Children with cochlear implants have quality of life equal to normal hearing peers

Usually. Too bad the whole world doesn't just want to watch me type. :lol:

But my family loves me for who I am . So I am usually happy. It is really interesting to me though how fast your daughter learned this skill.

I make sure to tell parents of older kids that she is NOT typical! But she was born hearing, and didn't start to lose it until after she was 1. Plus, she was "only" moderate for 2 years. I think her brain remembers what it was like to hear before. She had speech comprehension by day 2. That is unheard of!
 
Doesn't that already imply that you're expecting the full scale study to say that they are equal?

No. It will show as a whole that they are not equal but one or two of the populations with certain variables will be on equal footing as that of hearing peers.

Didn't you say that there were studies that show black people had more problems than white people? I'm not sure why deafness wouldn't apply in the same way? I feel like I'm missing something.

Deafness is applied similarly to black people but we (deaf people, deaf educators and professionals in the field of deafness view equality differently). Black people as a group are moving toward equality as that of white peers, deaf/hoh people are not even close.

The black community presented evidences of how such laws are damaging to them as a person and how it makes them feel inferior to white people. As a result of such findings, the government slowly eliminated Jim Crow laws and Separate but Equal doctrine was overturned. The U.S. had to enact Civil Rights Act 10 years later because white people refuse to treat blacks equally. Black people have one common goal….to be treated equally in all aspects of life. They worked together to reach that goal. They have black leaders, they have black role models everywhere and they participated in decision making that affect them as a whole.

Where are deaf leaders? Where are deaf role models? Deaf are not part of the decision making process. Who really are making decisions for deaf people? Deaf/HOH people have been told many different ways to be “accepted or part of the society”. Learn ASL, speaking, listening, SEE, PSE and so forth. They are taught using variety of curriculum (auditory based, signing based, speaking/signing). They are told to wear hearing aids, Cis, FM system and so forth. Parents are told to start signing, don’t sign, start auditory training and so forth. Parents are told that your deaf/hoh child will not reach this milestone, will not succeed, will succeed, will go college, will not go college and so forth.. As a result of the hodgepodge of educational philosophies, communication modes, and outcomes, we created one huge mess of divisions and camps within the deaf/hoh community. It is even evident in AD threads. “A house divided against itself cannot stand” (Lincoln) is the reason why deaf/hoh will never attain equality and QOL.

It is silly that we know that the majority of deaf/hoh still read and write in the range of 3rd to 6th grade. Don’t tell me it is because English is an auditory based because we also know that quite a few (even some profoundly deaf) read and write just like their hearing peers. Something is wrong, period.

A full scale study of different populations with same variables to find out what works, what does not work and start teaching the deaf/hoh to read and write like their hearing peers, to be functionally equivalent to their hearing peers and participate in all aspects of society like their hearing peers.
 
Do Da Do, and Shel....two excellent posts!!!!!
Heck little kids really don't know anything to contrast with their family experiance.
Also a lot of little kids tend to "parrot" what their parents want them to think.
Do Da Do, I'd also like to hear some demographic breakdown on the population studied.

That is given. All research tends to do demographic analysis to see if certain variable(s) affects outcome. In this type of study, it is a must to do demographic analysis.
 
Don't forget,deaf/ HOH in from hearing family (hearing aids or no hearing aids) Non-ASL. I'm sure their QoL worst off than the rest. I rather focus on what NOT to do. or what path we should NOT go.
 
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I believe that it's more important to have involved parents rearing children than it is to have a lot of money. Parent involvement and emotional support cannot be replaced by money. Miss Kat is fortunate to have an involved mother. FJ, you should take credit for some of her success.

Love the avocado story!
 
I believe that it's more important to have involved parents rearing children than it is to have a lot of money. Parent involvement and emotional support cannot be replaced by money. Miss Kat is fortunate to have an involved mother. FJ, you should take credit for some of her success.

Love the avocado story!

Why thank you! (Happily taking credit for my story.) True story too. But told for a parable. :lol:
 
I have to say it. Have to. I'm going to be hated. But people who admired deaf who know how to speak and listen is like people who admired beautiful women.

ok, go ahead and hate me. I just think we should just let deaf be deaf and relax a little with spoken languages and let them use ASL.
 
I have to say it. Have to. I'm going to be hated. But people who admired deaf who know how to speak and listen is like people who admired beautiful women.

ok, go ahead and hate me. I just think we should just let deaf be deaf and relax a little with spoken languages and let them use ASL.

No you won''t. Many people here say what you just said all the time.

I like having speech skills even if they aren't great ones, but everyone should be able to express their feelings.
 
believe that it's more important to have involved parents rearing children than it is to have a lot of money. Parent involvement and emotional support cannot be replaced by money.
Well yes of course. The thing is despite what fair jour thinks, I'm NOT bashing rich families or claiming that only kids from well off families will be able to do well.
That can be an advantage, since wealthy families can afford really good health insurance (have you missed the debate on health care reform? Even middle class families are paying very high preminums for low benifits. It's impossible to find a generous plan nowadays) they can afford to move to areas that offer very good oral programs, they can afford good speech therapists, they can afford the best ENTs, and other doctors and experts.
However, even with all those advantages, the real key is parental involvement.
There IS a particular parent who is VERY overinvolved (not just healthily involved, but very hyperinvolved) in raising their kids and making sure everythign goes right for their kid. Perhaps you've heard of them? They are called helicopter parents? Helicopter parents tend to be all over, but they seem to be especially clustered in the upper classes (not nesserarily the upper class since a lot of suburban middle class types go helicopter parent too) Helicopter parents are the perfect type to gravitate towards oral only (especially auditory verbal) b/c it really does emphasize TONS AND TONS of overinvolvement. Not just normal parental involvement with supplemental school based speech therapy or going to see an auditory verbal therapist every so often. But turning life itself into an eternal speech therapy session. (which basicly IS the auditory verbal "lifestyle) and working constantly on speech, speech speech like some sort of stage mom.
 
My mother is poor as a mouse, and she did not have the money to do a whole lot for us. We had to keep our dead hearing aid batteries to recycle around. those were the days when we didn't have zinc batteries.. those batteries slightly recharge itself enough for us to use as an emergency when time are hard. One time I broke my hearing aids, and had to spend the whole summer without it. So I spent it in silent, without ASL. I didn't talk to my family for 3 months. But they didn't care because they didn't notice the difference anyway so I spent most of my time outside walking and biking 2 miles to the store and back on my own. and hiking and reading.
 
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