Do you ever feel along in this world?

if you had money what would you do with it?

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Hear Again said:
By the way, if I remember correctly, you are still living at home. Is that correct?
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yes... to keep my mom in company since we live alone here. My father's living in Korea for a while and my brother lives in London.

Hear Again said:
If so, you don't have the authority to speak about money since you do not live independently.
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Yes I did - I lived in Virginia for a few years and South Jersey for a while on my own... with my cash.

Hear Again said:
Please note that I am not criticizing you. I only mention that because until you've struggled on your own to pay bills, keep a job, pay for childcare, etc. you really do not have a full understanding of what it means to control one's money.
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oh yes I do know what it's like to struggle for it. We were financially strained and deep in debt since... probably 2000ish. It got stabilized when I got a full-time job last year. Now I'm paying for their mortgage and some expenses.

I understand that you're not criticizing me but it's kind of funny that you're telling me this when you don't have a child and never had a job (until recently if I recall correctly).
 
Hear Again said:
Please see the latter half of my post.

I find it ironic how you can say one can be rich yet not materialistic when you also say that money can buy happiness. Which is it?

Please do not tell me what it is like to be rich or materialistic. I lived on only $100/month for 4 years, so I am very well aware of what it is like to struggle.

I now live in Section 8 housing and am on a limited income, so please do not presume to tell me the value of money or what it means to be rich/materialistic.

:ty:
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OK let me explain then... it is very understandable that you negatively equate "rich" to materialism like Paris Hilton because you don't know what's it like to be rich. There are many many people who are rich but they are not materialistic - hence the phrase "Uncle Scrooge".

Yes I did have a rich life in my youth but I don't live a fancy life and I have absolutely no needs for fancy stuff. I don't need brand new Benz. I don't need $500+ watch. I don't need none of that. That's why some people scolded me for being a simplistic country boy like my dad.

I live a functional, practical life but it is absolutely a great peace of mind knowing that I have a plenty of cash in my bank account (well I'm not that rich but you know what I mean) - to be in position to financially help friends/family in need and to be able to do whatever I want such as traveling around the world to gain in-depth perspective of cultural differences and such, buying a motorcycle to participate in awareness rally, paying for private teachers to learn something, so on...

That's how money CAN bring happiness but money CANNOT buy happiness. Paris Hilton tried to buy happiness and look where it got her? a break-up with her BFF, scandalous sex video, constant depression and loneliness, and too many sad stuff to list.
 
Hear Again said:
Jiro,

Let's agree to disagree. :ty:
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then do not argue with my point if you want to agree to disagree. You either just read it and move on... or beg to differ. Pick one.

You cannot just conveniently bring up "let's agree to disagree" line anytime you want especially after you want to beg to differ. :cool2:
 
Jiro said:
then do not argue with my point if you want to agree to disagree. You either just read it and move on... or beg to differ. Pick one.

You cannot just conveniently bring up "let's agree to disagree" line anytime you want especially after you want to beg to differ. :cool2:
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Whatever Jiro. Welcome to my ignore list.
 
Moving on...

I've already been in a situation where I've had alot of money at my disposal, but it only caused me more heartache. I ended up going into serious debt due to several manic episodes (sorry for mentioning my bipolar, but this is relevant since spending sprees are a symptom of mania).

Fortunately, I paid all of it off a few months ago, but I will never use credit cards again. From now on, it's cash or debit cards.
 
Babyblue said:
Money does not buy happiness.

Love does. Having the riches of knowing that you have friends, family, and a life that you enjoy.

Each and everyone is different. I have seen some content and happy with just being by themselves or just living off the land.

depends on each individual.
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:gpost:
 
Hear Again said:
Moving on...

I've already been in a situation where I've had alot of money at my disposal, but it only caused me more heartache. I ended up going into serious debt due to several manic episodes (sorry for mentioning my bipolar, but this is relevant since spending sprees are a symptom of mania).

Fortunately, I paid all of it off a few months ago, but I will never use credit cards again. From now on, it's cash or debit cards.
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damn. that's ok. at least good thing came out of it in the end. This behavior is typical in many people with big cash. Some just plunged deeper and deeper in debt (typically gambling). Some just squandered and bit more than he can chew - like real estate burst. What matters is what came out of this mess in the end. Some people just get richer than before but wiser. Some never regained their wealth status but became very contented with their lowered status.

I've heard of a study on psychological stress among millionaires. When you're so poor, you get constant stress because there are so much that you cannot afford and you're always stressed out about whether or not you'll be able to pay for important bills such as mortgage next month. When you're so rich... you're constantly stressed out because you frequently feel depressed and unsatisfied because you can afford anything in the world but you don't know what to do as they feel a big empty hole in their life. That's why they became alcoholic/drug addicts.

A good balance between it? middle-class. I don't mind being a "thousandaires" with a nice 6-figures salary.
 
I can agree with Jiro to a point...yes, I am happy with my family and feel content but since our financial troubles this year, it is putting a strain on us as a family. For the first time in my life, I have to be late for my bills on purpose cuz I cant afford them and it is causing me some anxiety. Right now, I am between a rock and a hard place about quitting my job to find a better paying job. There are so much we want to do with this house but we cant cuz of other stupid bills and now the lawyer bill just got added. It is not a fun way to live, honestly. I am not looking to be a millionare but would like to live comfortablly where I can be able to save money instead of making the decision each week on which bills I should be late on and etc. It is really stressful but no, I dont feel lonely.

All I just tell myself..the worse thing that can happen is for us is our excellent credit to become not so excellent. My hubby just got a 2nd job on the weekends and soon I will work at my 2nd job over the summer so that should help and then my SUV will be paid off next year and I am NOT buying a new car..will use the money to pay off bills. Once everything gets better, then we would be more happy.
 
shel90 said:
I can agree with Jiro to a point...yes, I am happy with my family and feel content but since our financial troubles this year, it is putting a strain on us as a family. For the first time in my life, I have to be late for my bills on purpose cuz I cant afford them and it is causing me some anxiety. Right now, I am between a rock and a hard place about quitting my job to find a better paying job. There are so much we want to do with this house but we cant cuz of other stupid bills and now the lawyer bill just got added. It is not a fun way to live, honestly. I am not looking to be a millionare but would like to live comfortablly where I can be able to save money instead of making the decision each week on which bills I should be late on and etc. It is really stressful but no, I dont feel lonely.

All I just tell myself..the worse thing that can happen is for us is our excellent credit to become not so excellent. My hubby just got a 2nd job on the weekends and soon I will work at my 2nd job over the summer so that should help and then my SUV will be paid off next year and I am NOT buying a new car..will use the money to pay off bills. Once everything gets better, then we would be more happy.
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exactly... money DOES bring happiness in a way. If you're able to pay all bills on time and work part-time/full-time and then be home when kids are back from schools... that's less stress and less fighting between spouses. If the financial strain continues to persist - this most likely leads to divorce, a loss of house, and/or even a loss of child custody because you cannot afford to raise them.

You're right that you do not need a several hundred thousand dollars or even a million dollars to be happy and to make your family happy. Just by having a few thousand bucks more to your current income can be enough to keep a happy, loving family together under one roof.
 
Ive seen a family with literally nothing except but a run down shack for a shelter act more happy than the richest man in town. The poor family worked for the rich man.

Who was richer?
 
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