built my new pc 3 week ago lol

No problem, sometime, I do have trouble to understand about some members are saying.

I should read more slowly and more than once.

That's great news for me and hopefully would help GTA IV because I got around 20-30 fps with anything on low-medium, even updated to Quad Core does help some. I had tweaked this game to get more FPS but seems anything isn't very helpful.
Yes I understanding that.. You should ask some members included me if you have difficultly understand. asking is not hurt. asking is your CURE!

GTAIV eat single GPU's whole memory (1GB) for everything. if GTA IV used the deciated PhysX card, reduce to steal single GPU's memory.
 
That's great news for me and hopefully would help GTA IV because I got around 20-30 fps with anything on low-medium, even updated to Quad Core does help some. I had tweaked this game to get more FPS but seems anything isn't very helpful.
I almost forget to tell you: You make sure to check @ Nvidia Control panel if 8800GT enabled PhysX after installed 8800GT card. You will notice graphic more improvement via physx.

Honestly I got 60 to 100 fps by 2X SLI cards while video cards runs. depend on what kind of video games..
 
i havent played it lol! that's why i did build this pc especially for it.
WARNING: Crysis will steal your GPU's whole memory without share like GTA IV does. it will reduce fps unless you modify video game's settings and tweak you get more fps.. Good LUCK!
 
Yes I understanding that.. You should ask some members included me if you have difficultly understand. asking is not hurt. asking is your CURE!

GTAIV eat single GPU's whole memory (1GB) for everything. if GTA IV used the deciated PhysX card, reduce to steal single GPU's memory.

I almost forget to tell you: You make sure to check @ Nvidia Control panel if 8800GT enabled PhysX after installed 8800GT card. You will notice graphic more improvement via physx.

Honestly I got 60 to 100 fps by 2X SLI cards while video cards runs. depend on what kind of video games..

I just already put GeForce 8800 GT in then uninstall the old driver then install latest driver so I saw 2 GPU in use - GeForce 8800 GT and GeForce 9800 GTX+ are running.

Thanks so much for helping. :D

I will test with some games.

Wow, my case is full of dust because I haven't clean for over year.
 
I just already put GeForce 8800 GT in then uninstall the old driver then install latest driver so I saw 2 GPU in use - GeForce 8800 GT and GeForce 9800 GTX+ are running.

Thanks so much for helping. :D

I will test with some games.

Wow, my case is full of dust because I haven't clean for over year.
Goood! but you did check NCP saying "physx is enabled"? let us know how it turn out after you test with some games....
 
1) I had used it (ancient video card) on my own but I did not research on ATI at all in past and present.. Due, deaf people forced me to get ATI video card meanwhile I was ignorant & knowledge zero about pc building & stuffs before got nvidia on my own. Due I was followed them, because they said ati is best without explain.

Most likely because you asked a very broad question, or people who recommended the products to you did not do their research very well. It depends on what category ATI video cards are the best; ATI GPUs are excellent at processing AA and AF, and thus will lose the lease amount of fps to processing AA/AF when compared to a nVidia product, especially at higher resolutions. Exceptions do exist, of course, but it's mainly due to game engine programming or bad drivers.

In other words; do your research before spending money.

Why AMD selling processors for lowest decent price then Intel processor?

Because currently AMD doesn't have the most powerful processor on the market. Intel's flagship i7 beats AMD in almost every category. Tell me, if you had money to spend, and compared Intel/AMD processors with each other and found out that Intel processor keeps beating it, which one would you buy? Intel, of course.

AMD sells for lower price because it can't compete in performance, therefore, it has to compete in price. This is why you see Phenom II X6 for ~$250, when Intel's cheapest hexcore (i7 970) sells for $900. Now, if the situation were reversed, you can bet your damn ass that AMD would sell Phenom II X6 for $900 and Intel for $250.

hey should selling amd video card for lowest price if amd processor soldered on video card unit.

lolwut?

CPU (Central Processing Units) and GPU (Graphical Processing Unit) are two completely different systems, meant for completely different tasks. It's like comparing a construction 20-ton truck to a normal car. The only basis they have in common is the fact that both use a engine and four wheels. Same principle applies here.

I don't care ati is best but ati still looks crap to me, imo. AMD video card has lack of feature PhysX nor support multi cards ulike nvidia does.. please prove me if i am wrong.

Hey, whatever floats your boat. Just know that ATI (it's now AMD, cuz they recently discontinued the ATI) makes excellent GPUs.

Also... did you by any chance look at this? ATI has been able to use multi-GPUs since the 3000 series. Thats from 5 years ago up until now.

The PhysX is true, because PhsyX is a nVidia product and they won't license it to AMD. But point is, PhysX is mostly a marketing gimmik and very few AAA games even support it. The only game that comes to mind who actually used PhysX to great effect was Batman: Arkham Asylum. Mirror Edge was another, but it was poorly done.

