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The absence of is still an interpretation in and of itself.
 
missywinks said:
This is bigger than just a Deaf person's journey into Deafhood. As Ladd states, it is the goal for Deafhood to promote new, healthy relationships between deaf, Deaf and hearing people. We have been damaged by audism and oralism and this concept is to support us to improve the situation such as our attitudes towards ourselves, public attitudes, etc. Ladd calls it the "Deaf Resurgence".

So you say, there is no need for it? That is not for you to decide.
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It is for me to decide, yes. I have no need for it.
 
kokonut said:
It is for me to decide, yes. I have no need for it.
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I don't think you understand the concept.

Deafhood is about helping us educate people about who we are and explain that everyone is equal. So you don't think you are equal to the mainstream society? It applies to anyone with any "degree of hearing loss" and whether he or she uses hearing aids or cochlear implants because it is all about their own journey.

I saw this example somewhere, but I can't find it...(I will get the source later) A Deaf ASL user went to a car wash place and he saw a lady with hearing aids. He tapped on her shoulders and asked her if she knew sign language. She didn't. So he spoke and signed to her which he didn't like but he wanted to expose her to ASL and the experience. They started to talk about their experience in the hearing wold. She expressed her frustration with the hearing world and she had a similar experience the same as Deaf people do. She started to lose her hearing when she was 19 years old and even though she uses hearing aides, she still experiences frustrations with the hearing world. She relies heavily on reading lips and having the person face her at all times. She wanted to learn sign language so he told her about sign language classes at the college. THAT IS HER JOURNEY INTO DEAFHOOD.

Deafhood does not save us, but it helps us understand who we are. I wonder if you are actually starting to experience your own journey into Deafhood because you have been learning ASL, posting some vlogs and contributing to AD?
 
missywinks said:
I don't think you understand the concept.

Deafhood is about helping us educate people about who we are and explain that everyone is equal. So you don't think you are equal to the mainstream society? It applies to anyone with any "degree of hearing loss" and whether he or she uses hearing aids or cochlear implants because it is all about their own journey.

I saw this example somewhere, but I can't find it...(I will get the source later) A Deaf ASL user went to a car wash place and he saw a lady with hearing aids. He tapped on her shoulders and asked her if she knew sign language. She didn't. So he spoke and signed to her which he didn't like but he wanted to expose her to ASL and the experience. They started to talk about their experience in the hearing wold. She expressed her frustration with the hearing world and she had a similar experience the same as Deaf people do. She started to lose her hearing when she was 19 years old and even though she uses hearing aides, she still experiences frustrations with the hearing world. She relies heavily on reading lips and having the person face her at all times. She wanted to learn sign language so he told her about sign language classes at the college. THAT IS HER JOURNEY INTO DEAFHOOD.

Deafhood does not save us, but it helps us understand who we are. I wonder if you are actually starting to experience your own journey into Deafhood because you have been learning ASL, posting some vlogs and contributing to AD?
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Little do you know. Are you a mind reader?

I have no need for it.
 
Me again...

I know in the past that HH or Late Deafened people had a hard time to fit in the Deaf Community because they were being rejected because they were not Deaf enough, or they werent fluent enough in ASL. But, that was because the world oppressed us as Deaf people and then in turn, most of us oppressed others without realizing it. But now, with Deafhood, it helps us realize that we all have a similar experience no matter what kind of hearing level we have and helps us educate the mainstream society.

I am not sure if this is applicable to this discussion but thought I would throw this in as typically when people are resistant to Deafhood, it is because they had a bad experience with trying to fit in. Everyone is just going through a process.
 
missywinks said:
Me again...

I know in the past that HH or Late Deafened people had a hard time to fit in the Deaf Community because they were being rejected because they were not Deaf enough, or they werent fluent enough in ASL. But, that was because the world oppressed us as Deaf people and then in turn, most of us oppressed others without realizing it. But now, with Deafhood, it helps us realize that we all have a similar experience no matter what kind of hearing level we have and helps us educate the mainstream society.

