Cochlear Implant Causes Injuries and Death by Electrocution!

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I found this article and didn't realize how serious this is!

26 COCHLEAR IMPLANT ELECTROCUTIONS FROM 1989 TO 1997 REPORTED
AD - Published: August 19, 1999

At least 26 people were electrocuted in bathtubs in the United States from 1989 to 1997, with cochlear implants blamed in more than half the cases and almost two-thirds of the victims children under 10 years of age, a study says.

One incident on May 14, 1995, Salt Lake City, Utah, a 21-year-old man was electrocuted while taking a shower in a bath at his home. Faulty wiring in his cochlear implant popped and sizzled upon contact with water. This fault, together with a faulty magnet and inadequate bonding of wiring all combined to create the lethal conditions. The shower unit over the bath was properly earthed, but the pipework was not.

The study, prepared for the national Centers for Disease Control by Dr. Thomas L. Miller, is reported in Friday's issue of The Journal of the American Medical Association. Dr. Miller said cochlear implants in the bathroom should be kept consistently. He recommends people with cochlear implants to use sponge baths frequently as they are more safer.
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I call shenanigans. One, you don't wear the processor in the shower/bath, and the internal piece is not internally powered. Two, the processor doesn't have the amperage necessary to hurt you, *even* if you placed a terminal directly in the blood stream where it would have the most effect. It's certainly possible that the processor would short, but that would only damage the processor - not the user.

Like Lucia said, cite it, please.
 
ismi said:
I call shenanigans. One, you don't wear the processor in the shower/bath, and the internal piece is not internally powered. Two, the processor doesn't have the amperage necessary to hurt you, *even* if you placed a terminal directly in the blood stream where it would have the most effect. It's certainly possible that the processor would short, but that would only damage the processor - not the user.

Like Lucia said, cite it, please.
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JAMA--Journal of the American Medical Assoc.
 
Deaf258 said:
I found this article and didn't realize how serious this is!
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That's terrible. Not only are you likely to die from Meningitis but now there seems to be dangers from being electricuted. I would deffinately consider that something to lose.

But of course CI militants don't want to hear anything bad about their beloved CI's.
 
That sort of thing is what happened to that boy I know who had to be rushed to the ER last week. Turned out that the wiring inside shorted. He is fine thank goodness and got a new implant but the dr's warned that it won't be the same due to some damage. He even said he feels fine and can't wait to get re activated. I just hope he won't be devastated if it doesn't work as well as the original one.

For me, it is not worth the risk for children. Being hearing is not worth the price if something should go wrong. I will stick to old fashioned HAs for the children. Of course, I have that view cuz I am a HA user and happy with them and don't feel the need to hear perfectly. Others have different views.
 
Oh God what next? This is THE most ridiculous thing I've read in a long time - I even did a double-take and expected the name of the poster to have a "sour" ring to it....

You can NOT get electrocuted from your implant. As Ismi said - you don't wear the processor when you shower, and even if you DID, you couldn't get electrocuted - you'd have to be plugged directly into a plug in the wall for something like that to happen!

Before making a fool of yourself (and posting something from 8 years ago) PLEASE do a little homework first, Deaf 258.

*shaking my head in amazement*
 
dreama said:
That's terrible. Not only are you likely to die from Meningitis but now there seems to be dangers from being electricuted. I would deffinately consider that something to lose.

But of course CI militants don't want to hear anything bad about their beloved CI's.
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Actually, a little common sense would be just fine. You can't get electrocuted by a CI. Its not like a hair-dryer plugged into a house socket you know.
 
Actually, I checked the JAMA website and first, the issue that was published was on Wednesday August 18th and not "last Friday" as mentioned in the article. Also I did an advanced search of JAMA's archives and could not locate this article. If someone has better luck, let us know.
Rick
 
What!! Serious? yeah need link? :eek:
 
rick48 said:
Actually, I checked the JAMA website and first, the issue that was published was on Wednesday August 18th and not "last Friday" as mentioned in the article. Also I did an advanced search of JAMA's archives and could not locate this article. If someone has better luck, let us know.
Rick
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Exactly! I was just over at JAMA and saw no such thing. Ummm....what is that website where one looks up hoaxes...

