Charges against girl, 18, in same-sex underage relationship

Oh wow, I decided to left Kate's group after realized about some of their families are criminal, especially Katelyn's father.

I want to remove my name from petition too. :mad:

Screw to Katelyn and her families.

I didn't donate my money to their family.
 
Calvin said:
That's even worse for the Hunt family. That's too bad the publicity knows more about them...which means more problems for Katie's case.
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I would sure think so. The dad was out selling t-shirts and wristbands to raise funds. I bet those people are wondering where their money went now. I hope someone with common sense will talk Katie into begging for the reinstatement of that plea deal. The mom appears to have a record too so they aren't going to be very good witnesses when asked if Katie was warned.
 
Foxrac said:
Oh wow, I decided to left Kate's group after realized about some of their families are criminal, especially Katelyn's father.

I want to remove my name from petition too. :mad:

Screw to Katelyn and her families.

I didn't donate my money to their family.
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I still feel sorry for Katie. She got a bad deal in the parent draft. I'm glad you didn't lose any money.
 
Foxrac said:
Oh wow, I decided to left Kate's group after realized about some of their families are criminal, especially Katelyn's father.

I want to remove my name from petition too. :mad:

Screw to Katelyn and her families.

I didn't donate my money to their family.
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:hug: may the lesson be with you.
 
TXgolfer said:
I still feel sorry for Katie. She got a bad deal in the parent draft. I'm glad you didn't lose any money.
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Yes, she won't accept plea offer so it will be worst decision for her. I believe that she will go to FL DOC (state prison) after convicted - between 7½ to 15 years and she has to register as sex offender (if judge says so).

The teens think they can win in court trial - tough luck and they think that life is easy. Katelyn admitted that she did wrong and no way for her to survive in trial unless jurors use emotional to acquit or mistrial. My law professor say - if you say anything that will used to against in the court.

Yes, I feel sad for people who did donated their money. :(
 
TXgolfer said:
I still feel sorry for Katie. She got a bad deal in the parent draft. I'm glad you didn't lose any money.
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Yeah, chances is that Katie might land in prison for awhile for her actions. I don't think there is anything positive will come out for this family. They might be in huge debt after all of this legal stuff pile up.
 
I'm thankful that HRC doesn't support Katelyn.

I donated some of my money to HRC.

There are bad gay and lesbian people anywhere - even I have no respect for them.
 
Jiro said:
:hug: may the lesson be with you.
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Yes, I shouldn't trust anyone, especially in criminal case at beginning.

:ty: to TXGolfer for revealed a truth about Katelyn's families, however without exploit, I won't know about them.
 
Foxrac said:
I'm thankful that HRC doesn't support Katelyn.

I donated some of my money to HRC.

There are bad gay and lesbian people anywhere - even I have no respect for them.
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I have very good lesbian friends who are very good people. I don't agree with their lifestyle but I would trust them to babysit my grand kid (not born yet)

That was my point from the beginning don't trust people just because you share the same lifestyle or interests. You were correct all along that these charges were extreme. They still are.
 
TXgolfer said:
I have very good lesbian friends who are very good people. I don't agree with their lifestyle but I would trust them to babysit my grand kid (not born yet)

That was my point from the beginning don't trust people just because you share the same lifestyle or interests. You were correct all along that these charges were extreme. They still are.
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Yes, I had ex-boyfriend and he was Thai. I decided to broke up after he extremely obsessed about sex and didn't agree with his personality - no issue with his sexual orientation (he's gay). That was in 2006 and he's still my friend, but more inactive so I started talk to him in 2011. That was big change due to maturity and age. He didn't sex anymore after got STD because he didn't use any sex protection but treated with antibiotic and currently work for his mother - she owns small business.

I know gay and bisexual men have many different personalities - agree with some of them, not agree with some of them. There were some gay rednecks in here but I personally don't like redneck's culture.

Yes, I think Katelyn's charge were extreme but unfortunately, she broke the law and no way for LEO to treat her like special person, however prosecutor gave a most sweet deal for her - I rather to take house arrest over state prison - she got comfortable bed, TV, internet, phone, soft carpet, hot shower, AC, good food, pets, etc, also probation officer oversee on internet and phone aren't big deal because she has to give up some of her privacy as punishment for break the law.

I think speed limit law is ridiculous but no way for me to break the law. I got speed ticket for hurry up because I may be late for class due to bathroom, so I was like "NOT AGAIN" and I rather to be late in the class than getting ticket ($190 - court fee included if you don't appeal or go to trial). The state trooper was extremely friendly and told me that I broke the law. I found out that I have driving school option to get ticket dismissed, except for court fee but I decided go to court to get driving school selection and request the interpreter, but judge said there were no interpreter at driving school so he decided to dismissed my ticket - no court fee, no point assigned and told to follow the speed limit. I don't go above speed limit anymore after received a ticket and I know that I couldn't afford, even getting lawyer is expensive - $300-$500.

After follow the speed limit - it is easy for me to sticking with speed limit - no longer addicted to more faster - just sticking on right lane. I had been victim of road rage and had no choice, but broke the law to save my life from angry, reckless man who pointed the gun at me - he used it to scare me so he flee away in extreme speed (over 100 MPH) around other cars. I was like unbelievable - there are many crazy drivers on road.
 
Foxrac said:
Oh wow, I decided to left Kate's group after realized about some of their families are criminal, especially Katelyn's father.

