Declaration of Occupy Wall Street

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Jiro said:
I'm lol'ing at these armchair critics about NYPD's action. They clearly have no idea what NYPD and the culture of it in here is like. They are nothing like cops they're familiar with in their towns.

major lol. let me repeat.

lol.
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Yep, I laugh at myself because I'm not a cop. And neither are you. :giggle:
 
:DAlex, I REALLY liked what you wrote about "othering" and speech a page or two back!:thumb:
 
Steinhauer said:
"Proud of her for being arrested ...."

well, you know what they say - birds of a feather
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Blatantly troll much?

Steinhauer said:
Thomas Sowell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Sowell has been criticized for various remarks such as a comparison he made between President Barack Obama and Adolf Hitler in an editorial for Investor's Business Daily[29] after the creation of a relief fund for the BP oil spill. This has been criticized by liberal groups such as Media Matters[30] and the Democratic National Committee.[31] However, Republicans such as Sarah Palin[31] and Representative Louie Gohmert[32] have endorsed Sowell's comparison. Sowell was also criticized for an editorial in which he stated that the Democratic Party played the Race card, instigating ethnic divisions and separatism, and argued that a similar situation occurred between the Tutsis and the Hutus in Rwanda.[33][34]
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Just the usual run of the mill criticism - pales in comparison to the man's actual accomplishments in life.
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So, you have pride for him in making the Hitler comparisons, and Palin endorsing said comparisons? Are you angered that "those nasty pigs that voted for Obama" appear to find the Hitler reference offensive? Do you have any idea who Hitler is? Should those Liberal Socialist pigs go to the back of the bus, before the police use water cannons and dogs on them?
 
Have I missed anything?

One comment that I must make; why is the quality of the video such a factor only when it incriminates someone's viewpoint in this debate? If it shows a police brutality situation, the anti-OWS people complain that the video is of poor quality. If it shows a OWS protester assaulting a LEO, the OWS supporters here claim the video is not clear enough. What do we need to do, send legions of Hollywood camera crews into the area, to capture "unblurred" evidence that someone did something bad to someone else? Sheesh...

OK, I am outta here.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Gasp! Are you telling me I omitted pertinent information and selectively cited a law in order to further my own opinion? Heeeeellloooooooooooo pot!

Why, hello again, pot! Nice to see you again so soon!
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No. Nothing like that. Just that for a fact what you gave applies to civilians.
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Oh jeeze, you do not value anyone's opinion other than your own, and everyone here knows that. Never, not once, have you said something to the tune of "Hey, that's a good point. I'll have to think about that some more." The only time you bring up this, "let's respect each others opinion" crap is when you are backed up against a wall. How convenient.
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I have my opinions. I agree with some, others I do not. A pretty straight forward approach, I'd say. My expectations of people I keep to my own. No need to write them out or else one might find himself mighty disappointed.
 
saywhatkid said:
Have I missed anything?

One comment that I must make; why is the quality of the video such a factor only when it incriminates someone's viewpoint in this debate? If it shows a police brutality situation, the anti-OWS people complain that the video is of poor quality. If it shows a OWS protester assaulting a LEO, the OWS supporters here claim the video is not clear enough. What do we need to do, send legions of Hollywood camera crews into the area, to capture "unblurred" evidence that someone did something bad to someone else? Sheesh...

OK, I am outta here.
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So, the video isn't blurry? No shaking at all? No out of focus, partial video shots? You can actually see what's behind that camera or what? Like I said, it'd be great to see a better quality video with more details. I saw what I saw. So did others. Some would rather wish it'd have more details and better video quality for a better confirmation. That's all.
 
kokonut said:
So, the video isn't blurry? No shaking at all? No out of focus, partial video shots? You can actually see what's behind that camera or what? Like I said, it'd be great to see a better quality video with more details. I saw what I saw. So did others. Some would rather wish it'd have more details and better video quality for a better confirmation. That's all.
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to see that Hannah is at fault?
 
kokonut said:
So, the video isn't blurry? No shaking at all? No out of focus, partial video shots? You can actually see what's behind that camera or what? Like I said, it'd be great to see a better quality video with more details. I saw what I saw. So did others. Some would rather wish it'd have more details and better video quality for a better confirmation. That's all.
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I am talking about the 10,000,000,000+ videos that have been posted in this thread. If they show someone's favored point of view, they show it clearly. If they show the other side's viewpoint, they are fuzzy. We have people breaking down these YouTube videos in ways reminiscent of the McGruder film. I just :roll:
 
TheWriteAlex said:
If that's how you really feel, then it's good that you posted it. Like Emerson says, speak your words like cannonballs. Obviously it's a saying that I live by. . .

