Deaf and mute crap....

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Fb friend Duana with her dog. Duana has a deaf, mute neighbor. The neighbor always looks down when he passes Duana on the street. But when she is with her dog, her dog goes to the neighbor and gives him a dog hug and the neighbor lights up with a big smile and points to the dog!

Yeah, it's nice when dogs do good things, but it hurts to see deaf mute stuffs being written. I guess we get used to it.
 
Derek: Is the person part of the section called-Voice off Deaf?
As you might recall-discussed here in AllDeaf.com.
 
dereksbicycles said:
Ethical Treatment Pit Bulls

Fb friend Duana with her dog. Duana has a deaf, mute neighbor. The neighbor always looks down when he passes Duana on the street. But when she is with her dog, her dog goes to the neighbor and gives him a dog hug and the neighbor lights up with a big smile and points to the dog!

Yeah, it's nice when dogs do good things, but it hurts to see deaf mute stuffs being written. I guess we get used to it.
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What term or phrase would you prefer? (Curious)
 
Personally, I don't like the word "mute".and IMO, it makes it seem the deafie cannot converse at all, even in ASL or written ASL/English.....Hearies assume that "mute" is "dumb"....

If only hearies knew just how intelligent and capable we deafies really are....there have been many times in my life whe I've said "I'm deaf."....and the hearie just flips me off with a hand wave and turns to my son....and I CORRECT that person!....saying that "I'm the adult, not the child, my son is not an intrepretor....and you are not to treat me like a child or a 2nd class citizen!"....

Maybe, in some people's opinion, that was extremely rude....but in my opinion, it was the right thing to do, after being treated this way numerous times.....
 
Would be better to call them "deaf" period. It doesn't mean they're silent. They can be hella loud at times! LOL *droning continues*
 
sequoias said:
Would be better to call them "deaf" period. It doesn't mean they're silent. They can be hella loud at times! LOL *droning continues*
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awwww....shut up, Sequoias! I can hear ya LOL'ing way down here in Florida....
 
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Here's the thing ...

While I totally agree that a newspapaer etc referring to someone as "deaf and mute" is unneccessary, because really 99% of the time "deaf" works just fine.

I DO understand that "mute" as a medical definition is someone who is not only unable to, or unwilling to use spoken language but ALSO unable (physically or emotionally/trauma induced) to produce a sounds/noise (scream,cry, anything) at all.

For example if someone has throat cancer and their voicebox etc is removed, they are "mute".

There are of course a tiny minority of Deaf who are physically unable to speak (I'm not meaning they have difficult to understand speech, I mean they aren't able to produce ANY noise etc due to medical issues or some massive emotional trauma etc)


That all being said, I also think "mute" is leaps and bounds better and more appropriate than the term "dumb", which long before it was an insult which means "stupid", was what we now call "mute".

As a Hoh/Deaf person, I cringe at the "mute" thing, especially when it's written/said in a context which is either presumtuous (ie the reporter ASSuming that all deaf people, or deaf who sign cannot speak) or entirely irrelavent (ie who cares that the person in the article you cited was deaf, let alone deaf AND "mute".
At the same time, I'm also greatful that the ignorant writer didn't use "deaf and dumb" - a phrase which in contemporary articles/reports etc absolutely makes me fume and see red.
 
How do the persons who decide to become "voice off" (can speak) fit the above re: "mute"?
 
drphil said:
How do the persons who decide to become "voice off" (can speak) fit the above re: "mute"?
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"Mute" refers to someone who has a physiological condition which prevents them from being able to form speech or meaningful vocalizations - for example if someone has had a form of cancer or tumour which has required the removal of the voice box, or an injury which paralyses or damages the vocal cords.

In some cases extreme emotional trauma (or physical brain injury) will cause someone to become temporarily mute, because of the way the brain itself has reacted to that trauma.



"voice off" is a choice that someone who is able to from speech-sounds makes.
There are a number of reasons people elect to go "voice off", including:

They have a lot of difficultly producing speech which is clear enough to be understood by family, friends and espeically strangers.

They feel very self-conscious or have been made to feel embarrassed about the way they sound, especially if people have mocked, teased or made generally cruel or unkind comments about their speech.

Situations have repeatedly occurred in which the hoh/d/Deaf person has interacted with hearing people who upon hear their voice decides that the Hoh/d/Deaf person is severely mentally delayed and begins treating them as such, even when told outright that the person's speech is because they are hoh/d/Deaf, not due to any type of "mental defect"

In situations like this - people may decide to go "voice off" either in certain situations, or entirely and instead use text, gesture and sign language to communicate.



I hope that helps?
 
I believe there are comments here in AllDeaf.com about DEAF persons who can speak and "decide" to become "voice off". Ostensibly- one Savor quietness.

I acknowledge one can "decide" to become "voice off" is a free choice one can effect.
What "others construe" of the "voice off" group=interesting to the discussion of "deaf and dumb".

More discussion in Sociology.
 
Deaf Mute means can't speak - can't hear. If you look at the sign for deaf, the movement from mouth toward the ear, basically the sign says deaf-mute, (pointing to mouth and ear) can't speak - can't hear, as you are pointing at both mouth then ear. It's like the sign for hearing, with the words continually rolling out of the mouth of the person. Daf mute goes back 100 + years ...I'm surprised people still use the old terminology.

Pidgin

God Bless the litle children while they are still too young to hate. --- Tom T. Hall
 
Pidgin said:
Deaf Mute means can't speak - can't hear. If you look at the sign for deaf, the movement from mouth toward the ear, basically the sign says deaf-mute, (pointing to mouth and ear) can't speak - can't hear, as you are pointing at both mouth then ear. It's like the sign for hearing, with the words continually rolling out of the mouth of the person. Daf mute goes back 100 + years ...I'm surprised people still use the old terminology.

Pidgin

God Bless the litle children while they are still too young to hate. --- Tom T. Hall
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Pidgin said:
Deaf Mute means can't speak - can't hear. If you look at the sign for deaf, the movement from mouth toward the ear, basically the sign says deaf-mute, (pointing to mouth and ear) can't speak - can't hear, as you are pointing at both mouth then ear. It's like the sign for hearing, with the words continually rolling out of the mouth of the person. Daf mute goes back 100 + years ...I'm surprised people still use the old terminology.

Pidgin

God Bless the litle children while they are still too young to hate. --- Tom T. Hall
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Really? Tell me more!!!
 
Pidgin is my screen name ... it's what I know and who I am.

Is DrPhil part of ASL ??

Pidgin

God Bless the little children while they are still too young to hate. -- Tom T. Hall
 
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