Combs to Pay $21,000 a Month Child Support

[Tousi]

Well, Cjanik, ya gotta remember these are high paid celebrities. That kind of money per month would be like me paying 400 bucks a month child support. The courts award the amount based on earnings, etc, etc and in this case, the ex-wife is used to a certain LEVEL of lifestyle and will be awarded these amounts based on the ex's earnings. It is all proportional; I am not impressed with 25 K per month, etc because it is proportional, fair, and legal to what the ex is earning.

 

[Cheri]

greedy is when they are taking 21,000 dollars a month.

there's people who dont even make that much per year!!

at 21,000 a month, she'd be making 242,000 a year!!! she doesnt have to work for the rest of her life! thats not a "child" support, thats a living!

I am not saying I agree with the 21,000 a month I think that was way too much. Child support should be spilt in both ways included medical, daycare, clothing, shelter, food and etc., But you also have to remember that the mother is caring for the child most of the time than the father is. [That's depends who has custody of the child.]

But, when you brought up your mother who doesn't want anything because she didn't want to be greedy she isn't going to look greedy. They can agree on the amount together if they would like and go through court with the agreement.

 

[Cheri]

Well, Cjanik, ya gotta remember these are high paid celebrities. That kind of money per month would be like me paying 400 bucks a month child support. The courts award the amount based on earnings, etc, etc and in this case, the ex-wife is used to a certain LEVEL of lifestyle and will be awarded these amounts based on the ex's earnings. It is all proportional; I am not impressed with 25 K per month, etc because it is proportional, fair, and legal to what the ex is earning.

That's correct

 

[DeafVeggie]

greedy is when they are taking 21,000 dollars a month.

there's people who dont even make that much per year!!

at 21,000 a month, she'd be making 242,000 a year!!! she doesnt have to work for the rest of her life! thats not a "child" support, thats a living!

BINGO!

After a father dies in the auto accident, his CS stops. How would she be able to receive the CS? This is why I am much rather for her child to be placed in the "well-to-do" adoption family because they have a family life insurance if anything happens to the "bread-winner". Family Life insurance policy does not recognize a father who gives CS to the natural mother for his child when both are seperated and live in different life! Does the natural mother knows about that? No, she is too busy flashing her $$$$ sign in her eyes from his CS. :thumbd:

~DV

 

[tekkmortal]

The Rich and famous child support!

Most child supports are not that much.

 

[Opal]

Whatever the natural mother changes the attitude toward the natural father to keep the child away out of sight, that's why there is a father's rights organization in "Down Under" to get in line with the child...

http://www.lonefathers.com.au/about.html

But, why is it necessary for those people to go thru those crap emotional drains? I have been reading those issues in the newspapers and can't seems to get the picture of it why all this happening in this world. It is because when they make love, they had a fun time. When it comes to child issue, everything changes (removing the face masks) to go after the fathers to go hell. That's what happened to my younger brother! He has been living in hell.

I'll give a vivid imganiation: A child and father just like a toothbrush. Once you used up the old toothbrush, you toss it out and get a new toothbrush. A natural mother just toss out old "father" and get a new "child". Consider a child like a "replacement" of the father. I think it's nuts out there! I thought once they make love, then they can enjoy having family together. But, it's just destroying the family, demanding CS, and kick the father out of sight away from the child.

One thought came to mind what happened to the child's equal opportunity when you were little back then? It's not painting a pretty fair for the child to go through of what we didn't go through back then. Sad!


~DV

My neighbour just had a 2nd baby, her husband left her for another woman, and she was alone bring up 2 children until she met a new man and they got engaged to be married. His job transfer him to Perth, West Australia, and her ex-husband object to this offer knowing his visiting access right will be difficult because of the huge distances between here Melbourne to Perth, he took her to child custody court to stop it, but she won and took their two children with her to Perth to start a new life with her fiance!!

Perth is 3 hour plane trip from here same as from NY to California!! I am surprised they allow her to move interstate, as I feel sorry for her ex's as it will cost him a fortune if he want to see his children, plane trip etc. I question why and was told job is more important than claiming single mother pension!!!

