Court of public opinion looms large in George Zimmerman murder trial

TXgolfer said:
More than a "trace."
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again... "maybe.... maybe not"

not a concrete fact. as Reba posted before in this thread about him - he has done quite a shoddy forensic work.

Reba said:
Dr. Bao's testimony about the medical exam of Martin is very strange.

First, he was reading his testimony directly from notes, not memory. He got caught doing that, which required a recess while the court made copies of his notes for both legal teams. Supposedly, this ME has testified in many court cases, yet he tried to break the rules for expert testimony.

Also, he said that Martiin's hands were not bagged, and that the fingernail swabs were taken with one stick for all five fingers on each hand.

He wasn't sure of the lab protocols, and said it didn't concern him.

The lab took no pictures of Martin's palms.

The doctor didn't know for sure who did the lab tests for the toxicology, or how they were done.

This doctor seems very unaware, and uncooperative. The judge has to continuously admonish him on the way he replies to the lawyers. He's very defensive and argumentative.

I'm almost wondering why the prosecution put him on the stand. Very weird.
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TM wore a hoodie. That's nothing wrong. What's more, it was raining that night. GZ suspected that he could be a burglar because of the way he acted. TM did nothing wrong and took his time walking home but he started to get pissed when he saw GZ observing him in which GZ had rights to do so. Afterwards, TM ****ed it up unfortunately.

Anyway, USPS where I work doesn't allow an underwear exposed and hood pulled up (even braless for women is not allowed) since it's a business.
 
Steinhauer said:
high enough for Zimmerman to have noticed apparently.
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so was there any drug found on Trayvon? was he committing any crime? was there a conclusive medical test to determine the exact amount of THC in his bloodstream?
 
Jiro said:
again... "maybe.... maybe not"

not a concrete fact. as Reba posted before in this thread about him - he has done quite a shoddy forensic work.
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So, then this is not a fact. That is the point. :)


incorrect. medical examiner testified that there was a "trace" amount. no evidence that he was high.
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Jiro said:
so was there any drug found on Trayvon? was he committing any crime? was there a conclusive medical test to determine the exact amount of THC in his bloodstream?
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He committed assault and battery.

I do not know if there was a medical test done that determined exactly how much THC was in his system. The fact that there was more than a trace gives a general idea of how much was in his system. A trace of THC is enough to make anyone high. Have you ever heard of a "contact buzz"?
 
Jiro said:
again... "maybe.... maybe not"

not a concrete fact. as Reba posted before in this thread about him - he has done quite a shoddy forensic work.
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Didn't you notice that TM swayed back and forth at the 7-11 store in the video? That was a sign of being high. I bet Dr. Bao saw it, too.
 
Steinhauer said:
He committed assault and battery.
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where? who?

Steinhauer said:
I do not know if there was a medical test done that determined exactly how much THC was in his system. The fact that there was more than a trace gives a general idea of how much was in his system. A trace of THC is enough to make anyone high. Have you ever heard of a "contact buzz"?
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did you read Reba's post?

the medical examiner did a sloppy work. police did a sloppy work. prosecutors did a sloppy work. therefore - Zimmerman got acquitted because the state failed its job... not because Zimmerman was right.
 
CrazyPaul said:
Didn't you notice that TM swayed back and forth at the 7-11 store in the video? That was a sign of being high. I bet Dr. Bao saw it, too.
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Dr. Bao is not supposed to make a judgement based on the video.. he's supposed to get a medical proof and he failed to do so thoroughly. all he got was a "trace" amount. his testimony was sloppy too.
 
Jiro said:
therefore.... you're not sure. and neither was he.
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I AM sure that Dr. Bao said the level could affect behavior. That indicates there was more than a "trace." His behavior in the video also appears to show Trayvon had more than a "trace"

*shrug*
 
Jiro said:
Dr. Bao is not supposed to make a judgement based on the video.. he's supposed to get a medical proof and he failed to do so thoroughly. all he got was a "trace" amount. his testimony was sloppy too.
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Unfortunately, the defense didn't present the evidence in the court (I thought it was allowed by the judge later on) but one day we will find out somehow.

