Deaf Awareness

If that's really the line in the sand for Deaf Culture, I won't argue with it; you all surely know more than I do about the culture as such. It seems to me rather unnecessarily divisive for those of us in that vast middle area who are not really hearing, and not really deaf (or Deaf), but so be it, if that's the case.

And that is so true, BG. Just because one prefer to do things differently as a person with hearing loss some people actually hold that against that person. Not all of us have the same hearing loss or experiences.
 
Speaking only for myself, I wouldn't spend all that money if I didn't think it was necessary for a full, productive life. I'm assuming that would be true for most people who have done that, and even more so for those who have had surgery. No one has surgery on a whim or thinking it's desirable but not necessary.

I'm pretty sure no one with hearing, no matter how much they admire Deaf Culture, is going to go out and deliberately do anything to make them lose their hearing, on the grounds that hearing is not really necessary for a full, productive life.

If that's really the line in the sand for Deaf Culture, I won't argue with it; you all surely know more than I do about the culture as such. It seems to me rather unnecessarily divisive for those of us in that vast middle area who are not really hearing, and not really deaf (or Deaf), but so be it, if that's the case.

Re: the bolded: one does not have to destroy their hearing to believe that sound is not necessary for a full and productive life. To even suggest that is absurd.

It isn't devisive in the least. Hearing and hearing think people make it devisive by believing that they, and all deaf people are incapable of being as valuable, as productive, as contributatory to society, happy, and live every bit as full a life as someone who perceives sound. You have just demonstrated the foundational premise of audism.
 
Speaking only for myself, I wouldn't spend all that money if I didn't think it was necessary for a full, productive life. I'm assuming that would be true for most people who have done that, and even more so for those who have had surgery. No one has surgery on a whim or thinking it's desirable but not necessary.

I'm pretty sure no one with hearing, no matter how much they admire Deaf Culture, is going to go out and deliberately do anything to make them lose their hearing, on the grounds that hearing is not really necessary for a full, productive life.

If that's really the line in the sand for Deaf Culture, I won't argue with it; you all surely know more than I do about the culture as such. It seems to me rather unnecessarily divisive for those of us in that vast middle area who are not really hearing, and not really deaf (or Deaf), but so be it, if that's the case.


I have been involved with Deaf culture for like 15 years now...I have met thousands of Deaf people. Never met one who wanted to deliberately make their hearing levels detoriate. That's new to me.

Nobody talks about their level of hearing. It is not important in Deaf culture.
 
Yea, when I showed up, I didn't know anything! My family never learned ASL or about Deaf culture. It's really sad because family members just became more isolated. My experience here gave me the courage to show up at my local Deaf center without knowing any ASL. Thanks, ya'll! Love ya'll! :grouphug:

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And that is so true, BG. Just because one prefer to do things differently as a person with hearing loss some people actually hold that against that person. Not all of us have the same hearing loss or experiences.

And not everyone is suited to be Deaf, because they spend all of their time trying to be hearing. An unfragmented identity as Deaf, or a fragmented identity in "almost hearing". You made the second choice. That doesn't make it healthy.
 
I have been involved with Deaf culture for like 15 years now...I have met thousands of Deaf people. Never met one who wanted to deliberately make their hearing levels detoriate. That's new to me.

Nobody talks about their level of hearing. It is not important in Deaf culture.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. That is a value of hearing culture.
 
And that is so true, BG. Just because one prefer to do things differently as a person with hearing loss some people actually hold that against that person. Not all of us have the same hearing loss or experiences.

Ok...then why the interest in Deaf culture if you have no interest in accepting Deaf culture values?
 
I have been involved with Deaf culture for like 15 years now...I have met thousands of Deaf people. Never met one who wanted to deliberately make their hearing levels detoriate. That's new to me.

Nobody talks about their level of hearing. It is not important in Deaf culture.
Exactly. That is a value of hearing culture.

:laugh2: I don't know about that one, though, hearing people dont tend to talk about their levels of hearing, either. I do see a lot of discussion about hearing levels and audiograms here, though, maybe those posting such things are stepping out a bit on Deaf Culture.
 
FWIW, I spent thousands of dollars out of pocket for fancy new hearing aids. I get some benefit out of them, although it's limited because of recruitment and environmental issues. I don't wear them all of the time. When I do wear my hearing aids, I appreciate having them. I just don't feel the need or desire to hear all of the time.

Also, hearing aids aren't like glasses. You don't just put them on and hear properly. How much hearing aids help depends a lot of factors.
 
:laugh2: I don't know about that one, though, hearing people dont tend to talk about their levels of hearing, either. I do see a lot of discussion about hearing levels and audiograms here, though, maybe those posting such things are stepping out a bit on Deaf Culture.

You see that from people who subscribe to the belief that some hearing is better than no hearing, and in turn, the belief that they must have some hearing to be complete and fulfilled. That is the whole point. In a group of culturally deaf, you might hear discussions of what school one attended, friendships in common, what is going on with their family, where they are going on vacation, etc. All the same stuff you hear the hearies talk about. No discussion of hearing levels.
 
:laugh2: I don't know about that one, though, hearing people dont tend to talk about their levels of hearing, either. I do see a lot of discussion about hearing levels and audiograms here, though, maybe those posting such things are stepping out a bit on Deaf Culture.

This is AD, not Deaf culture. There are different catorgies to talk about different stuff and hearing aids and CIs happen to be one of them.
 
You see that from people who subscribe to the belief that some hearing is better than no hearing, and in turn, the belief that they must have some hearing to be complete and fulfilled. That is the whole point. In a group of culturally deaf, you might hear discussions of what school one attended, friendships in common, what is going on with their family, where they are going on vacation, etc. All the same stuff you hear the hearies talk about. No discussion of hearing levels.

Exactly!
 
That doesn't happen in real life. It happens here because people come seeking help.

We don't talk about hearing levels at Deaf socials BECAUSE WE DON'T TALK. Seriously, it doesn't matter how much you can hear if no one speaks.
 
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