deafsmogtech
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I picked up a 2002 Dodge Grand Caravan w/a 3.3L V6, for replace spark plugs per customer request last Saturday. This mini van was not a good transport cuz we saw a same customer (real cheap ass) who asked us to check the fluid levels, my deaf tech told me that he poured about 1 1/2 gallon of water into the radiator neck and refill 3 quarts of motor oil into the engine. I asked why water in coolant. He says a customer couldnt afford to buy one gallon coolant , want water and just oils. That was happen last a couple of weeks ago.
I started it and drove it over the service bay, feel bad shaky engine like 5 cylinders and no power brake and MIL on. I think it was vacuum line broken cuz of no power brake.
I pulled DTCs.... one code was MAP (manifold air pressure) sensor, no misfire counters. I know there is heavy misfire that suppose to be create misfire counters but I took my vacuum gauge to check the vacuum in intake manifold, was shunned to see the needle in a vac gauge reveals 2 inch to 6 inch bounces forth and back. That made me exciting, let me guess is valve train problem. I informed my service manager about it. He want me to put new spark plugs cuz he advised a customer to diagnose a rough running but a customer want new spark plugs without diagnose. Then I removed a cowl assy from the firewall to access the rear bank of the spark plugs, I removed all plugs and WOT and performed compression test. Found no compression in cylinder #3 and other cylinders good compression about 175-180 psi. Put new plugs in, same POS. I put a cowl assy back. We informed a customer about it and charged him $205 dollars for new spark plugs and labor. Why should he go with $90 dollars diagnose? Anyway, I suspect the no compression in cylinder#3, causes burnt valve or broken valve spring or broken rocker arm. I didnt perform a leakdown test to pinpoint the problem due to a customer's money hardship.
I started it and drove it over the service bay, feel bad shaky engine like 5 cylinders and no power brake and MIL on. I think it was vacuum line broken cuz of no power brake.
I pulled DTCs.... one code was MAP (manifold air pressure) sensor, no misfire counters. I know there is heavy misfire that suppose to be create misfire counters but I took my vacuum gauge to check the vacuum in intake manifold, was shunned to see the needle in a vac gauge reveals 2 inch to 6 inch bounces forth and back. That made me exciting, let me guess is valve train problem. I informed my service manager about it. He want me to put new spark plugs cuz he advised a customer to diagnose a rough running but a customer want new spark plugs without diagnose. Then I removed a cowl assy from the firewall to access the rear bank of the spark plugs, I removed all plugs and WOT and performed compression test. Found no compression in cylinder #3 and other cylinders good compression about 175-180 psi. Put new plugs in, same POS. I put a cowl assy back. We informed a customer about it and charged him $205 dollars for new spark plugs and labor. Why should he go with $90 dollars diagnose? Anyway, I suspect the no compression in cylinder#3, causes burnt valve or broken valve spring or broken rocker arm. I didnt perform a leakdown test to pinpoint the problem due to a customer's money hardship.