Born in the USA?

[Endy]

My personal opinion:

"Born in the USA" itself doesn't qualified to be president but university or college degrees, study of political institutions and also law and economcy degree as well.

I see nothing wrong when anyone take any test to become a citizen of this country if they are motivate to be politician before they are able to qualified to be president.... then go to university or college which mean is take them years to get degree before they are qualified to be politician or Governor... It's up to Congress to test them before accept them in... then.....

:shrug:

Well, Could be!! It does not matter if One has a college degree or not. US Constitution says anyone can be qualified ONLY if one is born in the USA, at least age 35 and live in USA more than 14 years. One has to face 3 Presidential debates. One has to travel to every state to convince to vote that person. Yeah, no matter how experiened that person is. Again, that person can still be qualified.

Remember the key words: Anyone can run for president: Born in the USA, At least age 35 and Live in the USA more than 14 years. That's it.
For instance, our former presidents who never attended college: Number One is famous A.L. (HINT) Look in the links I provide:
1 - AmIAnnoying.com - U.S. Presidents Who Never Attended College
2 - List of United States Presidents by college education - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Scroll down to "Didn't graduate from college" This link is interesting and it shows different colleges, different degrees Presidents had. It tells you who withdrew from colleges.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Well, Could be!! It does not matter if One has a college degree or not. US Constitution says anyone can be qualified ONLY if one is born in the USA, at least age 35 and live in USA more than 14 years. One has to face 3 Presidential debates. One has to travel to every state to convince to vote that person. Yeah, no matter how experiened that person is. Again, that person can still be qualified.

Remember the key words: Anyone can run for president: Born in the USA, At least age 35 and Live in the USA more than 14 years. That's it.
For instance, our former presidents who never attended college: Number One is famous A.L. (HINT) Look in the links I provide:
1 - AmIAnnoying.com - U.S. Presidents Who Never Attended College
2 - List of United States Presidents by college education - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Scroll down to "Didn't graduate from college" This link is interesting and it shows different colleges, different degrees Presidents had. It tells you who withdrew from colleges.

Yes, I aware it but it's just my personal point of view since the thread creator ask us for our opinion.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

If someone born in USA then I would vote! If someone isnt born in USA then I am nervous to vote

Are you suggesting that you trust "Born in USA" itself ?

 

[jillio]

Damn!! How could I miss this one in my previous post. Yeah, that's Separation of Church and State.

Good Job, Jillio. Two kudos for you.

 

[imdeafsowhat]

the VICTORY rules applied here.



Beside, isn't the governor of california an aussie?

 

[Tousi]

No, he's an Austrian.

 

[imdeafsowhat]

No, he's an Austrian.

What I said.

 

[Banjo]

What I said.

Aussie is a reference to people who are Australians, the governor is from Austria, not Australia.

 

[imdeafsowhat]

Good for you people, People called Arnold an aussie and doesn't this show you all that being born in USA doesn't always mean something.

 

[Byrdie714]

Good for you people, People called Arnold an aussie and doesn't this show you all that being born in USA doesn't always mean something.

the VICTORY rules applied here.

Beside, isn't the governor of california an aussie?

Uhh...you called him an Aussie.....

No, he's an Austrian.

Aussie is a reference to people who are Australians, the governor is from Austria, not Australia.

Exactly,

You should know better imdeafsowhat....you live in California!

 

[imdeafsowhat]

Uhh...you called him an Aussie.....





Exactly,

You should know better imdeafsowhat....you live in California!

I live in California, but remember how big it is and the chance of encountering Arnie is 1%


Beside, he's an Aussie in my eyes. He once was friend with a deaf guy who played the Hulk.

 

[Byrdie714]

I live in California, but remember how big it is and the chance of encountering Arnie is 1%


Beside, he's an Aussie in my eyes. He once was friend with a deaf guy who played the Hulk.

So he was friends with Lou Ferringo? So what. They probably had a lot in common as both are body builders.

So how is he an "aussie in your eyes"?

 

[imdeafsowhat]

So he was friends with Lou Ferringo? So what. They probably had a lot in common as both are body builders.