I want to remove my name from petition too. :mad:

Screw to Katelyn and her families.

I didn't donate my money to their family.
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Just be glad that you found out before donating any money.

At least you bothered to follow up on the situation and discover the facts as they popped up.

In the future, maybe be a little slower to sign petitions. :)
 
If the older person was a boy having sex with a 14 year old girl, this wouldn't even be debated. He would go to jail.
 
saywhatkid said:
If the older person was a boy having sex with a 14 year old girl, this wouldn't even be debated. He would go to jail.
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Very true....and be labeled a Sex Offender....Feel Katilyn could have chosen to plead to "child abuse" and get at least 1 year in jail...then again...has to carry the Sex Offender label....

And wondering if the younger girl's family might just drop the charges....??....
 
rockin'robin said:
Very true....and be labeled a Sex Offender....Feel Katilyn could have chosen to plead to "child abuse" and get at least 1 year in jail...then again...has to carry the Sex Offender label....

And wondering if the younger girl's family might just drop the charges....??....
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I don't think she could receive a jail sentence to 1 year - she will get 7½ to 15 years in prison - it is up to jury to determine the sentencing.
 
rockin'robin said:
...And wondering if the younger girl's family might just drop the charges....??....
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It might not be an option for them. It's not a civil case but a criminal case. It's probably up to the prosecutor. However, if the victim's family decide to not testify that could lead the prosecutor to drop the case for lack of witnesses for trial.
 
Foxrac said:
I don't think she could receive a jail sentence to 1 year - she will get 7½ to 15 years in prison - it is up to jury to determine the sentencing.
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Seriously, I don't think she will....but am wondering also if her Lawyer did privy her to the possibility?......And her "corrupt cop for a Daddy" should have also intervened, for the best for her....

She still has the first option that was made to her...can she change her mind at this later date?
 
I really don't know, still "Felony" to me is excessive. I think best start with Misdemeanor with probation for next 5 years would be sufficient. If she repeats, then felony would be right category.

Picking 14 years old from her home is a really NO NO. If that is the case, then it is not acceptable. If it happens at school, Im not sure if it is ok or not.

I had good chat with my former co-worker, he point out that there are math formula on what age is that would consider sexual predator.

U/2+7=M

U as your age, M as your partner minimum age and if you had sex with your partner that is below M then your considered as sex predator. So, I calculated for myself, and I see what he meant.

For example, I'm 40 years old*, I would divide them, then add 7 meaning if I date with anyone below 27 years old, then I could be sexual predator. I personally am not comfortable with 27 years old or younger because their mental maturity is not as close as mine and I feel icky about dating younger ones EVEN if they are at legal age for myself. I can't image myself dating these that are in their 20's or earlier, and not even able to feel associate with them at all except just friend or whatever.

So, since she was 18 years, divide them which result 9, add 7 which means minimum would be 16 years old and having her with 14 years old does make her look like sex predator whether she has the intention or not.

*I am way over 40 years old.
 
diehardbiker said:
For example, I'm 40 years old*, I would divide them, then add 7 meaning if I date with anyone below 27 years old, then I could be sexual predator. I personally am not comfortable with 27 years old or younger because their mental maturity is not as close as mine and I feel icky about dating younger ones EVEN if they are at legal age for myself. I can't image myself dating these that are in their 20's or earlier, and not even able to feel associate with them at all except just friend or whatever.
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If you're 40, dividing in half makes 20, then add 7 is 27. (As you said.) 40 and 27 are WELL ABOVE the legal minimum. It doesn't make you a sexual predator unless you're doing something sick/illegal (rape, etc.) 27-year-olds are perfectly capable of making their own rational decisions. Heck, at 27 I was already married 4 years. I don't think any person here dating someone 13 years their junior should be made to feel like a predator, not when it's that far above the legal age. (Granted, I was asked out by someone nearly 20 years older than I, and I did say no, but at no time did I think he was a sexual predator for asking me out.) That's just my opinion. My father is 9 years older than my mom. They married when she was 23 and he 32. They're still my happy parents to date.
 
This isn't about legal matter. Its more of "relativity". Even that I am in late 40's I could have fun with 20's but I really don't feel that comfortable because the maturity level between that 20's and myself is so different. Yes, I have done that, and I just simply don't feel right and what that person had done is not acceptable to me, but it is acceptable for their peers. That's my perspective, not the law perspective. The law only limits to children up to 18 years old that is all.

Technically the law allows 18 years old having sex with 81 years old because that 18 years old is old enough to decide whether to have fun with 81 years old or not. For myself when I was 18 years old, and I can NOT image having fun with old woman.

AlleyCat said:
If you're 40, dividing in half makes 20, then add 7 is 27. (As you said.) 40 and 27 are WELL ABOVE the legal minimum. It doesn't make you a sexual predator unless you're doing something sick/illegal (rape, etc.) 27-year-olds are perfectly capable of making their own rational decisions. Heck, at 27 I was already married 4 years. I don't think any person here dating someone 13 years their junior should be made to feel like a predator, not when it's that far above the legal age. (Granted, I was asked out by someone nearly 20 years older than I, and I did say no, but at no time did I think he was a sexual predator for asking me out.) That's just my opinion. My father is 9 years older than my mom. They married when she was 23 and he 32. They're still my happy parents to date.
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