Can we really run car with water?

jenni-m said:
Oh, they can definitely afford to make hydrogen, and it would help with the oil problems. Getting rid of the pollution is the expensive part, though. It is not just converting that costs money, but the infrastructure depends on what is being currently produced. It has to be phased in, the components have to be made and installed, power sources have to be changed, -while- still supporting fossil fuels in the transition phase (otherwise things will collapse).
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Yeah, it creates a lot of energy to make components to make everything for a brand new car, of course.
 
sequoias said:
Yeah, it creates a lot of energy to make components to make everything for a brand new car, of course.
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Not just the car, but the equipment to make the car, the equipment to make the equipment that makes the car, designing new plants and factories, engineering the proper and efficient way to build them, the people to design everything, the people to install it, the people that teach those people how to do everything, effectively producing two products instead of one (new plants will have to be built before old ones are phased out, and both types will be in operation at the same time for a while)

And that is just a basic, small part of everything involved.
 
jenni-m said:
Not just the car, but the equipment to make the car, the equipment to make the equipment that makes the car, designing new plants and factories, engineering the proper and efficient way to build them, the people to design everything, the people to install it, the people that teach those people how to do everything, effectively producing two products instead of one (new plants will have to be built before old ones are phased out, and both types will be in operation at the same time for a while)

And that is just a basic, small part of everything involved.
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Yes, I knew that. It creates a lot of energy to make many products that we use everyday in this world. Imagine using much energy to create tiny plastic parts, it's amazing.
 
sequoias said:
Yes, I knew that. It creates a lot of energy to make many products that we use everyday in this world. Imagine using much energy to create tiny plastic parts, it's amazing.
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Yeah. That is why I am saying that it isn't economically viable, currently, not for the big companies anyway. The price to do this stuff will be disproportionately high in the beginning, because it has never been done before, and demand (therefore production volume) will be low for a while.

It would be easier for independent researchers to tackle it first and get some standards going, which companies can then adopt progressively.
 
jenni-m said:
Yeah. That is why I am saying that it isn't economically viable, currently, not for the big companies anyway. The price to do this stuff will be disproportionately high in the beginning, because it has never been done before, and demand (therefore production volume) will be low for a while.

It would be easier for independent researchers to tackle it first and get some standards going, which companies can then adopt progressively.
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Yeah, that's true. It will help a lot when independent researchers can find best way to make it economically viable to make new products before big corporations can get hands on them in a efficent manner.
 
jenni-m said:
Yeah, that kind of shows how viable hydrogen is.
But I would think it also shows (I am not sure what they actually say but based on the generator he is using...) is that you still require -electricity- to make hydrogen, and to make electricity, we need something besides hydrogen to power it (solar or whatever) otherwise, making hydrogen is still polluting the environment, even though running it in a car itself would not (at least not nearly as much as oil based fuels)
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Yes, there are another way without using electricity. Using Aluminuim and Galluim (Maganese Oxide (spelling) can be an alternative to Galluim. I may be wrong. ) in a bowl and pour water in. Metal will cause chemical reaction on water to become Hydrogen. So where's electricity for electrosys. Turning water into Hydrogen are not polluting environment. It turns back into water. So what's the harm to environments if Hydrogen being used. San Francisco and other cities that had smog problem for many years will see clean skies.


Catty
 
johnandrews52 said:
Can we run our car with water and gas?
Can anybody tell me is the HHO Gas is real working or is another scam?
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they already have run a car on water.. remember the 1903? 1909? Stanley Steamers? used boiler to turn water to steam.... like the old steam trains..
of course you needed fuel.. wood, oil or whatever to heat the water in boiler to change it to steam...
 
mx757 said:
they already have run a car on water.. remember the 1903? 1909? Stanley Steamers? used boiler to turn water to steam.... like the old steam trains..
of course you needed fuel.. wood, oil or whatever to heat the water in boiler to change it to steam...
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you're mistake :)
 
mx757 said:
Yea.. If You Don't Boil The Water.. How Are You Going To Get Steam To Power The Car??
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I'm lost now.

He was saying that you were wrong. I took it to mean there was no steam powered car in the past..
 
Secretblend said:
I know that. I know it was built and exists. My point is. Poweron said that you were wrong and I was telling him that you were not wrong and there was a steam powered car.
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YOUR RIGHT.. THERE WAS A STEAM POWERED CAR....took 20 minutes to fire up the boiler...that'll stop them from stealing it at night...:lol:
 
mx757 said:
YOUR RIGHT.. THERE WAS A STEAM POWERED CAR....took 20 minutes to fire up the boiler...that'll stop them from stealing it at night...:lol:
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now the question is.. Why did Poweron say you're wrong??
 
They should also make a piss-run automobile as well.

You're driving on the highway. You run out of gas. You have to take a piss. No problem! Just pee in the car and it will give you enough gas to take you to the nearest gas station (or whatever station it is that your car needs). ;)
 
VamPyroX said:
They should also make a piss-run automobile as well.

You're driving on the highway. You run out of gas. You have to take a piss. No problem! Just pee in the car and it will give you enough gas to take you to the nearest gas station (or whatever station it is that your car needs). ;)
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I would hate to be person behind that car. I would think it'll smell horrible!
 
Secretblend said:
now the question is.. Why did Poweron say you're wrong??
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guess she didn't beilive that there was a steam power car way back then....

to get steam you have to boil water....it runs on water no water boiling.. = no power
 
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