2) what... Athlon FX? I haven't heard about Athlon FX.. which one of processor or videocard is for Athlon FX ?

Athlon FX is a processor. This was back in Pentium 4 days, when Intel released Pentium 4, but AMD's Athlon processor beat it in every category, despite being a full 1-1.5 ghz slower. Because AMD's Athlon FX was the most powerful CPU at the time, AMD sold it for $1000.

1) Once i bought the wrong motherboard which wont support SLI configuration, but support CF only. Grrr, I returned it and exchanged the different motherboard which support sli configs. Now I am more careful when I buy the upgradeable SLI motherboard with specified sli configs.

Which motherboard? As I said, x58 and x55 all natively support CF/SLI. s775 or AM3/AM2+ don't.

2) hardforum is good, but i observed it, they are obsess with MATX and HTC PC stuffs.

True, but they know a lot.
 
oh man i miss that old day when i got the athlon 64 with my ecs neforce 2 mobo. i never forget about how i can play with doom3 and ff11 online sooo smooth...yeah sli and crossfire are same but in different way :P least i can get tessellation for 5xxx series but i can get 6xxx series... if i dont want to get 5xxx now i think about it. isnt the same system..like phys card but its almost like tessellation. right?
 
oh man i miss that old day when i got the athlon 64 with my ecs neforce 2 mobo. i never forget about how i can play with doom3 and ff11 online sooo smooth...yeah sli and crossfire are same but in different way :P least i can get tessellation for 5xxx series but i can get 6xxx series... if i dont want to get 5xxx now i think about it. isnt the same system..like phys card but its almost like tessellation. right?

:squint:

Uhm, I don't follow. Tessellation is a DX11 feature, and DX11 cards support that, so yes, 5000 and above will have tessellation support.
 
1) Once i bought the wrong motherboard which wont support SLI configuration, but support CF only. Grrr, I returned it and exchanged the different motherboard which support sli configs. Now I am more careful when I buy the upgradeable SLI motherboard with specified sli configs.

2) hardforum is good, but i observed it, they are obsess with MATX and HTC PC stuffs.

Because you ignored me that I told you about motherboard was not great for game and no SLI support. That's all you insulted me.

Later, you just learned that you got wrong motherboard then replace it.

What's up with that?
 
I was surprised that my motherboard do have SLI ! I wasn't pay attention but found out that one lane run full x16 and other lane run x4, I am not sure if worth upgrade to new mobo with 2 lanes full with x16, not x8 or x4.

I think 2 lanes with full both x16 runs more raw powers.

dg
 
I was surprised that my motherboard do have SLI ! I wasn't pay attention but found out that one lane run full x16 and other lane run x4, I am not sure if worth upgrade to new mobo with 2 lanes full with x16, not x8 or x4.

I think 2 lanes with full both x16 runs more raw powers.

dg

Motherboard don't carry a LOT power thru SLOT. That's all you use your power supply's 4 pin or 6 pin molex direct to your video card.
 
Most likely because you asked a very broad question, or people who recommended the products to you did not do their research very well. It depends on what category ATI video cards are the best; ATI GPUs are excellent at processing AA and AF, and thus will lose the lease amount of fps to processing AA/AF when compared to a nVidia product, especially at higher resolutions. Exceptions do exist, of course, but it's mainly due to game engine programming or bad drivers.

Agreed with you. That's why I switched from ATi to nVidia for stable driver

In other words; do your research before spending money.

Smart move like me.

Because currently AMD doesn't have the most powerful processor on the market. Intel's flagship i7 beats AMD in almost every category. Tell me, if you had money to spend, and compared Intel/AMD processors with each other and found out that Intel processor keeps beating it, which one would you buy? Intel, of course.

Correct, It's up to my customers and friends, If they are on tight budget then get an AMD. If they can afford then get a Intel. I always let them to know why Intel is so expensive because it's fast than Amd for this year. I remembered old time Amd was expensive than Intel that time Amd faster than Intel in 2004 (not sure which year it was)

CPU (Central Processing Units) and GPU (Graphical Processing Unit) are two completely different systems, meant for completely different tasks. It's like comparing a construction 20-ton truck to a normal car. The only basis they have in common is the fact that both use a engine and four wheels. Same principle applies here.

I read from somewhere that IF nVidia with single core become CPU then it's will beat Intel,IBM, and AMD.

Athlon FX is a processor. This was back in Pentium 4 days, when Intel released Pentium 4, but AMD's Athlon processor beat it in every category, despite being a full 1-1.5 ghz slower. Because AMD's Athlon FX was the most powerful CPU at the time, AMD sold it for $1000.

One of my friend's brother built a computer with Athlon FX and he said it's boot up under 20 seconds in 2005-2006(??) and he spend almost $2k for whole system. Yeah, I can't afford to spend $1k for Athlon FX CPU only.
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