scam
recently my brother has beenscam... omg the whole thing was done tmw is supposedly the day they are going to bring the cash i knew it was a scam all along so basically he lost 1035.00 dollars... everything was so making more sense after reading these post on this forum... heres a copy of the conversation... so basically we got through the whole thing i knew it was a scam all along..... i asked my bro if he wanted to go through wit it i had a very bad feeling and i was shaking but it was his call... please every check this conversation out... it relates to all the other scam.... do not get fool.... no one gets money for free then have to pay a thousand for stupid certificated and delivering fee...
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 7:00 pm, Maria Copado wrote:
> ----------------------- 5:07 pm -----------------------
> emersonkayla100: am back now
> houayaj79: Ok hold
> emersonkayla100: ok
> ----------------------- 5:11 pm -----------------------
> houayaj79: Hi kayla
> emersonkayla100: now i am waiting to see the mtcn
> emersonkayla100: am here
> houayaj79: Okay this is houa sister
> houayaj79: I would like to ask a few question about the lottery win
> emersonkayla100: okay
> houayaj79: How about you tell me a little about the organization doing
> the lottery
> houayaj79: I would like to know if the lottery is legit and how it can
> be proven to be legit
> emersonkayla100: okay i let u know about it
> emersonkayla100: well this is just a new proram to help deaf comunity
> houayaj79: So how where you guys able to retrieve his information and
> his aim when he did not enter the lottery
> emersonkayla100: CONGRATULATION YOU WON $50,000 THOUSAND USA DOLLARS
> FROM 2008 LOTTO
> emersonkayla100: HOT LOTTO
> emersonkayla100: A division of Deaf Lottery Association
> (DAL).United States.
> emersonkayla100:
> emersonkayla100: FROM THE DESK OF THE DIRECTOR INTERNATIONAL PRIZE
> AWARD DEPT.
> emersonkayla100: Attn Lucky Winner
> emersonkayla100: NOTIFICATION FOR CATEGORY "Hot Ball: 15" WINNER
> ONLY Date: Wed 30 2008
> emersonkayla100:
> emersonkayla100: We are pleased to inform you of the result of the
> last final draw of
> emersonkayla100: our
> emersonkayla100: International Lottery Programs.The online cyber
> lotto
> emersonkayla100:
> emersonkayla100: draws was conducted from an exclusive list of 3
> e-mail addresses of
> emersonkayla100: individual and corporate bodies picked by Advanced
> emersonkayla100:
> emersonkayla100: Automated Random Computer Search from the
> internet. No tickets were
> emersonkayla100: sold again
> emersonkayla100:
> emersonkayla100: can u undy now?
> houayaj79: Undy
> houayaj79: ,
> houayaj79: ?
> emersonkayla100: now i contact him to pay for the delievering fee so
> that wqe can bring the money to his home addrresss
> emersonkayla100: he already pay 400 certificate fee
> houayaj79: Y does he have to pay a fee if its a lottery win
> houayaj79: When there is a lottery I'm sure fees r taken care of
> emersonkayla100: so all he need to pay 635 so that we can deliever the
> money to him
> emersonkayla100: yeah
> houayaj79: Y is it the fee can't the lottery cover that
> ----------------------- 5:21 pm -----------------------
> emersonkayla100: all lottery do request for the certificate and
> delievering fee
> houayaj79: Where's the term and condition
> emersonkayla100: they have to pay for thr certificate the certificate
> to show to irs and sdi to know the money is from lottery so that he we
> not have to pay tax it tax free
> emersonkayla100: u got it?
