Christians Sue for Right Not to Tolerate Gay Policies

[EyesBlueDeaf]

O-K obviously you don't have any answers. It's just one of your stupid theories.

No, it is not a theory and it is a fact because you will just attack me and call me a racist further when you know I am not a racist and I have said time and time again I am not a racist. I am speaking from experience. You really need to hear the another side of the story from South Africa, not the Americanized verison. Even before the American White Man came to South Africa. There were White people in South Africa.

Heathy, my boy.. just humor me and get those FACTS in black and white. like I said before.. it's still one of your stupidiest theories.

 

[EyesBlueDeaf]

Are you seeing things?

The orginal question offered two choices:

1. A homosexual scout leader, who didn't molest the boys.

2. A heterosexual scout leader, who did molest the boys.


There are two other choices that were not offered:

3. A heterosexual scout leader, who didn't molest the boys.

4. A homosexual scout leader, who did molest the boys.


Those are all the possible options, correct?


I chose #3.

I see that you just made up your own choices which weren't offered.
There were no # 3 or #4 on the postings.

 

[EyesBlueDeaf]

I would appreciate it if you would not tamper with my posts. Making up false quotations is totally unethical.

You did the same thing - tampered with the choices. There were only 2 choices and you added a third choice. tsk, shame on you.

 

[Reba]

You did the same thing - tampered with the choices. There were only 2 choices and you added a third choice. tsk, shame on you.

I added choices. I didn't change anything in your post, under your name. I didn't falsify a quotation.

By limiting the selection to only two of the four possibilities, it was a very slanted, biased question. It's like some of the AD polls; the choices don't include every possibility.

OK, if you want to limit your question to only biased, unrealistic choices, then I choose, "none of the above."

 

[hottiedeafboi]

Wow, what a commotions. As what I see and I have mentioned, statistics of particular goups or person, or sex or whatever, doesn't mean anything. Whether homosexuals or heterosexual, it doesn't matter. Its based on the individuals. God judge individuals, not groups. Each has different accountiblities. All kinds of sex sins, that is outside of opposite sex marriage where God established, hatred, gossiping, unforgiving one another, backstabbers, lies (that's include truth and lies mix in is in liars category), uncontrollable angers, two faces, stealing, murder,and many more. That's must be deal with. Human theories always been that way for thousands of years, when people focus on their own intellectuals. Nothing wrong being intelligence, but using on human theories heading for disaster in the end, that is leaving God out. All the labeling on a groups or others isn't appropriate. But individuals him or herself.

 

[netrox]

Heath thinks homosexuals are out to recruit young boys in Boys Scout. That's pathetic. That shows his homophobic biases. Gays sued because they WANTED to be leaders of the organizations that they grew up and loved, not to have sex. They had many many years of experience in boy scouting and they're very qualified to be leaders.

Remember, even straight men do molest boys. They may commit "homosexual behavior" but it does not mean their sexual orientation is gay. It's about sexual power and abuse. Few gay men rape girls as well but it doesn't mean that their "heterosexual behavior" makes them straight. Sexuality is very complex.

 

[Heath]

I can really point to you, several acamedic research papers but you will still scream cry, stomp your feet and point at me and call me names when I am presenting the truth and hard hitting facts that you do not want to hear for yourself.

Go have a conversation with a White South African sometimes and you may run into Black South Africans who are very acamedic and have found the truth that the history really has been re-written to suit the interests of the liberal establishment worldwide.

As for Teresh saying that I have not that much life experience. I travelled all over the USA I saw the good the bad and the ugly, the downright violent and I understood the human events shaping the policy of the liberal establishment and how it is destroying America. I have had several dealings with various groups both good and bad and I have attended rallies with ASL interpreters present in various different rallies. I have seen just about everything there is to see and everyday I am experiencing more and more things so Teresh, that went right out of the window. I may not have a college diploma but I will when I go to college and also when I was at Western Pennsylvania School for the Deaf. The prinicpal and many of the school staff said I was one of the most smartest people they ever came across and I was only 13 years old !!!!! I did not ask for that title neither did I seek out that title.

 

[Teresh]

I can really point to you, several acamedic research papers but you will still scream cry, stomp your feet and point at me and call me names when I am presenting the truth and hard hitting facts that you do not want to hear for yourself.

Go ahead, point to them. Otherwise, you've already lost. I cite several very well known and reliable sources. You've cited the Bible, which is a religious book and for a good number of people on this planet can and should be considered fiction.

As for Teresh saying that I have not that much life experience. I travelled all over the USA I saw the good the bad and the ugly, the downright violent and I understood the human events shaping the policy of the liberal establishment and how it is destroying America.

Liberal establishment? I thought the GOP was in power? Or are they liberal too?

I have had several dealings with various groups both good and bad and I have attended rallies with ASL interpreters present in various different rallies. I have seen just about everything there is to see and everyday I am experiencing more and more things so Teresh, that went right out of the window.

