Declaration of Occupy Wall Street

[deafskeptic]

Hitler and Stalin also got it...and I'm not surprised frankly, because US is very conservative nation that frowns upon dissent and activism the way other countries do.

Yep, the Time mag indeed did name both Stalin and Hitler the man of the year.

 

[TXgolfer]

Hitler and Stalin also got it...and I'm not surprised frankly, because US is very conservative nation that frowns upon dissent and activism the way other countries do.

And Bush too :P

Stalin got it twice

 

[Reba]

I have never been asked a poll question. Have you? Has anyone in here? ....

Yes, we have. In fact, we got two polling calls about the Republican primary choices this week.

Do you have a land-line telephone? All of our polling calls have been on our land-line phone, not on the cell phones.

 

[Beowulf]

Yes, we have. In fact, we got two polling calls about the Republican primary choices this week.

Do you have a land-line telephone? All of our polling calls have been on our land-line phone, not on the cell phones.

I know you are not an audist, so I will forgive you this time.

 

[Reba]

I know you are not an audist, so I will forgive you this time.

My point was, the pollsters contact people by land line telephone, so people without land line phones won't get polled. If you want them to include other communication methods (VP, Relay, cell phone, texting, etc.), you can take it up with them.

Some of the polling calls we got were automated, and some were live callers.

In addition to the polling calls, we get literally dozens of candidates' robocalls. It's awful. They call several times a day.

BTW, not just hearies have land lines.

 

[Beowulf]

My point was, the pollsters contact people by land line telephone, so people without land line phones won't get polled. If you want them to include other communication methods (VP, Relay, cell phone, texting, etc.), you can take it up with them.

Some of the polling calls we got were automated, and some were live callers.

In addition to the polling calls, we get literally dozens of candidates' robocalls. It's awful. They call several times a day.

BTW, not just hearies have land lines.

Besides you, I wonder how many of us in here were actually polled?

 

[Reba]

Besides you, I wonder how many of us in here were actually polled?

That's a good question. Pollsters need to open up ways to contact deaf voters and include their opinions.

I suppose there are internet polls available but that's a little different. The voter needs to look up the poll, rather than the pollster contacting the voter.

 

[DeafCaroline]

Occupy Wall St is the Kid in the Fairy Tale – The Emperor Has No Clothes - Paul Gilding - Independent writer & advisor on sustainability.

"The actual numbers make it more human. In the US, the top 1% have an average annual household income of over $1 million while the bottom 90% of households average a little over $30,000. So much for a “middle” class. If you want to dive into the data and see how comprehensive this problem is, take a look at the range of charts here at Business Insider. People will debate different analyses, but it is now so extreme the details don’t change the conclusions. That’s why so many prominent economic commentators are supporting many of the Occupy movement’s arguments.

But these problems haven’t just arrived, so why the public focus now? Partly it’s the strategic brilliance of Occupy Wall St. I have run and observed activist campaigns for 35 years, and this is a very smart campaign. For a start the lack of leaders and the lack of clear demands is not disorganisation, it’s a brilliant strategy. Anyone can join, as long as you’re part of the 99% and feel the system has let you down and isn’t fair. Given the numbers above, that makes the “target market” pretty much everyone. It’s not exclusionary by supporting particularly political positions and its lack of clear leaders, means the many contradictions inherent in such a broad coalition can’t easily be confronted. This is modern, distributed and resilient campaigning at it’s best. My hats off to them...

.....The world is an integrated system. So when we look at individual issues – these protests, the debt crisis, inequality, resource constraint, food prices, the recession, money’s influence in politics or accelerating climate chaos – we mistakenly see them in isolation. In fact it’s the system, our system, in the painful process of breaking down. Our system – of economic growth, of ineffective democracy, of overloading planet earth – is eating itself alive.

Occupy Wall St is simply the kid in the fairy tale, saying what everyone knows but has, until now, been afraid to say – the emperor has no clothes – we have system failure."

 

[DeafCaroline]

Occupy Wall St is the Kid in the Fairy Tale – The Emperor Has No Clothes - Paul Gilding - Independent writer & advisor on sustainability.

"The actual numbers make it more human. In the US, the top 1% have an average annual household income of over $1 million while the bottom 90% of households average a little over $30,000. So much for a “middle” class. If you want to dive into the data and see how comprehensive this problem is, take a look at the range of charts here at Business Insider. People will debate different analyses, but it is now so extreme the details don’t change the conclusions. That’s why so many prominent economic commentators are supporting many of the Occupy movement’s arguments.

