Checkmate?

because we sign, silly. :lol:
 
Frisky Feline said:
Jiro, what did you see in there? I usually put the blogs on hold when i get home. but you said we sign... so i assume they don't sign in the video??
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I'll let kokonut answer this for you since it's his blog and thread.
 
Its either nobody cares, or this isn't breaking news yet.
But truth is accepted in a process, and it might be still in that process.
 
Yes, it's checkmate. The anti stem cell Deaf have made all their moves and were proven wrong at every turn and they are just about out of excuses.

They are trying to argue that using your own stem cells is "risky" and youll have all kinds of horrible complications down the road.(Wrong! Using your own stem cells or even umbilical cord blood SC is the safest possible medical procedure and is far, far, far safer than CI which they seem to cling onto)

They are also arguing that stem cells won't work for most deaf/Deaf people or that stem cells is inferior to cochlear implants.(Wrong! look at Chloe's results! She hears without HAs! Stem cells today is already better than CI in everyway!)

Anything else they say is already wrong today or will be proven wrong in the near future.

The CI hype will quickly die down in the next couple years and CI will be a thing of the past in less than a decade. Already I know alot of deaf people holding off on CI in favor of stem cells. They know if they get CI now, they will lose their chance to benefit from stem cells in the very near future.
 
Frisky Feline said:
Jiro, what did you see in there? I usually put the blogs on hold when i get home. but you said we sign... so i assume they don't sign in the video??
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All spoken. The girl lost hearing in left ear three years ago and a little more in right ear last Dec.

No sign. This was not a deaf person. It was autoimmune disease. But it is captioned. :applause:
 
stemcellsdeaf said:
What do you all think of Stem Cell cure hearing loss?
YouTube - What do you all think of Stem Cell cure hearing loss?
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let me correct you there - stem cell will not cure it but it will restore the loss to some degree. Hearing Loss is not an infection that can be cured with pills. Hearing Loss is a physical, biological damage that cannot be cured. It is permanently damage. Stem Cell can repair the damage and restore your hearing to some degree.

I'm sure it is wonderful for those who wants to restore their hearing, sight, spinal cord, etc. It is entirely up to individual. I am fine with my deafness. I do have some hearing left but if it is completely gone, I'm fine with it. I've already coped with it since birth so it's all I know. A hearing restoration by CI/Stem Cell/etc. would not be a significant advantage for me. It would be a significant annoyance for me because I do not know how to cope with noise around me. I just simply shut it off. :)

I support stem cell research but I do not support such arrogant action in pushing deaf people to get it. I'm not sure why is kokonut calling us out on this issue. Majority of us support each other if one wants to restore their hearing via CI/HA. Many of us do not look down on each other if one wants to get his/her hearing restored. It is just a couple of "Deaf Power" people who ruined it all.
 
Jiro said:
let me correct you there - stem cell will not cure it but it will restore the loss to some degree. Hearing Loss is not an infection that can be cured with pills. Hearing Loss is a physical, biological damage that cannot be cured. It is permanently damage. Stem Cell can repair the damage and restore your hearing to some degree.

I'm sure it is wonderful for those who wants to restore their hearing, sight, spinal cord, etc. It is entirely up to individual. I am fine with my deafness. I do have some hearing left but if it is completely gone, I'm fine with it. I've already coped with it since birth so it's all I know. A hearing restoration by CI/Stem Cell/etc. would not be a significant advantage for me. It would be a significant annoyance for me because I do not know how to cope with noise around me. I just simply shut it off. :)

I support stem cell research but I do not support such arrogant action in pushing deaf people to get it. I'm not sure why is kokonut calling us out on this issue. Majority of us support each other if one wants to restore their hearing via CI/HA. Many of us do not look down on each other if one wants to get his/her hearing restored. It is just a couple of "Deaf Power" people who ruined it all.
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I couldnt have said it better.
 
It was autoimmune disease
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I have to say..............I think that stem cells are prolly only going to be usefull for certain etoilgies of deafness.
It doesn't surprise me that autoimmune hearing loss was cured using stem cells. Autoimmune stuff is very responsive to stem cell treatment. But it's still really hard to say whether or not garden variety loss will respond to stem cells.
 
Jiro said:
let me correct you there - stem cell will not cure it but it will restore the loss to some degree. Hearing Loss is not an infection that can be cured with pills. Hearing Loss is a physical, biological damage that cannot be cured. It is permanently damage. Stem Cell can repair the damage and restore your hearing to some degree.