You have no idea how little you know then. There is always more to see, places you haven't been, people you haven't met, things you haven't learned. You don't know everything, and, indeed, you apparently don't know very much about anything. The amount you know is infinitely small compared to that of which you are ignorant. I understand that, but I can see you don't.

I may not have a college diploma but I will when I go to college and also when I was at Western Pennsylvania School for the Deaf.

That's not too likely. People like you never finish because you believe you can fight academia and win, that you know more than they do. You will change to suit the needs of academic society, or that society will destroy you and leave nothing left. Not even the vultures will go after you after academia is through with you if you don't wise up.

The prinicpal and many of the school staff said I was one of the most smartest people they ever came across and I was only 13 years old !!!!! I did not ask for that title neither did I seek out that title.

That's nice. You may be intelligent, but you have no common sense, you've little knowledge or worldly experience, nor do you want to work within the confines of normal society. If you change your societal outlook, university will have an effect on the knowledge issue. Common sense is something, however, that you may always lack.

You're intelligent, yes, but lack any semblance of logical thinking abilities and don't have enough knowledge to accurately interpret anything. In other words, the perfect conservative Christian, and a great candidate for failing in university.

 

[Reba]

You're intelligent, yes, but lack any semblance of logical thinking abilities and don't have enough knowledge to accurately interpret anything. In other words, the perfect conservative Christian....

Wow, no one could ever accuse you not stereotyping!

 

[Reba]

...Liberal establishment? I thought the GOP was in power? Or are they liberal too?

Not many Republicans are truly conservative, that's for sure.

 

[Heath]

Teresh, Go ahead and think what you want to think because I sense in you some very evil motives behind what you are saying. I have never conformed to society even at birth, when I was born I have never conformed to the worldly standards. I stay superior in everything that I do wheter it is work or play and going to study in college will be no exception and you can scream rabidly and do evil things all you want while I study at college and work very hard and stay superior in all that I do. Have a good day. Cheers !!!!!

 

[Teresh]

Wow, no one could ever accuse you not stereotyping!

Nope! I'm biased against conservatives. I'll freely admit that.

I stay superior in everything that I do wheter it is work or play and going to study in college will be no exception and you can scream rabidly and do evil things all you want while I study at college and work very hard and stay superior in all that I do. Have a good day. Cheers !!!!!

In due time, you will understand why I've said the things I have. I only hope you last that long.

 

[Heath]

Nope! I'm biased against conservatives. I'll freely admit that.

Teresh, You lied to me. Conservatives are very Pro-Christian. I told you that in the first place and confronted you about it and asked what is going on with you being so downright hostile towards Christians who also incidientally are very conservative aside from politicans playing favorites in order to win votes and not stay with the moral values that have guided the Founding Fathers of America who has obeyed God for over 200 years and now a very evil curse is upon America, all thanks to the liberal establishment and political conservatives have to play favorites in order to survive the evil political climate surrounding the USA.

In due time, you will understand why I've said the things I have. I only hope you last that long.

Teresh, That is because you want me to understand your ways and the liberal establishment's ways. You do not want to understand God's ways.

 

[Teresh]

Teresh, You lied to me.

I did? When?

Conservatives are very Pro-Christian.

On social issues, religious conservatives tend to support authoritarianism. As for then being Christian, however, that's a fallacy. Orthodox Jews and Shiite Muslims tend to be very conservative also, but they're not Christian one whit. I oppose conservatism, not Christianity.

...and not stay with the moral values that have guided the Founding Fathers of America who has obeyed God for over 200 years and now a very evil curse is upon America, all thanks to the liberal establishment and political conservatives have to play favorites in order to survive the evil political climate surrounding the USA.

Reality check: America was established largely by the Masons, who are some of the most liberal people in the world.

Teresh, That is because you want me to understand your ways and the liberal establishment's ways. You do not want to understand God's ways.

"God's ways" are something people have tried to qualify and understand since the dawn of civilisation. Different people have different understandings of God's ways. I do want to understand God's ways, and I learn more everyday. I just practice a different religion than you do, so my understanding of God is very different from yours.

 

[hottiedeafboi]

Early in American history from the legislative and presidential, or broad, and mostly more likely as moderate. I don't like categories and argue about them. I am more support to moderate, bec carefully weight on both side. Liberal are too neutral and conservative is more extreme. I'm more cautious of what I believe and choose and rather not choose outside of God's leading.

 

[EyesBlueDeaf]

I can really point to you, several acamedic research papers but you will still scream cry, stomp your feet and point at me and call me names when I am presenting the truth and hard hitting facts that you do not want to hear for yourself.

Go have a conversation with a White South African sometimes and you may run into Black South Africans who are very acamedic and have found the truth that the history really has been re-written to suit the interests of the liberal establishment worldwide.