It depends on how good the weed he smoked was. I had smoked Angel Dust a long time ago. Oh boy, after two puffs, I was so ****ing stoned. That was a good shit. What a ****ing good memory! :naughty:
 
TXgolfer said:
I AM sure that Dr. Bao said the level could affect behavior. That indicates there was more than a "trace." His behavior in the video also appears to show Trayvon had more than a "trace"

*shrug*
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sounds like a general medical statement.... not a specific medical evidence.
 
Zimmerman book dies after Twitter campaign - CNN.com
(CNN) -- A woman known as Juror B37 thought writing an anonymous book about her experiences on the George Zimmerman trial was a good idea.

Many people, including a powerful and tireless group of outraged Twitter users, thought otherwise.

News reports surfaced Monday morning that the woman, who gave an exclusive interview that night with CNN's Anderson Cooper about her experiences on the six-woman Zimmerman jury, had signed with a literary agent and was working on a book proposal about the trial. The agent was identified as Sharlene Martin, who has worked on such other post-trial tomes as O.J. Simpson's "If I Did It" and Mary Jo Buttafuoco's "Getting It Through My Thick Skull."

Then came the Twitter backlash, led by 29-year-old New Yorker Genie Lauren, who goes by @MoreAndAgain on Twitter. Lauren saw the juror's interview on CNN and decided to take action.

"I was angry and I didn't think it was right that someone would make money off of this tragedy -- especially after they let Zimmerman go free," she told NewsOne.

Lauren tracked down contact information for Martin, including her Twitter handle, e-mail address, mailing address and phone number, and posted it on the social network and on Storify, which displays social media posts in a blog-like stream. She then asked her followers to write Martin and urge her to drop B37 as a client.

Next she launched a Change.org petition with the title, "Sharlene Martin: Drop Juror B37 from Martin Literary Management," which quickly hit 1,346 signatures.

Immediately, people began venting on Twitter and contacting Martin. In a matter of hours, Martin announced late Monday afternoon that she and the juror were no longer moving ahead with the book.

In a statement released by Martin, the juror said, in part, "I have realized the best direction for me to go is away from writing any sort of book and return instead to my life as it was before I was called to sit on this jury."

She elaborated in a statement Wednesday to CNN, saying, "There was an agreement with a literary agent to explore the concept of a book which discussed the impact of sequestration on my perceptions of this serious case, while being compared to the perceptions of an attorney who was closely following the trial from outside the 'bubble.'

"The relationship with the agent ceased the moment I realized what had been occurring in the world during the weeks of my sequestration," she said.

The quick death of the proposed book startled even those familiar with the power of well-orchestrated social media campaigns to sway public opinion and influence business decisions.

It appears that Martin has since deleted her main Twitter account. And Monday, the number of Lauren's

Twitter followers has jumped from 1,600 to more than 9,100. A thank-you tweet from The Roots' @questlove probably didn't hurt.

"I definitely believe in the power of Twitter. I'm in shock, really, about the whole thing," Lauren told ABC News. "I'm glad that people didn't brush it off and just say, 'Oh, it's just Twitter, and ... nothing will come of this.' "
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Jiro said:
teen or adult - still suspicious.
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If he behaves in a suspicious manner.

Aside: Bill Cosby has been wearing college sweatshirts for decades, some with hoods, some without. That was his trademark on the Bill Cosby show.

Note: Not everyone wearing a hoodie is a criminal but many criminals use the hood to somewhat hide their appearance. Unfortunately, that has given hoodies a bad rap, same as ski masks or big sunglasses.
 
Foxrac said:
There were no hip hop, skateboard, punk and gothic in 1960's.

Not until 70's or 80's, became mainstream in 90's.
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During the 60's there were counter-culture styles. There were beatniks and then hippies. Dr. King didn't dress like a flower child with a 'fro and beads. There was also the British rock invasion with the styles of the Mods and Rockers.

There most definitely were skateboards during the '60's. I bought my first one by 1965.
 
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