 

[DeafVeggie]

My neighbour just had a 2nd baby, her husband left her for another woman, and she was alone bring up 2 children until she met a new man and they got engaged to be married. His job transfer him to Perth, West Australia, and her ex-husband object to this offer knowing his visiting access right will be difficult because of the huge distances between here Melbourne to Perth, he took her to child custody court to stop it, but she won and took their two children with her to Perth to start a new life with her fiance!!

Perth is 3 hour plane trip from here same as from NY to California!! I am surprised they allow her to move interstate, as I feel sorry for her ex's as it will cost him a fortune if he want to see his children, plane trip etc. I question why and was told job is more important than claiming single mother pension!!!

In other words, she started a new life with her fiance and then, the court granted the ex not to pay her the CS at all because of huge distance??? I always thought that the Court requires every parents to make a CS resolution for the child's sake. There is no such thing that the ex can get away from CS, unless he's in jail and broke.

~DV

 

[Opal]

Her ex husband MUST pay for her two children child support allowance he seldom see them because of the vast distance.

If he want to see his children, he will fork out his money for their transport or he flying over there plus hotel accommadation etc. It is wrong to me.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Every countries have different law systems.

 

[ITPjohn]

The Rich and famous child support!

I understand that the mother should be able to raise a child in the way that SHE is accustomed to and that $21k/month may be peanuts for P. Diddy, but please tell me why it takes that much to raise ONE child.

There are others here in South TX raising ENTIRE families on less than that a year.

 

[DeafVeggie]

Her ex husband MUST pay for her two children child support allowance he seldom see them because of the vast distance.

If he want to see his children, he will fork out his money for their transport or he flying over there plus hotel accommadation etc. It is wrong to me.

I seconded that!

You see, the whole concept here is that if she marries to her new fiance and kept two children away from her ex. Then, the children will always look up to the new fiance thinking that he is their "father". In other words, once he marries her means that she loves him so to her children loves him, too. That's what a marriage is all about. Meanwhile, the fiance is laughing all the way to the bank from her ex! Know why? The fiance doesn't have to pay a dime of raising her children EVEN they live with him. THAT'S CRAZY!

After the fiance marries her and LIVES with her children, then he is the one who should be a "family man" of taking care of her and her children. That includes finanical obligation to support her and her children! At this point, he should instantly adopts her children. I see here that he doesn't want to deal with adoption and wants to continue collecting CS indirectly from her ex as a supplemental to his family budget. In that view, he sees CS as a great dirty "gold mine". It must ends the CS abuse once she marries to someone else!

BTW, Perth to Melbourne is an equivalent distance as CA to GA in USA. So, it is about 5 hours plane trip.

~DV

 

[Cheri]

I seconded that!

You see, the whole concept here is that if she marries to her new fiance and kept two children away from her ex. Then, the children will always look up to the new fiance thinking that he is their "father". In other words, once he marries her means that she loves him so to her children loves him, too. That's what a marriage is all about. Meanwhile, the fiance is laughing all the way to the bank from her ex! Know why? The fiance doesn't have to pay a dime of raising her children EVEN they live with him. THAT'S CRAZY!

After the fiance marries her and LIVES with her children, then he is the one who should be a "family man" of taking care of her and her children. That includes finanical obligation to support her and her children! At this point, he should instantly adopts her children. I see here that he doesn't want to deal with adoption and wants to continue collecting CS indirectly from her ex as a supplemental to his family budget. In that view, he sees CS as a great dirty "gold mine". It must ends the CS abuse once she marries to someone else!

BTW, Perth to Melbourne is an equivalent distance as CA to GA in USA. So, it is about 5 hours plane trip.

~DV

No, He cannot adopts someone else's children unless the non-custodial parent (Father) gives up his rights. Even if she remarried, The step-father is not their father and it's not his responsibility to support the children. If he wants to support the children He can but, he is not required to. My sister would know more about remarried and if the non-custodial father would still pay child support if the mother is remarried. Because she is divorce herself.