So how is he an "aussie in your eyes"?

Bulky Top Body, skinny legs.

 

[Maria]

it's ok. i'm just saying that your concern/view/POV is exactly same as those hardcore right-wingers as mentioned above. their accusation/views/opinions are so crazy that it's hilarious. Maybe that's the reason why FOX News is the most watched show in USA. People want to hear what they've got to say cuz it's so fucking hilarious. funnier than SNL parody. Maybe they just want a good laugh at home after long shitty day at work.

Well, I didn't know that my concern/view/POV is exactly same as those hardcore right-wingers. If, I ever thought of like this, then I would tell it that I got all this idea from O' Reilly.

I'm curious how you came up with that concern. Who/what influenced you to think like that?

My thoughts just came up and asked that fellow ( Endy ) about " eagle " and "lion ". I was just wonderin' .. there were alot of things that I thought about what's goin' to happen to our country. I feel that our country is our LAST resort/straw - there's no other like America. There's no other like " Eagle ". I still have other things to say, but I will wait for the right issue to come up.

 

[Maria]

All of the things you've said about the U.S. and Obama are exactly what is spouted by no-nothing, "hot air" political "pundits" like O'Reilly.

Well, frankly I never knew that. Did you hear them through air ? Or what ?

I suggest you listen to the facts from people like Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow.

Sorry, I never knew who Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow are before I said my pieces here. Of course, you will probably say that now I know since you mentioned their names. For your information, I prefer to listen what I think of things and if, I need to know about somethin' or what ever that comes in my mind, then I would ask or say somethin' in here for your and others' feedbacks, POV, and such.

When you compare O'Reilly, Hannity, etc. to Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow, both Keith and Rachel back up their opinions with facts -- they don't just make up things as they go along.

I would rather to listen to what I have learned from many non-fiction books that I read from years ago ... and even through some websites.

 

[Maria]

IF Obama was a socialist, the country would become a socialist run country. IF he was a communist, it would become a communist run country. Socialist governments and Communist governments are not the same thing at all.

Well, did you read my post in Reba's thread ? I gave you 2 links at your request over there. Please, read them there. Here's a link I provide you below.
AllDeaf.com - View Single Post - What did Biden mean?

BUT, since Obama is a Democrat, we will have the same Democracy we have always known.

Schools won't teach any religion because they are not permitted to by law. A little thing called separation of church and state.

Schools teach Middle East religions without 2 words " Jesus Christ " - except one word " god ". I will find a link or more to show you when I have time. Ok ? Because I have to work durin' the day until I came home late after 6 pm. I will not forget. And , of course I won't mention " religion " here as AllDeaf Forum Rules say so, but I will give you some ideas what schools did.

 

[Hear Again]

Well, frankly I never knew that. Did you hear them through air ? Or what ?

Yes. Both O'Reilly and Hannity are on the Fox News channel.

Sorry, I never knew who Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow are before I said my pieces here. Of course, you will probably say that now I know since you mentioned their names. For your information, I prefer to listen what I think of things and if, I need to know about somethin' or what ever that comes in my mind, then I would ask or say somethin' in here for your and others' feedbacks, POV, and such.

Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow are both on MSNBC. The name of Keith Olberman's show is "Countdown with Keith Olberman" and the name of Rachel's show is "The Rachel Maddow Show."

If you prefer to get your news from online newspapers and websites, that's fine. I just thought I'd mention the names of these two pundits so you could receive balanced information.

 

[Maria]

Schools teach Middle East religions without 2 words " Jesus Christ " - except one word " god ". I will find a link or more to show you when I have time. Ok ? Because I have to work durin' the day until I came home late after 6 pm. I will not forget. And , of course I won't mention " religion " here as AllDeaf Forum Rules say so, but I will give you some ideas what schools did.

Teaching About Islam, the Middle East

Teachers fielded many questions from students in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks, some of them dealing with the history, culture, and religions of the Middle East. To better prepare themselves for questions this year, about 60 Connecticut teachers attended a weeklong seminar in July about the region and how to use the information in the curriculum. Included: Resources for teaching about the Middle East.