I'm sure it is wonderful for those who wants to restore their hearing, sight, spinal cord, etc. It is entirely up to individual. I am fine with my deafness. I do have some hearing left but if it is completely gone, I'm fine with it. I've already coped with it since birth so it's all I know. A hearing restoration by CI/Stem Cell/etc. would not be a significant advantage for me. It would be a significant annoyance for me because I do not know how to cope with noise around me. I just simply shut it off. :)

I support stem cell research but I do not support such arrogant action in pushing deaf people to get it. I'm not sure why is kokonut calling us out on this issue. Majority of us support each other if one wants to restore their hearing via CI/HA. Many of us do not look down on each other if one wants to get his/her hearing restored. It is just a couple of "Deaf Power" people who ruined it all.
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Ditto.

I don't care if they want stem cells. That's fine with me as long as they don't act like arrogant and think I need to get a stem cell for improving my life. :)
 
It's hard to determine if it's actually the stem cell that improved her hearing or that the autoimmune disorder disappeared on its own. Just because you stopped hearing doesn't mean it's permanent. She said that she lost her hearing last December due to "cold" and it can take several months for hearing to be returned back to normal in rare cases.

I am skeptical at this point and would like to see more controlled cases.
 
I respect those who want stem cells or they support the research etc, but i do NOT appreciate deaf people who are interested in stem cells trying to force others onto stem cells as they think it would be best for that person. We are grown ups and are more capable of choosing things for ourselves. I just don't believe in stem cells for 2 reasons. Number 1 i dont want to be "cured", im happy being myself and number 2, why??
 
netrox said:
It's hard to determine if it's actually the stem cell that improved her hearing or that the autoimmune disorder disappeared on its own. Just because you stopped hearing doesn't mean it's permanent. She said that she lost her hearing last December due to "cold" and it can take several months for hearing to be returned back to normal in rare cases.

I am skeptical at this point and would like to see more controlled cases.
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You can see all the cases you want dating back years in animals who were deafened on purpose and had their hearing improved with stem cells. This rules out your "autoimmune disorder" contingency. Chloe was told her hearing loss was permanent(she was deaf for 3 years!) and she was a candidate for a CI, but looked into other options. I am getting stem cells just like she did.

I emailed some stem cell labs a few days ago and one lab responded saying that stem cells were 100% effective regarding improving hearing if you have a healthy inner ear and the only problem was missing hair cells. Just that not everyone will be hearing/have normal hearing with today's stem cells. They can however get great hearing with HAs. So yes, stem cells works and does improve hearing and it's been proven on thousands of animals and dozens of humans before her.

Please read the post above. I mentioned before that all myths, misconceptions, excuses, etc about stem cells have been debunked. There is no doubt at all about stem cells. I am not the least bit skeptical, well I was in terms of how much hearing stem cells could improve and have to say I am gladly surprised at the extent of improvement in hearing stem cells has achieved! :D
 
netrox said:
It's hard to determine if it's actually the stem cell that improved her hearing or that the autoimmune disorder disappeared on its own. Just because you stopped hearing doesn't mean it's permanent. She said that she lost her hearing last December due to "cold" and it can take several months for hearing to be returned back to normal in rare cases.

I am skeptical at this point and would like to see more controlled cases.
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No.

The autoimmune disorder made her deaf, she "lost" cilla hair cells and thus lost her hearing. Stem cells restored her MUCH of her hearing (90% right ear, and 50% left ear from complete deafness). That being said she is a pioneer, and I’m sure with time and refinement her hearing could have been better. Nevertheless I would deem her treatment a success.
@Jiro
Are you saying you are afraid of sound?
erm....you brain will adjust and adapt.

Deafdude is right she was offered CI, but her parents opted for stem cells. Judging by the results they were right. I understand that people dislike change, but it seemed somewhat inevitable. Science and technology will continue to push forward...
I was not born deaf so I can’t say I fully understand what it’s been like..But I think I get the fact that you have your own culture/community and you don’t want to conform, or lose that. But rationally this discovery should be celebrated - a good thing has occurred.

:lol:
 
OneSided said:
No.

The autoimmune disorder made her deaf, she "lost" cilla hair cells and thus lost her hearing. Stem cells restored her MUCH of her hearing (90% right ear, and 50% left ear from complete deafness). That being said she is a pioneer, and I’m sure with time and refinement her hearing could have been better. Nevertheless I would deem her treatment a success.
@Jiro
Are you saying you are afraid of sound?
erm....you brain will adjust and adapt.

Deafdude is right she was offered CI, but her parents opted for stem cells. Judging by the results they were right. I understand that people dislike change, but it seemed somewhat inevitable. Science and technology will continue to push forward...
I was not born deaf so I can’t say I fully understand what it’s been like..But I think I get the fact that you have your own culture/community and you don’t want to conform, or lose that. But rationally this discovery should be celebrated - a good thing has occurred.

:lol:
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It's not really the stem-cells we're questioning here, but rather the motive behind the "checkmate" comment.
 
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