 

[DeafVeggie]

No, He cannot adopts someone else's children unless the non-custodial parent (Father) gives up his rights. Even if she remarried, The step-father is not their father and it's not his responsibility to support the children. If he wants to support the children He can but, he is not required to. My sister would know more about remarried and if the non-custodial father would still pay child support if the mother is remarried. Because she is divorce herself.

Are you saying that it is OK for the step-father not to have a financial support to the non-biological kids who live with him when he marries to their mother????? I think it is an absurd. It sounds to me like a step-father has more loving attention to the mother and negligence to her kids? Before he proposed her an engagement ring, I am pretty sure that both of them have talked about having kids or raising a family. She would ask him if he would like to have her existing kids in the house so that he can have a "family man and husband" position title automatically. Well, I am at loss on this matter because it doesn't add-up to make any sense when there is another man in the house who is living and raising with the kids. It is not to be confused with a "baby-sitter" position title. Whoever is living and raising kids are the one who obligates to clothes and feed them. Kids needs a good parental role from them and establishes a good family pattern. No offend, Cheri....your quote does not pursue it, but to collect $$$$ from the ex.

It is my understanding that Courts do not waive father's rights at his own request. The Court must find him being unfit such as sending him to prison for a long time, abusive to kids, etc. If he is very kind gentle person, the Courts will force him to cough up for the CS, even she is married to someone else. If he really wants to give up his father's rights and don't want to see his kids anymore, the mother must agree with him. If she doesn't simply agree with him, consider her as a cruel and unnecessary punishment...and, of course wants his $$$$ to add some extra spending spree for herself and her family. See, money is the root of all evil!

The bottom line is that after the step-father marries her, he would need to be the family man and husband for her and her kids. Again, that's what the marriage is all about to enjoy the fullest in every woven threads among them (step-father, mother, & the kids) in one big family. But, it is not happening because the real father is still in the same family picture because of CS when he wishes to be an invisible (i.e. no CS & giving up his father's rights).

~DV

 

[netrox]

at 21,000 a month, she'd be making 242,000 a year!!! she doesnt have to work for the rest of her life! thats not a "child" support, thats a living!

EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS!

They are not really for children, it's for mothers. Its the gold digging mothers who want lots of money so they can live like the rich, not because of their kids. Kids don't need that much money at all.

-jeff

 

[netrox]

The courts award the amount based on earnings, etc, etc and in this case, the ex-wife is used to a certain LEVEL of lifestyle and will be awarded these amounts based on the ex's earnings.

That's a myth - the women does not need the affluent lifestyle at all (once again, it shows it's all about women, not children). There are many millionaires out there but they're living the humble way and they don't spoil their kids like that. The father MUST be responsible for his children but $21K a month? Get real.

-jeff

 

[DeafVeggie]

EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS!

They are not really for children, it's for mothers. Its the gold digging mothers who want lots of money so they can live like the rich, not because of their kids. Kids don't need that much money at all.

-jeff

B I N G O

Once there is an advantage of using CS system, the mothers don't care about the kids --- just want the money!!! In my previous posting #33, money is the root of all evil!

~DV

 

[Cheri]

Are you saying that it is OK for the step-father not to have a financial support to the non-biological kids who live with him when he marries to their mother?????

I did not said that he should not financial support the kids and his future wife, But you making it sounds like he can step in and replace their father. He cannot do that.

It sounds to me like a step-father has more loving attention to the mother and negligence to her kids?

Don't put words in my mouth, If you don't understand just ask, Of course when the mother already have kids of her own if she met someone, he knows that the only way to get her is to accept the children too it comes in one whole package, meaning If he loves the mother he would also loves the children too.

It is my understanding that Courts do not waive father's rights at his own request. The Court must find him being unfit such as sending him to prison for a long time, abusive to kids, etc. If he is very kind gentle person, the Courts will force him to cough up for the CS, even she is married to someone else.

It is not true, If that father hasn't been around to see his own children and doesn't want to he can give up his rights. I'm sorry you wrong about that because I am a single mother I know all about child support and how their system works.