But these problems haven’t just arrived, so why the public focus now? Partly it’s the strategic brilliance of Occupy Wall St. I have run and observed activist campaigns for 35 years, and this is a very smart campaign. For a start the lack of leaders and the lack of clear demands is not disorganisation, it’s a brilliant strategy. Anyone can join, as long as you’re part of the 99% and feel the system has let you down and isn’t fair. Given the numbers above, that makes the “target market” pretty much everyone. It’s not exclusionary by supporting particularly political positions and its lack of clear leaders, means the many contradictions inherent in such a broad coalition can’t easily be confronted. This is modern, distributed and resilient campaigning at it’s best. My hats off to them...

.....The world is an integrated system. So when we look at individual issues – these protests, the debt crisis, inequality, resource constraint, food prices, the recession, money’s influence in politics or accelerating climate chaos – we mistakenly see them in isolation. In fact it’s the system, our system, in the painful process of breaking down. Our system – of economic growth, of ineffective democracy, of overloading planet earth – is eating itself alive.

Occupy Wall St is simply the kid in the fairy tale, saying what everyone knows but has, until now, been afraid to say – the emperor has no clothes – we have system failure."

 

[deafskeptic]

And Bush too :P

Stalin got it twice

Says something about it's quality of choices, doesn't it? :P I think we can establish they have an excellent track record of picking some pretty questionable leaders.

 

[kokonut]

hmmm...occupy White House? Peaceful protesters throw a smoke bomb.

An apparent smoke bomb was thrown over the fence of the White House as hundreds of Occupy protesters massed outside the gates.

Occupy protesters dispersed outside White House; apparent smoke bomb thrown - The Washington Post

Hmm....

 

[DeafCaroline]

Hmm..nothing in the article calling them peaceful protesters....oh wait, that was you. Of course.

 

[kokonut]

Hmm..nothing in the article calling them peaceful protesters....oh wait, that was you. Of course.

So, they weren't peaceful? All somebody did was throw a harmless smoke bomb over the fence. Is it possible to protest peacefully? I'd say they were protesting peacefully since no arrests were made. But that's just me.

 

[Jiro]

hmmm...occupy White House? Peaceful protesters throw a smoke bomb.


Occupy protesters dispersed outside White House; apparent smoke bomb thrown - The Washington Post

Hmm....

I thought you would be elated about this but how nice of you to be concerned for Obama

 

[DeafCaroline]

So, they weren't peaceful? All somebody did was throw a harmless smoke bomb over the fence. Is it possible to protest peacefully? I'd say they were protesting peacefully since no arrests were made. But that's just me.

pfft.

 

[kokonut]

So, they weren't peaceful? All somebody did was throw a harmless smoke bomb over the fence. Is it possible to protest peacefully? I'd say they were protesting peacefully since no arrests were made. But that's just me.

Interesting...according to Foxnews:

While the rally was mostly peaceful, there were some scuffles between police and protesters along walkways leading to the Capitol. By mid-afternoon Tuesday, four people had been arrested -- U.S. Capitol Police said -- one for allegedly assaulting a police officer and three accused of crossing a police line.

'Occupy' Protesters Suspected Of Throwing Smoke Bomb Over White House Fence | Fox News

Nothing was said about the arrests in WaPo. Still, the protest was mostly peaceful. That's good.

 

[Beowulf]

I guess a certain poster is willing to pay for cleaning up the White House lawn.

 

[Jiro]

Interesting...according to Foxnews:



'Occupy' Protesters Suspected Of Throwing Smoke Bomb Over White House Fence | Fox News

Nothing was said about the arrests in WaPo. Still, the protest was mostly peaceful. That's good.

I lol'ed at sudden switch of your tone. You were like "omg they're violent" from Washington Post and now you're like "oh it's all good" when it's from Fox News.

 

[Beowulf]

It's obvious as a cow's hyperbole.

 

[DeafCaroline]

I lol'ed at sudden switch of your tone. You were like "omg they're violent" from Washington Post and now you're like "oh it's all good" when it's from Fox News.

I had to laugh when I noted Fox News' article's title was "Occupier, NOT a Tea Partier, suspected of throwing unknown object over White House fence."