> houayaj79: Is there a web site that shows terms and condition
> emersonkayla100: yeah
> emersonkayla100:
Massachusetts State Lottery
> emersonkayla100:
Powerball - Home Page
> emersonkayla100:
> emersonkayla100: well i need to proof to u this is not scam or fake
> emersonkayla100: am honest
> emersonkayla100: as sson as u he pay for the delievering he we get his
> money
> houayaj79: Okay I just don't want houa to go through this to the end
> and not be knowing it is real or not because he is deaf and we have to
> care for him
> houayaj79: Where is this money coming from? Basically he is paying for
> the certificate not for the truck delivery
> emersonkayla100: the money comes from the federal gov't to help deaf
> comunity
> houayaj79: Okay
> emersonkayla100: yeah he paid already for the certificate
> emersonkayla100: u got me right
> emersonkayla100: i am feeling u here too
> houayaj79: So the fee is just for the certificate fee? Because he is on
> ssi he can't get the money on time will that take his winning away
> houayaj79: Is there a contact number we can call just incase
> emersonkayla100: we dont allow anyone call us we use the only text mail
> number to text people
> houayaj79: Y is that so
> ----------------------- 5:32 pm -----------------------
> emersonkayla100: we have been doing that before just becoz of those who
> use the call number scaming deaf money
> houayaj79: Okay
> emersonkayla100: so the gov.t deside to stop give the number
> houayaj79: I am looking at the page and there is legal information
> emersonkayla100: so if u will like to have the text number we gave u
> houayaj79: Okay
> emersonkayla100: i will soon get off on aim now
> houayaj79: Okay
> emersonkayla100: so maybe
> emersonkayla100: did ur brother send the money yet?
> emersonkayla100: that's why im here to have the mtcn
> houayaj79: So I hope that this is going to help him and futher on I
> hope it is not going to be fake
> emersonkayla100: i swear it for real okay
> houayaj79: He is here for help from me and his mom so we can help him
> send the money
> emersonkayla100: ?
> emersonkayla100: yes
> houayaj79: Okay I will let him know
> emersonkayla100: as soon as he send the 635 i am asure u he we get the
> money by 4pm tmw
> houayaj79: So don't u guys need to be able to receive his money before
> sending off his cash
> houayaj79: Or does he do electronically
> emersonkayla100: yeah
> houayaj79: So he sends the money electronically
> emersonkayla100: his sn won the star prize electronically
> emersonkayla100: nope
> emersonkayla100: she will send the money to me via western union
> houayaj79: How does his sn get enter
> emersonkayla100: we hjave million of sn on our database
> houayaj79: Okay
> houayaj79: I will let him know
> emersonkayla100: i will soon go off now
> houayaj79: So if he sends the money tmw he get his lottery win tmw
> emersonkayla100: tell him to hurry up send the money
> houayaj79: How much is the fee
> houayaj79: When does he need to send it by
> emersonkayla100: 635$
> ----------------------- 5:42 pm -----------------------
> emersonkayla100: today
> houayaj79: How is it possible to get to you though, is he sending his
> money electronically
> emersonkayla100: i already explain to him better
> houayaj79: Okay
> emersonkayla100: he know how to send the money to me
> houayaj79: Okay I will ask him
> emersonkayla100: u can get the money for him to pay now
> houayaj79: I will talk with him
> emersonkayla100: i am waiting here now to have the mtcn
> houayaj79: Wats the mtcn
> emersonkayla100: and we work with the rite time to make everything rite
> way
> emersonkayla100: mtcn ,,,meant ,MONEY TRANFER CONTROL NUMBER
> houayaj79: Okay
> emersonkayla100: he know what the mtcn mean u can ask him
> houayaj79: Yeah
> emersonkayla100: he have just only 27 mins now to pay the fee and give
> me the mtcn
> houayaj79: K
> emersonkayla100: make sure he put his name as the senders name
> emersonkayla100: we need everything to verify
> emersonkayla100: i mean to process his money
> emersonkayla100: okay
> emersonkayla100: now it 26 mins left
> houayaj79: Okay
> houayaj79: So if he pays now then what time will he receive his money
> tmw
> emersonkayla100: 4pm tmw
> emersonkayla100: sure
> emersonkayla100: we have rule and regulation
> houayaj79: Okay does that conme with the money tmw
> emersonkayla100: do not tell anyone untill he get the cash tmw
> ----------------------- 5:52 pm -----------------------
> houayaj79: Okay
> emersonkayla100: becoz we dont want to get robb on our way bringing the
> money to his home address
> houayaj79: We will help
> emersonkayla100: for more security
> houayaj79: Yeah we understand
> houayaj79: Is it coming in brinks?
> emersonkayla100: respect us pls
> emersonkayla100: where is ur brother now?
> emersonkayla100: hope on way to pay right?