If he really wants to give up his father's rights and don't want to see his kids anymore, the mother must agree with him. If she doesn't simply agree with him, consider her as a cruel and unnecessary punishment...and, of course wants his $$$$ to add some extra spending spree for herself and her family. See, money is the root of all evil!

I would not call that cruel or unnecessary punishment, You have to understand It takes two to bring a child in the world not one. And why is it everytime you making it sounds like the mothers are so greeding going after child support well fathers aren't a free rider. Fathers must pay child support period!

The bottom line is that after the step-father marries her, he would need to be the family man and husband for her and her kids. Again, that's what the marriage is all about to enjoy the fullest in every woven threads among them (step-father, mother, & the kids) in one big family. But, it is not happening because the real father is still in the same family picture because of CS when he wishes to be an invisible (i.e. no CS & giving up his father's rights).~DV

Of Course he should be a family man to her when he marry her he married her children too, But that doesn't mean he has the right to adopt her children, when the children already have a father out there, You cannot replace the children's father. Just because someone remarries that doesn't mean the father should be cut out of their lives.

 

[Opal]

http://www.mensrights.com.au/index.php?article_id=90

My neighbour's single mother payment will stop if she married again, her ex husband will continue to pay for their children's child support (because he is their blood and flesh) until

(a) her 2nd husband want to adopt the children
(b) coming of age - 16 - some agreement for schooling fees etc.
(c) deceased.

Single mother pension is similar as SSI they can't go to work because of underage children and stay home housewife/homeduties without a partner to support her, similiar as widow pension. If she has a husband living with her she can't claim single mother pension, if caught, she will go to jail for fraud.

 

[DeafVeggie]

I did not said that he should not financial support the kids and his future wife, But you making it sounds like he can step in and replace their father. He cannot do that.

Noted...

Don't put words in my mouth, If you don't understand just ask, Of course when the mother already have kids of her own if she met someone, he knows that the only way to get her is to accept the children too it comes in one whole package, meaning If he loves the mother he would also loves the children too.

Noted...

It is not true, If that father hasn't been around to see his own children and doesn't want to he can give up his rights. I'm sorry you wrong about that because I am a single mother I know all about child support and how their system works.

Even though you know the system, you are still wrong on that issue. I already communicated with few attorneys who specialized in Family Law several years ago. All they said, you can't do that. You must abide the law. So, please double-check with your attorney.

I would not call that cruel or unnecessary punishment, You have to understand It takes two to bring a child in the world not one. And why is it everytime you making it sounds like the mothers are so greeding going after child support well fathers aren't a free rider. Fathers must pay child support period!

I am speaking of a gal who had the desperation to attract a guy like a fly who gave her the "seed". Once she found to be pregnant after many tries, she attempted to do everything in her power to keep the baby for good. Well, if she wants to keep the baby, let her pay the cost of raising the child. Like car. If she wants to keep the car, she pays for the car payment, insurance, etc. Alternatively, she could have donate her baby, at the request of natural father, to a worthy cause such as adoption origanzation where they have many childless married couples who would love to raise the child at their own expenses. Please tell me what's wrong with this picture, if any?

Of Course he should be a family man to her when he marry her he married her children too, But that doesn't mean he has the right to adopt her children, when the children already have a father out there, You cannot replace the children's father. Just because someone remarries that doesn't mean the father should be cut out of their lives.

Bi-fathers are ok???

~DV

 

[DeafVeggie]

My neighbour's single mother payment will stop if she married again, her ex husband will continue to pay for their children's child support (because he is their blood and flesh) until

(a) her 2nd husband want to adopt the children
(b) coming of age - 16 - some agreement for schooling fees etc.
(c) deceased.

About c. I have read several articles in the past that immediately after the Courts ordered the fathers to pay up the CS, they just committed suicides. Hence, deceased on the record. Some of them were having financial hardship and couldn't pay the minimum mandatory requirement of CS. Jailing won't do anything good to help the fathers so they just ended up their life for good. I felt very sorry for those victims of CS!

Like I said in earlier postings, money is the root of all evil

~DV