Clarification on port forwarding settings for MVP

rhr said:
how? tell me! I know 1720 will not work fpr multi. I know work for two WAP IP yes but $$$$ $5 to $10 months. I don't need it I want one WAP IP Address
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You are correct about the 1720 ports not working all the time. My question to you, is 1720 always use that all the time? No, its just hand-shaking to get response. You can monitor of all those ports, anyway...

You can use Virtual or Trigger port. It not 100% effect, if happen MVP and Sorenson got same rang at same time, who first service and the second service to get rang. It pretty simple, since I see that you are I.T., make sense?
 
A port can only be used by one program at a time.

A port can only be used by one program at a time.

Using port 500 on two computers at the same time would violate the one program rule, and your data would get messed up. Most routers require you to specify an internal ip address to forward ports to, just for this reason.

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those who brag abut mvp vp200

why not stop use DMZ set port forward on both vp200 and mvp
 
Sorry, I don't mean no insulting but being IT specialist means NOTHING because being IT does not mean that this person knows everything. There are different backgrounds when it comes to being IT. Some focus on server, some focus on programming, some focus on networking.

I personally have met a person with IT degree knows NOTHING about networking but good at programming.

After reading this thread, I can't help but laughing! Why I laugh? That is because I specialize in Networking and I am part of IT, however I have limited understand of programming and it is not in my bag, Networking is my speciality and I intended to stay that way, and many of you got yourself real confused. I am not going to say anything but sit back and enjoy this three rings circus. Thank you for free admission.

rhr said:
Why you ask me risk. I am I.T. Speicalist. I never risk my life and I got award, what you problem. he is false, Chery57 is correct, he is not listen and you too
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diehardbiker said:
Sorry, I don't mean no insulting but being IT specialist means NOTHING because being IT does not mean that this person knows everything. There are different backgrounds when it comes to being IT. Some focus on server, some focus on programming, some focus on networking.

I personally have met a person with IT degree knows NOTHING about networking but good at programming.

After reading this thread, I can't help but laughing! Why I laugh? That is because I specialize in Networking and I am part of IT, however I have limited understand of programming and it is not in my bag, Networking is my speciality and I intended to stay that way, and many of you got yourself real confused. I am not going to say anything but sit back and enjoy this three rings circus. Thank you for free admission.
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Example, as for others, I am an I.T Programmer/techican and I know a bit of networking part. It varies on everyone's knowledge
 
Wow! Still having circus going on!

So far, only two people here KNOWS what they are talking about and they are correct about this...

I ain't gonna say which one, because I like to see this show going on!

Want the answer? HIT the book, called Networking indepth, and read carefully about NAT. The answer is right there.

Enjoy!

Fetching another bucket of popcorn!
 
diehardbiker said:
Wow! Still having circus going on!

So far, only two people here KNOWS what they are talking about and they are correct about this...

I ain't gonna say which one, because I like to see this show going on!

Want the answer? HIT the book, called Networking indepth, and read carefully about NAT. The answer is right there.

Enjoy!

Fetching another bucket of popcorn!
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me eat popcorn

brace yourself Sorneson new program roll out
 
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port 1720 means nothing...
When FCC deadline comes, ALL VP need to interop with each other through 10 digit numbers. That means, no one will use IP addresses to make call to other people.

port 1720 is only used as default when people call your IP address directly:
h323:66.66.66.123 (Here the default port used is 1720)

Since, everybody will have to use phone numbers from now on, it doesnt matter what port your VP uses they all need to be reachable through 10 digit number.

That is probably the reason VPAD/OJO went for the non standard port. No need to break what was already working (vp200)

MVP can easily set another port as teh signaling port, but I guess they were trying to get people to use their device more and that is why they make their customers make a choice.

When you select your primary vrs provider, it has nothing to do with your router configuration. Primary vrs provider is the vrs who handles incoming calls to your 10 digit number.

Many people have several 10 digit numbers ( that was not supposed to happened) but in theory each person would have ONE 10 digit number and select ONE primary vrs provider but most people have at least two different devices meaniung two primary vrs providers.

If mvp wanted they could set any other port (not 1720) and live fine along with vp200.

btw, you can always call other devices with their ip address and non standard ports. give it a try:

IP:port

ie

66.66.66.77:1720
or
69.66.66.63:40000

etc.

i kinda forgot where i was going so im gonna cut this post short.

take care
 
DDD has said it the best!! When having more then one videophones, regardless of the brand name, you all will be able to use more then one videophone with the same public ip address. In doing so, you will need to pay attention this time every time the VRS installer or tech support sets up your router. This means you need to ask questions how to do each step and WRITE THE INSTRUCTIONS DOWN !!!!!!!! I can't stress the importance of this more then I can in this post. This means that from this point on after the FCC mandates starts, if you have more then one videophone on the SAME public ip address (your ISP home address that your modem gets) you will not be able to use DMZ anymore. DMZ acts like a default override to the assigned ports on some of the routers that many of you have. I will NOT name the routers. There are too many variants and firmwares on the routers therefore each case will be different. You will need to assign the port ranges for your videophones, hence this can bewilder many of you who don't understand networking.

