Daily Limitations

[StSapphire]

one "could" say the same questions asked about deaf/Deaf are "dumb"...

meant to get someone thinking outside the box, if they allow themselves to without judgment
it's a matter of re-framing....

Hah, I think you may have misunderstood what I was saying - my point was that the second question, when asked to a d/Deaf person is also a dumb question, because it doesn't make sense, no matter who you ask it to.

 

[rolling7]

Hey katz4life...good for you but not all deaf live in your city and have the advantage you have. So give me a break. Go back and read my post and re-read yours too. You said "under 30 seconds" and I said "sit-down dinner". No way in the worl anyone, hearing nor deaf, can get service in 30 seconds at the places I am speaking of. So give me a break, and read better.

 

[SneakerNet]

I would say Deaf get limited in education.

 

[Miss-Delectable]

We're limited whenever we cannot hear the PA that might pertains important information. such at train station or airport.

They could have typed out the announcements.

I guess it can be limiting when deaf people are the last to find out about events and such.

 

[jillio]

We're limited whenever we cannot hear the PA that might pertains important information. such at train station or airport.

They could have typed out the announcements.

I guess it can be limiting when deaf people are the last to find out about events and such.

Yep, once again the responsibility of an audist society.

 

[dogmom]

Miss D.'s reply reminds me of the scene in "See What I'm Saying" where CJ is waiting and waiting at the airport.....

 

[sequoias]

Wirelessly posted (sent from a smartphone. )

Deaf are limited at the movies. Hearing can go any day/time listed but the deaf either can't find caption or must go at a special time.

Really?? Oh, please. Not to me, it's unlimited. Every 3-4 days of different and new OCC movies daily since 2004 in my home area...no problem! I got a feeling someday in near future movie theaters will be out of business due to low enrollment of attendees because of ridicilously rising prices for one ticket, the cost for ticket which is nearly equals to a new release DVD movie at any stores.

Deaf get limited service at a sit-down dinner. This is due to the fact that a server knows he/she will have to spend extra time with the deaf understanding the need. So he/she wont come around to the table as often as going to the table of hearing.

Nope, I do it quicker under 30 seconds. It ain't hard to just point my order on the menu for a server to read.

OC isnt available anywhere in the US, only available in a strong deaf community where you live.

Yep agreed abt waiter communication.

 

[BecLak]

We're limited whenever we cannot hear the PA that might pertains important information. such at train station or airport.

They could have typed out the announcements.

I guess it can be limiting when deaf people are the last to find out about events and such.

I like what they do in Norway on trains (I visited there last year). They have the stations announced and on ticker-tape screen. Councils everywhere should have those installed in all public places IMO

 

[Daredevel7]

Yep, once again the responsibility of an audist society.

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On the other hand, if they simply showed it onscreen somewhere, can't someone say "omg, what a vision-ist society"?

In fact, sometimes it can be. In my workplace, we deal with a lot of graphs, and people would say something like "Look at this graph, see how it implies that this choice is undesirable?". A blind person would have no idea what he is talking about.

Sometimes I think people automatically assume that a society is "out to get them". To me, calling this an "audist" society isn't deserved. Some of the things that are "audist" such as announcing the times, etc, doesn't come from ignorance, but rather from catering to the majority. The most accessible friendly product or place will STILL piss off at least one person.

 

[StSapphire]

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On the other hand, if they simply showed it onscreen somewhere, can't someone say "omg, what a vision-ist society"?

In fact, sometimes it can be. In my workplace, we deal with a lot of graphs, and people would say something like "Look at this graph, see how it implies that this choice is undesirable?". A blind person would have no idea what he is talking about.

Sometimes I think people automatically assume that a society is "out to get them". To me, calling this an "audist" society isn't deserved. Some of the things that are "audist" such as announcing the times, etc, doesn't come from ignorance, but rather from catering to the majority. The most accessible friendly product or place will STILL piss off at least one person.

Ideally, both options would be available.

 

[jillio]

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On the other hand, if they simply showed it onscreen somewhere, can't someone say "omg, what a vision-ist society"?

In fact, sometimes it can be. In my workplace, we deal with a lot of graphs, and people would say something like "Look at this graph, see how it implies that this choice is undesirable?". A blind person would have no idea what he is talking about.

Sometimes I think people automatically assume that a society is "out to get them". To me, calling this an "audist" society isn't deserved. Some of the things that are "audist" such as announcing the times, etc, doesn't come from ignorance, but rather from catering to the majority. The most accessible friendly product or place will STILL piss off at least one person.