> houayaj79: We r going to give him the money
> emersonkayla100: u have to give him now
> emersonkayla100: it just 23 left now to go
> emersonkayla100: so i dont have much time to talk
> houayaj79: Okay
> emersonkayla100: who are u to him?
> houayaj79: I'm his younger sister
> emersonkayla100: i like way u attack me asking me on inteligentquestion
> houayaj79: Okay
> emersonkayla100: how long from there to the wu store ?
> houayaj79: I'm protective I use to work at the bank
> houayaj79: So I ahte scam
> emersonkayla100: it will take how many mins?
> houayaj79: Is like 3 min
> houayaj79: So give him 5 to 10 min
> emersonkayla100: greath
> houayaj79: He will do wat u guys have discuss
> houayaj79: I'm b
> emersonkayla100: tell him make sure no mistake
> houayaj79: I'm puttong my trust in u
> houayaj79: Okay
> houayaj79: Should I go with him to write anything
> emersonkayla100: okay and i kayla i promise i will show up there tmw
> 4pm
> emersonkayla100: u can hewlp him
> emersonkayla100: okay
> emersonkayla100: make sure u keep secret okay
> emersonkayla100: respect me
> emersonkayla100: for more security
> houayaj79: Okay so tell me wat we need to do
> houayaj79: What does he need for verification
> emersonkayla100: just to go and send the money right now okay
> houayaj79: Okay we r going to be at the place 8in 3 min
> emersonkayla100: that's all he need to do now
> houayaj79: How much time left
> ----------------------- 6:02 pm -----------------------
> emersonkayla100: like 17 mins left now
> houayaj79: K we r almost at the place
> emersonkayla100: okay
> emersonkayla100: i hold now
> houayaj79: just give ur name?
> emersonkayla100: he have my info ask him
> houayaj79: We r here but some one is still on the phone
> houayaj79: Okay
> houayaj79: Its over the phone so he ask me to come n see if I can
> translate
> emersonkayla100: sk
> houayaj79: Okay so we r one the pahone
> houayaj79: Phone
> emersonkayla100: i can't undy u?
> emersonkayla100: are u talking to someone on the phone?
> emersonkayla100: ?
> houayaj79: Yes
> emersonkayla100: oic
> emersonkayla100: are u at the western union store right?
> emersonkayla100: about 13 mins now
> houayaj79: They r asking for city and state of u who r receiving it
> emersonkayla100: ask ur brother my full information
> emersonkayla100: or i give u again?
> emersonkayla100: here is it again
> emersonkayla100: NAME........KAYLA EMERSON
> emersonkayla100: ADDRESS.....3,MARKET STREET,
> emersonkayla100: CITY........IPERU
> emersonkayla100: STATE.......OGUN
> emersonkayla100: COUNTRY.....NIGERIA
> emersonkayla100: ZIPCODE.....23437
> emersonkayla100: TEXT QUESTION...MONEY
> emersonkayla100: ANSWER.......FEES
> emersonkayla100: make sure no mistake
> emersonkayla100: okay
> ----------------------- 6:15 pm -----------------------
> houayaj79: How many more minute
> emersonkayla100: are u fillingout the paper
> emersonkayla100: about 8 mins now
> houayaj79: How come it is going to nigeria
> emersonkayla100: yes i did explain to ur brother
> emersonkayla100: he know that i am in afri ca right now for the black
> people deaf lottery
> houayaj79: Okay so u r coming tomorrow to
> emersonkayla100: we use to travel every where all over the wolrd
> emersonkayla100: sure
> emersonkayla100: we travel everyday and hours
> houayaj79: So can repeat the information u gave me
> emersonkayla100: about 5 mins left
> emersonkayla100: yes
> houayaj79: Okay
> emersonkayla100: go ahead
> emersonkayla100: to make sure no mistake
> houayaj79: K
> houayaj79: In us dollars?
> emersonkayla100: yeah
> houayaj79: Oaky
> emersonkayla100: real cash we deliever cash not check
> emersonkayla100: hurry
> emersonkayla100: about 3minsnow
> emersonkayla100: u have to do asap
> emersonkayla100: are u done fillingout the paper right?