Let me say this - YOU DON'T NEED TO BE AN EXPERT! You just need to document the steps for YOUR home network. If you change routers or modems or ISP's then the steps you wrote down may be helpful to a point or you may need a total new set of instructions. Please- inform each VRS tech support/installer what did you change. It will simplify the help and faster response.

Last but not least, it's great that you guys love to help your Friends, but what worked for you may not work for your Friends. Please, please - gather ALL information and ask tech support first before making the changes. for example you and your Friend have road runner but you have the VRS router and your Friends has linksys or belkins. Two totally separate cases and different instructions and network setup. why ? because the manufacture of the routers have their own default subnet preference LAN ip addresses.

I can actually write a book about the issues involved and possible scenarios, but it's time that you all stop blaming the VRS providers for YOUR videophone problems. It's what you HAVE in your home and WHO is your ISP provider and your choices of which VRS provider you use and which hardware you use for VRS chat. sorry about the long winded post, but its a bit of a rant and I am hoping to start some sort of a awareness for all of you using VRS services.
 
ddd said:
port 1720 means nothing...
When FCC deadline comes, ALL VP need to interop with each other through 10 digit numbers. That means, no one will use IP addresses to make call to other people.

port 1720 is only used as default when people call your IP address directly:
h323:66.66.66.123 (Here the default port used is 1720)

Since, everybody will have to use phone numbers from now on, it doesnt matter what port your VP uses they all need to be reachable through 10 digit number.

That is probably the reason VPAD/OJO went for the non standard port. No need to break what was already working (vp200)

MVP can easily set another port as teh signaling port, but I guess they were trying to get people to use their device more and that is why they make their customers make a choice.

When you select your primary vrs provider, it has nothing to do with your router configuration. Primary vrs provider is the vrs who handles incoming calls to your 10 digit number.

Many people have several 10 digit numbers ( that was not supposed to happened) but in theory each person would have ONE 10 digit number and select ONE primary vrs provider but most people have at least two different devices meaniung two primary vrs providers.

If mvp wanted they could set any other port (not 1720) and live fine along with vp200.

btw, you can always call other devices with their ip address and non standard ports. give it a try:

IP:port

ie

66.66.66.77:1720
or
69.66.66.63:40000

etc.

i kinda forgot where i was going so im gonna cut this post short.

take care
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radioman said:
DDD has said it the best!! When having more then one videophones, regardless of the brand name, you all will be able to use more then one videophone with the same public ip address. In doing so, you will need to pay attention this time every time the VRS installer or tech support sets up your router. This means you need to ask questions how to do each step and WRITE THE INSTRUCTIONS DOWN !!!!!!!! I can't stress the importance of this more then I can in this post. This means that from this point on after the FCC mandates starts, if you have more then one videophone on the SAME public ip address (your ISP home address that your modem gets) you will not be able to use DMZ anymore. DMZ acts like a default override to the assigned ports on some of the routers that many of you have. I will NOT name the routers. There are too many variants and firmwares on the routers therefore each case will be different. You will need to assign the port ranges for your videophones, hence this can bewilder many of you who don't understand networking.

Let me say this - YOU DON'T NEED TO BE AN EXPERT! You just need to document the steps for YOUR home network. If you change routers or modems or ISP's then the steps you wrote down may be helpful to a point or you may need a total new set of instructions. Please- inform each VRS tech support/installer what did you change. It will simplify the help and faster response.

Last but not least, it's great that you guys love to help your Friends, but what worked for you may not work for your Friends. Please, please - gather ALL information and ask tech support first before making the changes. for example you and your Friend have road runner but you have the VRS router and your Friends has linksys or belkins. Two totally separate cases and different instructions and network setup. why ? because the manufacture of the routers have their own default subnet preference LAN ip addresses.

I can actually write a book about the issues involved and possible scenarios, but it's time that you all stop blaming the VRS providers for YOUR videophone problems. It's what you HAVE in your home and WHO is your ISP provider and your choices of which VRS provider you use and which hardware you use for VRS chat. sorry about the long winded post, but its a bit of a rant and I am hoping to start some sort of a awareness for all of you using VRS services.
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:gpost: Beautiful posts form you guys, that exactly what I am trying to tell them especially they don't listen. To them it's like comparing apple to orange.
 
Nathan said:
:gpost: Beautiful posts form you guys, that exactly what I am trying to tell them especially they don't listen. To them it's like comparing apple to orange.
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mmm but i read DDD's post that he tried to explain people understand what difference between port forwarding and dmz? let me know if i am correct..thanks
 
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