But, I'm afraid to say that you are absolutely wrong. Linguists have debunked the mentality that you expressed time and time again. What you are doing here is "othering" the chancellor of UCD. It's not because she speaks poor English that you have a problem with her; it's because she does not speak the same kind of English as yourself.

I taught many international students as a college instructor (up to four or five international students per class of twenty). The majority of them had a better written command of English than most of my native students, however it was more difficult to understand them when they spoke simply because American English was not their mother tongue. In some cases, like the case of East Indians, they learn British English (which explains their strong written command of it). This complicates the situation when they come to America because their pronunciation is trying to follow a different pronunciation to begin with. However, according to the British, we Americans make no sense when we talk as well. If you went to England, would you be offended if someone told you to "SPEAK ENGLISH BETTER!"?

I'd be willing to bet this woman can read, write, and comprehend English at a much higher level than 99.99% of the American population, probably even more than yourself, but because she has an accent, there will always be people who mistake that for inferiority. It's unfortunate, it's prejudiced, and it's just plain wrong.
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Alex, I don't think that I feel she is inferior but I guess it just bothers me somewhat that someone from a foreign country got to such a place of authority. If she is truly qualified for the job and a U.S. citizen then it really shouldn't matter. These are just some of the prejudices that we are taught and grow up with. Most need to be put away as the way I see it we should only be prejudiced against bad actions or behaviors such as criminal ones. Not racial or religious.
 
sallylou said:
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Yea, that 82 year old woman could have been a NINJA!
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No, that 82 year old woman shouldn't have placed herself in such a situation as this. The other protesters didn't help her safety much either. She chose to put herself at risk. I feel bad for her but let me tell you something, old folks can pack a heck of a punch sometimes! Never underestimate the elderly!
 
There are many "elderly" activists and they don't need your paternalism. The Raging Grannies would give you a tongue lashing for that. lol
 
TheWriteAlex said:
The video, while not perfect, is still a good capture of the altercation. The "we don't know what happened off camera" crap is no longer valid. Deafdyke has provided us with inside information on this event.

Instead of beating around the bush, why don't you just come out and say deafdyke and her friends are liars?
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Because I have no intention of saying that. Clearly the officer thought he saw something. I posted the frames that show that. Maybe some day we will know what he saw or what he thought he saw.
 
airportcop said:
By the way jillio, I was invited here and did not come here to troll nor do I do otherwise anywhere else! I have a great love and respect for those in the deaf community.
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Pepper spray poses no health risks? You might want to double check your information on that one. Numerous deaths have been linked to it's use.:cool2:

Steiny begged you to come here because he was doing a horrid job of discussing the topic on his own. You are here as his back-up, pure and simple. Otherwise you would never have joined this forum. Don't patronize with your words of love and respect. :cool2: You know nothing of the deaf community.
 
airportcop said:
Alex, I don't think that I feel she is inferior but I guess it just bothers me somewhat that someone from a foreign country got to such a place of authority. If she is truly qualified for the job and a U.S. citizen then it really shouldn't matter. These are just some of the prejudices that we are taught and grow up with. Most need to be put away as the way I see it we should only be prejudiced against bad actions or behaviors such as criminal ones. Not racial or religious.
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I'll agree with you on the part that our prejudices should only be towards bad actions and behavior, but that doesn't help me understand where you sit in this issue. Why do you feel threatened that a non-native born American is in such a place of authority? That woman has been in the United States for longer than the vast majority of the students under her charge have been alive, much longer.

Here is her bio page: Chancellor Linda P.B. Katehi

Do you know how difficult it is to become a member of the American Academy of Arts & Sciences? They don't pass these things out like candy to any foreigner who comes through the door.

She has a very distinguished professional career thus far: top teaching and administrative positions at Michigan, Purdue, Illinois, and now Davis. These are all top institutions. If she sucked, believe me, she wouldn't be moving up.
 
Beowulf said:
It is apparent that a few posters are here just for spite.
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Certainly not me. As I said before if the officer is guilty of wrongdoing I hope he is held accountable.

I don't think that can be determined by the video. That's just my opinion.
 
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