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Deaffy said:
kudo's for you to make that decision for YOUR child. But some of these parent's on the board are making decision's for THEIR child not your's. Where do you have the right to tell them their decision is wrong? When I or some of the others here never said anything about your decision. Not everyone has the same views as you do. This is what gets me. These parents are doing what they feel is right for their child. Mind you that child will always be deaf regardless of CI or not and that child will also have the ability to learn ASL if he/she so chooses.
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And they are perfectly entitled to make that decision. But actually, what I did was provide my son with the skills that allowed him to make his own decision. The deafness is his, it is up to him to determine how he wants to live with it.

I did not tell anyone their decision was wrong. Why are you so defensive? I am merely pointing out issues involved in the decision.

Good intentions don't necessasarily get good results. I have always said that these parents are doing what they think is best. But, in reality, that is part of the problem.
 
Anyway's i'm done here with this conversation. We have derailed from the OP. It just struck me as plain out rude for you to make a sarcastic remark about the CI when it had absoulutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. The Op came here seeking help with his CI not a debate about children getting CI's. Which was your sadistic post poking fun at parents who do choose to do so.
 
jillio said:
I'm talking about physical pain. The pain you feel from isolation is not a direct result of the deafness, but of the way hearing society treats those who are deaf.

I have spent 24 years learning to walk in the shoes of the deaf, both from direct and indirect experience. And everything I have learned shows me that deafness is not the culprit. One can lead a perfectly productive, happy, satisfying life with no hearing. It is the way one perceives themselves as a result of that deafness, and the obstacles that society places in the way. There are still many more deaf in this world without CI than with CI. ?
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:wave: I am not in pain.
 
Deaffy said:
Anyway's i'm done here with this conversation. We have derailed from the OP. It just struck me as plain out rude for you to make a sarcastic remark about the CI when it had absoulutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. The Op came here seeking help with his CI not a debate about children getting CI's. Which was your sadistic post poking fun at parents who do choose to do so.
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Uhhh...I wasn't being sarcastic. The descriptions posted on here of the surgery and the after effects don't make me want to run out and put any child through that kind of torture. Certainly not when it isn't necessary.
 
jillio said:
Yeah, I know. **smile**. And the kind of pain Deaffy is talking about sure isn't helped with a CI.
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I know. *just an annoying butting in* I just want to be included that I was born deaf and use ASL all my life. I do not feel any lonely or isoleted or in pain at all. I have a life like everyone have one.

Of course, I do not have a CI.

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jillio said:
Yeah, I know. **smile**. And the kind of pain Deaffy is talking about sure isn't helped with a CI.
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I'm pretty sure I dont feel the same load of stress and sadness I felt pre-CI.
 
jillio said:
Uhhh...I wasn't being sarcastic. The descriptions posted on here of the surgery and the after effects don't make me want to run out and put any child through that kind of torture. Certainly not when it isn't necessary.
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Lol yeah the surgery is pure torture haha. K
 
Deaffy said:
I'm pretty sure I dont feel the same load of stress and sadness I felt pre-CI.
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That doesn't have anything to do with deafness, but of your perception of your deafness.
 
Deaffy said:
Lol yeah the surgery is pure torture haha. K
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Have you read the descriptions? Like I said, the pain and the risk may be worth it to you, but that is based on your perception of deafness. Others see no reason to put themselves through something like that when it is completely unnecessary to living a full and happy life. Some don't let their deafness restrict them, some do. Those that do generally will opt for a CI.
 
Has everything to do with deafness. I wasnt always deaf and never felt the way I felt when I lost my hearing. If i never had lost my hearing I would never had felt the way I did. how can you state its not a result of deafness..
 
Deaffy said:
Has everything to do with deafness. I wasnt always deaf and never felt the way I felt when I lost my hearing. If i never had lost my hearing I would never had felt the way I did. how can you state its not a result of deafness..
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You just explained exactly what I have been saying all along. You see deafness as a loss. Many don't. They see no need to replace something they haven't lost.

You are focusing on the negative. Deafness doesn't create that attitude. You do with your perception of deafness. You see it as "less than".
 
You take a risk walking out your door every time. The pain was nothing more than what a ear infection feels like. It really is not as bad as what you make it out to be. I guess your scare tactics work for some!
 
Deaffy said:
You take a risk walking out your door every time. The pain was nothing more than what a ear infection feels like. It really is not as bad as what you make it out to be. I guess your scare tactics work for some!
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That is a necessary risk. One cannot live a full life locked in one's home. One can live a full life without a CI.

Perhaps not to you. But you are not a 1 year old child who looks to mom and dad to make pain go away, not as people that put them in situations that cause pain.

I'm not trying to scare anyone. I didn't write the posts about drilling into skulls and peeling tissue back. People who have had CIs wrote that.:cool2:
 
Ok so it's not a loss? I wanted to join the armed forces but am restricted to because of regulations due to my hearing loss. How is that not feeling LESS THAN! sure society places these feelings upon some of us. That doesnt change the fact that its not a direct result of being deaf.
 
Yes and having a metal rod placed in ones leg to be able to walk is any less painfull than a CI right? ohh and you can live a full productive life in a wheelchair also. But if your child needed his leg repaired you would wouldnt you?
 
Deaffy said:
Has everything to do with deafness. I wasnt always deaf and never felt the way I felt when I lost my hearing. If i never had lost my hearing I would never had felt the way I did. how can you state its not a result of deafness..
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Your friends turned away from you??? Oh yeah, thats because of deafness...


But really... Its because of them being fake friends.
 
Deaffy said:
Ok so it's not a loss? I wanted to join the armed forces but am restricted to because of regulations due to my hearing loss. How is that not feeling LESS THAN! sure society places these feelings upon some of us. That doesnt change the fact that its not a direct result of being deaf.
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Just because you feel "less than" doesn't mean that everyone who is deaf does. That is still about your feelings and perceptions of yourself...not about deafness.

The CI didn't get you into the military, now did it?
 
Deaffy said:
Ok so it's not a loss? I wanted to join the armed forces but am restricted to because of regulations due to my hearing loss. How is that not feeling LESS THAN! sure society places these feelings upon some of us. That doesnt change the fact that its not a direct result of being deaf.
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Same here, but really its for the greater good. You can still work for them as a paper pusher, labor, etc - just not out in the field.
 
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Your friends turned away from you??? Oh yeah, thats because of deafness...


But really... Its because of them being fake friends.
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Bingo. Deafness is too often used as an excuse for other things that can be changed even with deafness.
 
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