann05]

I know exactly how y0u feel, It's annoying isn't it? It's like a record being played over and over again and again.

:chuckles: yeah..

 

[Liebling:-)))]

*mmmmmhhhhh sigh*

 

[KarissaMann05]

Ah, right. Death penalty is not related to here, remember?

 

[Angel]

Yeah, sounds like they want to win an argument that might not be worth fighting for in the first place no matter who's right and who's wrong. To me, sounds like the argument got a bit too personal.

 

[Angel]

*mmmmmhhhhh sigh*

and smile.

 

[KarissaMann05]

Yeah, sounds like they want to win an argument that might not be worth fighting for in the first place no matter who's right and who's wrong. To me, sounds like the argument got a bit too personal.

so true.

 

[Jiro]

I have to agree with handful of people here like Reba, Cheri, and Karissa. People's minds are funny. They justify whatever fits to their belief - pro-life abortion but "pro-death penalty" or anti-death penalty but pro-choice abortion. (let's call death penalty as d.p.) There's no black and white side in any issue. Just because you're pro-choice doesn't mean you're pro-choice in every issues. It varies. I am pro-choice, pro-d.p., pro-gun, pro-whatever but of course with some restrictions. I support abortion as a choice on the table but should not be used too freely as a means of primary birth control. I support death penalty but I do not believe some crimes warranted it.

You should not be quick to label people based on their view. "Oh you support high tax increase. You're a Democrat. Oh you support drilling in ANWR. You must be a Republican."

 

[Liebling:-)))]

and smile.

& Welcome Back

 

[Angel]

I have to agree with handful of people here like Reba, Cheri, and Karissa. People's minds are funny. They justify whatever fits to their belief - pro-life abortion but "pro-death penalty" or anti-death penalty but pro-choice abortion. (let's call death penalty as d.p.) There's no black and white side in any issue. Just because you're pro-choice doesn't mean you're pro-choice in every issues. It varies. I am pro-choice, pro-d.p., pro-gun, pro-whatever but of course with some restrictions. I support abortion as a choice on the table but should not be used too freely as a means of primary birth control. I support death penalty but I do not believe some crimes warranted it.

You should not be quick to label people based on their view. "Oh you support high tax increase. You're a Democrat. Oh you support drilling in ANWR. You must be a Republican."

I completely agree.

 

[Wokamuka]

They justify whatever fits to their belief

I think that's Jillio's point from the start.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I do not respect women's choice nor her decision on abortion for no good reasons.

If you mean that some women use abortion as a type of birth control and sleep with men without use sex protection and abort dozen of times?... If yes, then I agree with you on this.

I never claim to even say that I do.

I only see what I said is you personally disagree nor support abortion but respect women´s choice which mean is if women decides to save their risk life over fetus or save fetus´s life over their own risk life which mean is their own DECISION, not Government tell them what to do... Get it?

Pro-lifers supports life at risk. I'm sorry, but you do not have a clue what pro-lifers supports. I'll provide as many source to show you what pro-life supports.

Yes I have read but ... If you decides to vote illegal, which mean that Government can tell women what to do with their bodies if they decides to save fetus´s life over their own risk life? The Government would force them to save their risk life over fetus... The reason I vote legal because my body is my own property, not Government. I can decide what I want with my body without Government telling me what to do. I can decide either I want to save fetus´s life over my own life or not, not Government. It call pro-choice. Get it?

Pro-life - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What is "pro-life"? Is it possible to be both pro-life and pro-choice? - ChristianAnswers.Net

What Is Prolife? - Blurtit


What is Pro-Life

Those links, you provided here sound a force to me. I would never force or tell women what to do.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

That's not the way I read it.

Just because Cheri acknowledges that women will make decisions regardless of what the law is, doesn't mean that she supports laws that allow abortion on demand. It also doesn't mean that people who have free will to make choices will make choices that follow the law of the land.

Acknowledging free will, and supporting abortion on demand laws, are not the same thing.

People have free will to make all kinds of wrong choices but that doesn't mean we support laws that allow them to make those wrong choices. People have free will to drive drunk but we don't support laws that allow them drive drunk.

The comparision you made is a fallicious because it´s an illegal for drinker to drive accord the law, not abortion. They violate the law when they know it´s an illegal. Abortion?

If there is a law for abortion as an illegal like drunk driver then you make correct comparison.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Originally Posted by Wokamuka
There's such a law?

Is this an accusation that the majority, making the laws, are a bunch of idiots?

I wasn't aware that there were any laws that allowed people to drive drunk, either.

Yes, I am wondering the same...

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Yup, it need gonna to be careful with sex, none of condom or BC are 100% effective.

Jillos´s post
We also need to remember that birth control can fail, despite best precautions.

Yeah... I repeated dozen of times... all what some ignorants said that it´s their fault for open their legs in first place, no matter either they have sex protection or not...

 

[Liebling:-)))]

That's why I have 2 kids!

It does the same with me... We plan to have second child later but surprisely second child came unexpectly...

 

[Liebling:-)))]

How can the two be the same, only concept that can make it similar is ONLY
when a mother is ABLE to choose.

Abortion is about taking a fetus' life to become nonexistence (death),
while adoption is about taking a life, raising and admonishing that life.

No, that´s not what I am talking about.

Again,

After I post the link and then quoted some of each sentence from the link, I provided to.
AllDeaf.com - View Single Post - Do you support abortion as

The link written:
If you have an abortion you will always wonder what if, and feel guilty for the rest of your life about the child you could have had.

Liebling quoted the link.
No, it´s not just abortion but adoption as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Abortion and Adoption are the same thing, when the mother decides to not take a responsible to raise a child.

What I said abortion and adoption is the same thing which mean is they would think what they look like... what kind of life they lead to... ??? killed or not????...

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I don't think it's fair to tell pro-lifers that they can't be pro-lifers for some same reasons, even I have so much different opinion than common pro-lifers. I believe in a pro-nature & pro-life instead of just anti-abortion while other pro-lifers have a different opinion and belief. Like I said it before, not everyone fits their stereotypes of pro-life.

This is a debate thread. We are allow to entitle our view what we think in respectfully way. It´s not disrespectful and insult when we see our view differently as you and others.

I would not get offend if they beleives differently because I need to open my mind to see either they are right or not. I focus to myself until I saw what they said is right or not... The debate forums are good education for us to learn something new everyday... You know that we learn something new everyday, it does never stop.

I would say the same thing to you as well, jiro123.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Agreed, my beliefs don't need to fit into anyone's categories. I'm not pro-choice, anti-abortion, or anti-choice etc. IMO, no one is anti-anything but
that's just how the other "side" paints them.

No, not that what you think. We are here to open our mind and learn something new... which is a good education for us.

Edit Christians disagree over many different issues. For instance some of us are for capital punishment while the others are against it.

I'm against capital punishment because all life is precious and I believe that ALL human beings deserve forgiveness even if some have committed a horrible crimes, that's just how I see it.

Yes, that´s right.

It´s not just Christians but anyone in general way. I as a non-Christian against "kill each other" because vengeance is not okay. Yes I agree that every human deserve forgiveness, no matter what...

 

[Angel]

No, not that what you think. We are here to open our mind and learn something new... which is a good education for us.

All those arguments weave back and forth about which beliefs fit in our categories is good education?


O-Kay

 

[Liebling:-)))]

All those arguments weave back and forth about which beliefs fit in our categories is good education?


O-Kay

Yes, I know. Each person have different views on this. *talk generally* It doesn´t mean that we disrespect and insult your view when we see different as you.