The amount of electricity/electrical impulses involved with a CI is so miniscule that it is utterly ridicuous to comtemplate in context of a true electrical shock. There has to be another aspect to this story nobody is talking about. I far more believe some additional electrical component in this.
 
sr171soars said:
Exactly! I was just over at JAMA and saw no such thing. Ummm....what is that website where one looks up hoaxes...

The amount of electricity/electrical impulses involved with a CI is so miniscule that it is utterly ridicuous to comtemplate in context of a true electrical shock. There has to be another aspect to this story nobody is talking about. I far more believe some additional electrical component in this.
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And I agree with you!
 
i found the responses in this topic fascinating.

i wonder if there's a study that find asl a failed language and so on - will ci-users cheer the study on and on for many months and years and use it to demoralized asl-fluent deaf and students or to close the deaf schools?

i bet my nuts they will. such is life.
 
It's not on pubmed either.

Sheri

rick48 said:
Actually, I checked the JAMA website and first, the issue that was published was on Wednesday August 18th and not "last Friday" as mentioned in the article. Also I did an advanced search of JAMA's archives and could not locate this article. If someone has better luck, let us know.
Rick
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Gamer12 said:
i found the responses in this topic fascinating.

i wonder if there's a study that find asl a failed language and so on - will ci-users cheer the study on and on for many months and years and use it to demoralized asl-fluent deaf and students or to close the deaf schools?

i bet my nuts they will. such is life.
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Er...get a real grip on life! I know most of us CIers don't think like that. For one thing, we know better as ASL has its utility. For most of us, getting a CI wasn't so much because ASL didn't serve us . Rather, it was that we wanted to hear and more...it is simple as that. I personally could care less what anybody else thinks why I went that route. Groupthink (mindless robots) is one of those typical shortcomings people seem to get stuck with and I prefer to think independently.
 
sr171soars said:
Er...get a real grip on life! I know most of us CIers don't think like that. For one thing, we know better as ASL has its utility. For most of us, getting a CI wasn't so much because ASL didn't serve us . Rather, it was that we wanted to hear and more...it is simple as that. I personally could care less what anybody else thinks why I went that route.
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i think you're the one who needs to get a real grip on reality. yesterday and today i've been reading several threads in here ci forum, and that's a message i got from some of you.

Groupthink (mindless robots) is one of those typical shortcomings people seem to get stuck with and I prefer to think independently.

yeah that's the same experience i got from discussing with ci-users -- in person. i got some nasty names from ci-users for using asl and so on. i hadn't say anything about ci and i'm pretty good at keeping my opinions to myself -- again in person -- but yet they taunted me and demoralized me for using asl.

and you told me to get a real grip on life. hyeh hilariousity ensues. i'm aware that ci-users get real sensitive when someone else points out the double standards in their attitudes and behaviors. right now i back off and give you some space to breath. i'm not active around here, ci forum, so see you in other forums.
 
Careful with your scholarship, everyone . . .

JAMA has only five articles by people named "Miller, T" for the year 1999. Only one of these is authored by a Miller, Thomas, and as far as I see it, it has nothing to do with cochlear implants. There is no 1999 publication by Thomas Miller in JAMA that has anything to do with cochlear implants.

The search results from JAMA's website with 1999 as the year and "Miller, T" as the author are available here:

JAMA -- Search Result

So thought, "Why not check 1995-2005?" Below is the link to the search result for "Miller, Thomas" and for the years 1995 to 2005.

JAMA -- Search Result

There are two results, both of which have nothing to do with cochlear implants.

I reiterate: careful with your scholarship!
 
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