As for Teresh saying that I have not that much life experience. I travelled all over the USA I saw the good the bad and the ugly, the downright violent and I understood the human events shaping the policy of the liberal establishment and how it is destroying America. I have had several dealings with various groups both good and bad and I have attended rallies with ASL interpreters present in various different rallies. I have seen just about everything there is to see and everyday I am experiencing more and more things so Teresh, that went right out of the window. I may not have a college diploma but I will when I go to college and also when I was at Western Pennsylvania School for the Deaf. The prinicpal and many of the school staff said I was one of the most smartest people they ever came across and I was only 13 years old !!!!! I did not ask for that title neither did I seek out that title.

whoa.. you didnt mentioned that you went to Framingham, Ma - Learning Center for emotionally disturbed children. tsk, tsk. Texas, Mass, Pa whicheevr comes in order. That explains that you were very difficult student that parents had to keep moving you around.

 

[netrox]

I told you that in the first place and confronted you about it and asked what is going on with you being so downright hostile towards Christians who also incidientally are very conservative aside from politicans playing favorites in order to win votes and not stay with the moral values that have guided the Founding Fathers of America who has obeyed God for over 200 years and now a very evil curse is upon America, all thanks to the liberal establishment and political conservatives have to play favorites in order to survive the evil political climate surrounding the USA.

Once again, you're lying through your teeth. Our founding fathers were NOT Christians that you wanted them to be. They were definitely liberals in their days. They were Deists - they did not take the Bible literally like you do; they doubted the miracles. They believed Jesus existed. They believed religion is important. They believed morals are important but they doubted miracles.

You have to PROVE that our founding fathers were Christians like you are. You won't find it.

Also, you're so WAY off base to say that we're morally worse. Morally, we're MUCH better than ever. We succeeded slavery (back then, Christians in South supported slavery and used the Bible to justify it). We succeeded in allowing blacks to vote and have equal rights. We succeeded in allowing women to have equal rights as well. KKK was popular but now it's condemned.

We're trying to do the same with gays today but Christians see gays as a threat to their beliefs just like they used to think women rights were a threat to their beliefs back then.

Christians are inventing a Christian utopia that simply never existed in the past.

 

[hottiedeafboi]

Once again, you're lying through your teeth. Our founding fathers were NOT Christians that you wanted them to be. They were definitely liberals in their days. They were Deists - they did not take the Bible literally like you do; they doubted the miracles. They believed Jesus existed. They believed religion is important. They believed morals are important but they doubted miracles.

You have to PROVE that our founding fathers were Christians like you are. You won't find it.

Also, you're so WAY off base to say that we're morally worse. Morally, we're MUCH better than ever. We succeeded slavery (back then, Christians in South supported slavery and used the Bible to justify it). We succeeded in allowing blacks to vote and have equal rights. We succeeded in allowing women to have equal rights as well. KKK was popular but now it's condemned.

We're trying to do the same with gays today but Christians see gays as a threat to their beliefs just like they used to think women rights were a threat to their beliefs back then.

Christians are inventing a Christian utopia that simply never existed in the past.

Correction, both north and south are christians in different view, Abraham Lincoln has very strong christian value. Numerous love for Christ and even thru very dark times in his life and Lincoln was 2nd and very close as the top best influential president in history. If it would be liberal, would approve homosexuals and etc. Lincoln is more as moderate and south is more conservatives. There are mixture of deist, christianity, atheist and etc. And not only that, all revere God even athiest doesn't believe, but respect, bec their hearts is strong for the Lord.

 

[Heath]

whoa.. you didnt mentioned that you went to Framingham, Ma - Learning Center for emotionally disturbed children. tsk, tsk. Texas, Mass, Pa whicheevr comes in order. That explains that you were very difficult student that parents had to keep moving you around.

I already mentioned I went to the Learning Center for the Deaf and You clearly did not pay attention to what I said.

No, I was not that emotionally disturbed like you think I was. I was very angry growing up which by all rights I had every right to be a very angry young man.

 

[Throwstones]

Correction, both north and south are christians in different view, Abraham Lincoln has very strong christian value. Numerous love for Christ and even thru very dark times in his life and Lincoln was 2nd and very close as the top best influential president in history. If it would be liberal, would approve homosexuals and etc. Lincoln is more as moderate and south is more conservatives. There are mixture of deist, christianity, atheist and etc. And not only that, all revere God even athiest doesn't believe, but respect, bec their hearts is strong for the Lord.

Hey... think twice! Be careful what you think in wrong way or right way (misjudge) on your own perspective. what if you are living in the boy or girl dorm, people will say, "you live in the boy dorm at college then obviously you are gay because you are at boy dorm. Or you have roommate who is male, obviously you are gay to live with lover." That is why people uses misjudge or determine faster without asking you why you live with someone else or live in dorm for some reason. It is still TODAY people will say hey you are gay or lesbian to live with someone etc... Be careful what you use your perspective or judge on people.