> ----------------------- 6:27 pm -----------------------
> houayaj79: Yeah
> emersonkayla100: u can repeat the info i gave u now
> emersonkayla100: what is the mtcn first?
> houayaj79: is that the trans number
> emersonkayla100: yeah
> emersonkayla100: where are u ?
> emersonkayla100: do u pay to western union right?
> houayaj79: He didn't noe there was a trans fee
> houayaj79: He only brought 635
> houayaj79: We have to pay 653
> emersonkayla100: ?
> emersonkayla100: in said where did u pay to ?
> emersonkayla100: are u at western union store?
> houayaj79: I don't think we r going to send on time
> houayaj79: Yes
> houayaj79: But its a total of 653
> emersonkayla100: at western union ?
> emersonkayla100: ?
> emersonkayla100: ?
> houayaj79: Yes
> houayaj79: We pay to the address u gave us
> emersonkayla100: do u still have the western union paper with u?
> houayaj79: The man has is
> emersonkayla100: i mean the fillingout paper?
> houayaj79: He tried confirming it but houa went back home to het the
> fee money of 10 dollar
> emersonkayla100: the form ?
> houayaj79: The guys have the paper
> houayaj79: The form yes the guys has it
> emersonkayla100: go there and get it from the guy
> houayaj79: Okay wat do u need
> emersonkayla100: u chek it u will see where it MONEY TRANFER CONTROL
> NIUMBER
> houayaj79: Wat info its just the trans number and the amt
> houayaj79: I gave u the number already
> emersonkayla100: it must be at list 10 digit number
>
> ----------------------- 6:37 pm -----------------------
> emersonkayla100: wrong
> houayaj79: R u sure that's wat we wrote down
> emersonkayla100: must be 10 digit number
> emersonkayla100: okay
> emersonkayla100: go back to the wu man
> houayaj79: K
> houayaj79: We r waiting to pay now
> houayaj79: Is time up?
> emersonkayla100: yeah
> emersonkayla100: make sure u hurry up
> houayaj79: So isn't it to late to send the money
> emersonkayla100: are u just paying now
> emersonkayla100: have pay yet or just paying now?
> houayaj79: Yes the man in front of us is taking long
> houayaj79: K
> emersonkayla100: ask him what is the mtcn munber
> houayaj79: Okay
> emersonkayla100: i am waiting right now
> houayaj79: K
> emersonkayla100: hold on
> houayaj79: K
> ----------------------- 6:46 pm -----------------------
> houayaj79: So wat happen
> emersonkayla100: hold on
> emersonkayla100: what is the senders name?
> houayaj79: Houa yang
> emersonkayla100: what is the text question and answer?
> houayaj79: Money
> emersonkayla100: what is the answer?
> houayaj79: Fees
> emersonkayla100: u send how much?
> houayaj79: 635
> emersonkayla100: what is the city?
> houayaj79: Iperu
> emersonkayla100: state?
> houayaj79: Ogun
> emersonkayla100: nigeria right?
> houayaj79: Yes
> houayaj79: 23437
> emersonkayla100: greath
> houayaj79: Okay
> emersonkayla100: now u have to keep secret
> houayaj79: Okay
> emersonkayla100: for more security
> emersonkayla100: smile
> houayaj79: So if I am to be there tmw is that okay or no
> emersonkayla100: what ur sister name?
> houayaj79: This is his sister
> houayaj79: I called western union for him
> emersonkayla100: i want u to be there tmw
> houayaj79: Okay
> emersonkayla100: i will like to met u there okay
> houayaj79: Okay
> emersonkayla100: nope not need call western union okay
> emersonkayla100: we bring deliever in person
> houayaj79: Okay
> emersonkayla100: sk
> emersonkayla100: i gotta go now tmw
> houayaj79: Okay
> emersonkayla100: i have no time now
> ----------------------- 6:56 pm -----------------------
> emersonkayla100: take care
> houayaj79: At wat time? 4 ish
> emersonkayla100: tmw 4pm
> houayaj79: K
> houayaj79: Tk
> houayaj79: C u tmw
> emersonkayla100: great ur mom
> houayaj79: Yeah
> emersonkayla100: sk bye
> emersonkayla100: emersonkayla100 signed off at 6:58 pm.
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