Canadian woman faces life in prison

interesting.. thanks for the info. :)

Angel1989 said:
If you have lost control of your dog and they run into the street and cause an accident it is the dog owners fault. Yes, and owners do get sued over dog bites too. I don't know how others states do it but in California this is the law.
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I read the article.

I think she made the mistake that she was at the left lane of the traffic to help the ducklings into her car. She would have pulled on the right shoulder of the road instead of the left lane. So that is where the accident happened. She did not know that she was not suppose to do that. So this is her first time involved with two motorcyclists being killed in the accident along with another woman motorcyclist who was lucky to be alive.

To me, that is a very harsh sentence for her to be in prison for life. I am sad about that. :(
 
I can see why she stopped in the left lane because the ducklings were on the meridian between the two sets of lanes- closer to the duckies to get into her car (that would be a behemoth of a task right there...). If she had parked on the right shoulder that would involve going across however many lanes of traffic (2 or 3?) both ways.

Still curious as to the time of day and what the surrounding area looks like before the motorcycle reached that point if they could see the car before hitting it...
 
I read the Driver's manual and it mentioned while there is lots of cars busy in the traffic like the highway, a driver is not suppose to stop for anything on the busy roads so the best way is to keep driving and let the baby ducklings meet their fate. I am sure everybody want to save the ducklings. There is no way to go around this situation of the fate of the ducklings. :(
 
I feel bad for all road kills I end up seeing while driving .

But its survival of the fittest. Smarter animals figure out now to navigate road pass on same genes to their offspring.

I still feel bad for one rabbit I killed on the road years ago Im not heartless just saying .
 
One has to be mindful of the fact that his/her car is still on the highway in lanes that are occupied by moving vehicles. This lady should just have pulled over on the shoulder before helping the ducks. A human life is much more valuable than a life of a duck. It is just an unfortunate tragedy.
 
One thing that has to play into the decision is the fact that she was only 21 at the time and her ability to reason at that age. A good friend, who is a psychologist who councils prisoners, has told me numerous times that people don't learn to truly reason until they are between 22-25 years old when the frontal lobe of their brain is fully developed and he feels that holding someone accountable with a life sentence for actions they did before there brain is fully developed is a miscarriage of justice. He does also say: that some peoples brains never fully develope because of drug abuse or injury and they need to be protected from society and society from them if they are a danger to themselves or society. I think the woman responsible should get some form of punishment, but life isn't it, she already got that sentence when her actions killed the two people.
 
seb said:
One thing that has to play into the decision is the fact that she was only 21 at the time and her ability to reason at that age. A good friend, who is a psychologist who councils prisoners, has told me numerous times that people don't learn to truly reason until they are between 22-25 years old when the frontal lobe of their brain is fully developed and he feels that holding someone accountable with a life sentence for actions they did before there brain is fully developed is a miscarriage of justice. He does also say: that some peoples brains never fully develope because of drug abuse or injury and they need to be protected from society and society from them if they are a danger to themselves or society. I think the woman responsible should get some form of punishment, but life isn't it, she already got that sentence when her actions killed the two people.
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She's 21 which makes her a legal adult. Many psychologists will claim things that are simply preposterous. This is the "wisdom" of the world that can amount to nothing. If people are raised properly to exercise sound judgment then they will be able to have forethought in their decisions. It is just like the saying - train up a child in the way he should go and when he is old, he will not depart from it. Just because someone says that the person's brain is "not fully developed" it does not take away the accountability of the person. The same can be said of drug abuse. Just because one was on drugs, it does not take away the fact that this person has to be liable for his/her actions.
 
While that may be true- a life sentence still isn't the answer for even a fully developed 21 year old.

She did say in one article I said that if she could or if it happened now, she would not have stopped for the ducks.
 
DeafDucky said:
While that may be true- a life sentence still isn't the answer for even a fully developed 21 year old.

She did say in one article I said that if she could or if it happened now, she would not have stopped for the ducks.
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That mean she understood the law of the roads especially on the highways which is very dangerous as to not stop on the left lane of the highway. I think she felt remorse about it all. Well, she learned the hard way of doing this. That is sad. :(
 
respectyoda said:

She's 21 which makes her a legal adult. Many psychologists will claim things that are simply preposterous. This is the "wisdom" of the world that can amount to nothing. If people are raised properly to exercise sound judgment then they will be able to have forethought in their decisions. It is just like the saying - train up a child in the way he should go and when he is old, he will not depart from it. Just because someone says that the person's brain is "not fully developed" it does not take away the accountability of the person. The same can be said of drug abuse. Just because one was on drugs, it does not take away the fact that this person has to be liable for his/her actions.
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You sound like a lawyer. If your brain is not fully developed and you can not accurately reason then how can you be held accountable for your actions? Another thing I didn't say in my first post was that my friend also said people who do drugs are many times incapable of reasoning because their frontal lobe of their brain never fully developes. As I said before she deserves to be punished for what she did, but life in prison is too extreme.
 
seb said:
You sound like a lawyer. If your brain is not fully developed and you can not accurately reason then how can you be held accountable for your actions? Another thing I didn't say in my first post was that my friend also said people who do drugs are many times incapable of reasoning because their frontal lobe of their brain never fully developes. As I said before she deserves to be punished for what she did, but life in prison is too extreme.
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I am not a lawyer. I don't look at it as if the brain is fully developed or not. I look at whether the person is capable of distinguishing between wrong and right as well as being able to make sound judgments. This lady did not make a sound judgment and had no forethought in her actions. The lack of sound judgment does not take away one's accountability. Since she is 21 and has a driver's license, therefore, she has the ability to think and reason on how to ensure safety on highways.

People who do drugs in which they lose their mind and the ability to reason will be held accountable for not keeping their mind pure and sound. Just because they lost their mind does not mean they won't be held accountable for the crimes they do. Someone will always be held accountable.
 
I would do the same thing if it were me. Now i need to be more careful when i drive such as SLOW!! :( It does not make sense for her. :(
 
The link posted says she "faces a maximum sentence of life in prison" but do we know what she is actually getting yet?
 
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