I'm talking about a combination of auditory and visual. Nothing wrong with that, and satisfies the needs of everyone. IMO, it is really quite simple. It is that dicotomous, one or the other, thinking that creates the problems.

This is an audist society, plain and simple. Anytime the word "audist" is used, someone immediately applies a negative connotation, rather than simply accepting it for the descriptive that it is. This society functions on auditory principles first and foremost. It is audist.

 

[KristinaB]

Ideally, both options would be available.

I know at the local Social Security office, the tag office and the driver's license office we have both a verbal announcement and a visual display of the ticket number that is being called. That's the only way I can go to those offices alone.

 

[StSapphire]

I know at the local Social Security office, the tag office and the driver's license office we have both a verbal announcement and a visual display of the ticket number that is being called. That's the only way I can go to those offices alone.

Heck, I'm hearing and I'd prefer that. Often times if I'm with someone, I might be having a conversation and am unable to hear much of anything in the background, or if it's really busy, all I can hear is the din of everyone else in the place talking, which makes hearing any one thing in particular difficult.

 

[Daredevel7]

I'm talking about a combination of auditory and visual. Nothing wrong with that, and satisfies the needs of everyone. IMO, it is really quite simple. It is that dicotomous, one or the other, thinking that creates the problems.

This is an audist society, plain and simple. Anytime the word "audist" is used, someone immediately applies a negative connotation, rather than simply accepting it for the descriptive that it is. This society functions on auditory principles first and foremost. It is audist.

It's just that if you're gonna call that specific event audist, then there's a hell lot of things that are audist (and whatever-ist). Almost to the point where you just have to roll your eyes. I am not talking about obvious things like movies with no CC, trains/airlines verbalizing "Boarding" with no visualization, etc. I am talking about stuff that no one thinks about because it hasn't bothered them (YET). For example, an astronaut has a really difficult time moving around his arms in his suit because it's stiffened by the internal pressure. So a deaf astronaut cannot do sign language easily. Especially with those thick gloves! AUDIST!

See what I mean? To me, labeling things "audist" doesn't do jack squat. Offering solutions does.

 

[jillio]

It's just that if you're gonna call that specific event audist, then there's a hell lot of things that are audist (and whatever-ist). Almost to the point where you just have to roll your eyes. I am not talking about obvious things like movies with no CC, trains/airlines verbalizing "Boarding" with no visualization, etc. I am talking about stuff that no one thinks about because it hasn't bothered them (YET). For example, an astronaut has a really difficult time moving around his arms in his suit because it's stiffened by the internal pressure. So a deaf astronaut cannot do sign language easily. Especially with those thick gloves! AUDIST!

See what I mean? To me, labeling things "audist" doesn't do jack squat. Offering solutions does.

Yeah, there are a lot of things that are audist.

 

[shel90]

The movies are true, and there is no reason they could not be all OC. It does not take up much space and they put them on the DVD anyway.

Here all we have is RWC and it is actually annoying.

I just wait for DVD and I won't catch bedbugs, which is the latest warning here for people attending the movie theater.

Really that is not a big disadvantage. Plus the dogs like to watch with me and my husband and have some pizza.

If there are bedbugs at the movie theaters, then I will not step in another one. I dont need a repeat of my 6 month nightmare with them!!!

 

[shel90]

Deaf are limited at the movies. Hearing can go any day/time listed but the deaf either can't find caption or must go at a special time.

Deaf get limited service at a sit-down dinner. This is due to the fact that a server knows he/she will have to spend extra time with the deaf understanding the need. So he/she wont come around to the table as often as going to the table of hearing.

If you want, I can think of a few more

Limited because of hearing people, not because of our deafness.

 

[shel90]

Hey katz4life...good for you but not all deaf live in your city and have the advantage you have. So give me a break. Go back and read my post and re-read yours too. You said "under 30 seconds" and I said "sit-down dinner". No way in the worl anyone, hearing nor deaf, can get service in 30 seconds at the places I am speaking of. So give me a break, and read better.

That's hearing people's discrimination and they are the ones who are causing the problems, not your deafness. Hope that helps!

 

[deafskeptic]

I know at the local Social Security office, the tag office and the driver's license office we have both a verbal announcement and a visual display of the ticket number that is being called. That's the only way I can go to those offices alone.

Yep. My parents had a difficult time - epecially my dad - understanding that the signs at DMV were visual displays and that I didn't need their help in knowing when my ticket was up.