I am not sure if this is applicable to this discussion but thought I would throw this in as typically when people are resistant to Deafhood, it is because they had a bad experience with trying to fit in. Everyone is just going through a process.
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Again, little do you know. And once again, I have no need for it. :lol:
 
kokonut said:
You don't get it, do you?
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If you have completely no need for it, why the constant blabbering in this thread?

Going after Ridor in your link you posted here and trying to make him look like he was not bringing unity to the Deaf community - I would expect a better role outta you by that alone.
 
missywinks said:
This is bigger than just a Deaf person's journey into Deafhood. As Ladd states, it is the goal for Deafhood to promote new, healthy relationships between deaf, Deaf and hearing people. We have been damaged by audism and oralism and this concept is to support us to improve the situation such as our attitudes towards ourselves, public attitudes, etc. Ladd calls it the "Deaf Resurgence".

So you say, there is no need for it? That is not for you to decide.
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Damaged? It's a matter of perception, some feel they benefited from the oral and auditory route.
 
souggy said:
Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto, right? Lenin and Mao implemented his ideology as they saw fit. However if Marx was still alive, he would tell us it wasn't what he meant. Too bad Marx was a shitty writer. Brilliant guy, just had a hard time communicating his ideas.

Although I don't think people strayed too far from Paddy Ladd's material. However I will say the ideology has been perverted, but not too much it's not recognizable.

That's the problem with Deafhood, everyone has a different interpretation of it. Even Barry Sewell and Mike McConnell have their own take on it.
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Ok.
Thanks for the explaination.

I'm doomed to read that book, will borrow it from someone this weekend.
 
missywinks said:
Me again...

I know in the past that HH or Late Deafened people had a hard time to fit in the Deaf Community because they were being rejected because they were not Deaf enough, or they werent fluent enough in ASL. But, that was because the world oppressed us as Deaf people and then in turn, most of us oppressed others without realizing it. when people are resistant to Deafhood, it is because they had a bad experience with trying to fit in. Everyone is just going through a process.
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This happened to me. I have worked through the pain and anger that being rejected by the (where I was living at the time) local Deaf community(because of my inabity to form signs) and have thought of another way of communting in NZSL by using sign PCES http://www.alldeaf.com/sign-language-oralism/89159-sign-language-pces.html

as well as adapting as many signs as I can to 1 handed

missywinks said:
I don't think you understand the concept.

Deafhood is about helping us educate people about who we are and explain that everyone is equal. So you don't think you are equal to the mainstream society? It applies to anyone with any "degree of hearing loss" and whether he or she uses hearing aids or cochlear implants because it is all about their own journey.

Deafhood does not save us, but it helps us understand who we are.
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Deafhood helped me understand my place and space in world
 
jillio said:
One is not consciously aware of the many ways one is socialized to believe.:cool2:
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And that could work both ways. :cool2:

jillio said:
Of course one can be audist without knowing it.

To be accurate, getting a CI is a way of remediating lack of audiological input. Does nothing to address dealing with deafness as a holisitic condition.

What deaf militants are you referring to? Haven't seen on of those around these parts for several years.

Of course there is such a thing as hearinghood. Look around.
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You know there were times I was glad my mother used "tough love" with me when I was growing up. Rather than just keep on stroking me saying "It's always the hearing society's fault. They're all audists out there!"
 
posts from hell said:
If you have completely no need for it, why the constant blabbering in this thread?

Going after Ridor in your link you posted here and trying to make him look like he was not bringing unity to the Deaf community - I would expect a better role outta you by that alone.
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The label is what I'm talking about.

He doesn't bring unity. Pretty obvious. But that's the beside the point here. Not about him or me.

Don't worry about me if I don't fullfill your expectations. Each to his/her own.
 
"I have no need for it."

Kokonut - yeah you do otherwise you wouldn't always be here posting and commenting and sharing your thoughts with us. If indeed Deafhood and deaf culture and deaf community are meaningless to you, then you would never be here so evidently, you do care enough to be here every single day even if to keep posting that you don't need all this.
 
Where's my DO NOT FEED THE TROLL picture? BRB
 
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