Classroom teachers fielded many questions from students following the terrorist attacks September 11 in New York City and Washington, D.C., and no doubt will face even more as classes resume shortly before the one-year anniversary of the attacks.

"If Islam is a peaceful religion, why would they do these things?" was among the questions posed to Katherine Field, a teacher at Woodstock Academy in Woodstock, Connecticut, last September. "I haven't had a good answer," she said.

"My biggest problem was a lack of resources," said Jennifer Pompa, a seventh-grade social studies and geography teacher at Flood Middle School in Stratford, Connecticut, about the period after September 11.

Pompa, Field, and about 60 other Connecticut teachers, though, will be better equipped this year to answer students' questions. In July, the teachers attended a weeklong conference about Islamic culture and religion and the history and geography of the Middle East.
A CHANCE FOR IN-DEPTH STUDY
The program, called the Teachers' Institute on Middle Eastern Studies, was held at Central Connecticut State University in New Britain. The institute was funded in part by grants from the U.S. Department of Education and the Connecticut Humanities Council. The Wethersfield (Connecticut) School District applied for the grant and was required to offer the workshop in conjunction with a college.

"Obviously, [the Middle East] is an important part of the world, and teachers always are faced with questions about it," said a Wethersfield school administrator about why the district applied for the grant. "I think the more information students have, the better chance they have of being critical thinkers. I think ignorance breeds intolerance."

The grant program was developed after September 11 to help teachers and their students better understand Muslim culture and religion and to contradict ideas that all Muslims are terrorists, said Richard Benfield, the program coordinator of the institute and chairman of CCSU's geography studies group.

"The goal was to teach about history and culture and tolerance and knocking down stereotypes [of Muslims and Arabs,"] Benfield told Education World. "Greater understanding, we hope, leads to greater tolerance and respect."

The institute was generated by student questions, he added. "Teachers were finding there was more of a need for information about Middle Eastern issues [after September 11], and some feel the need to fit more of that into their curriculums. We tried to cover the geography, history, and culture of the Middle East. These teachers are going to be asked to provide information and leadership on these issues at their schools."

After four days of lectures about the Middle East and Islam, teachers spent the last day of the institute working in groups developing units and lesson plans. Two follow-up sessions are planned for the fall or winter to allow teachers to share their lesson plans and talk about their experiences using the lessons in their schools.
EXPLORING ISLAMIC ART
Most of the teachers at the institute were middle and high school teachers, but several elementary school art teachers who attended were looking forward to using the material.

One of the art teachers said she would like to develop lessons using the geometric patterns in Islamic art and architecture and link them to the math curriculum.

"This is an area we have not had much information about, and this was a good opportunity to learn to teach it," the teacher said. "This is a huge part of our culture and much of it has been left out. This will help students realize the beauty and richness of the Islamic culture. So far, they have only had very negative images of Islam."

Another art teacher said she hopes to connect an Islamic art unit with geography lessons.
EXPLAINING COMPLEX ISSUES
Several secondary school teachers at the institute who teach social studies, history, and/or religion said they hoped to use the information to give their students broader perspectives on Islam and the Middle East.

"This has given me a week to focus on the region and think through the issues," Richard Bruneau, a high school history teacher who teaches a course about Middle Eastern governments.

Field, the Woodstock Academy teacher who teaches comparative religions and world history, said she plans to create a chart showing the similarities among Islam, Christianity, and Judaism, and would like to find speakers with first-hand knowledge of the Middle East and its religions.

"This is a very important area, and I wanted to learn more about it," Field said. "Hearing about Islam from someone who is Islamic is helpful. It's hard for us to get speakers in our area." The Islamic speakers stressed that terrorism is not a tenet of the Muslim religion. "They said people who said that are misinterpreting the religion."

Pompa, who teaches geography at Flood Middle School, said the institute provided her with numerous resources to find answers for herself and her students about the Middle East and Islam. "On the news, you only get bits and pieces," she said about issues in the Middle East. "It's good when you can go deeper."

Pompa plans to begin the school year with lessons about the Middle East and Asia, to coincide with the anniversary of the September 11 attacks "and dispel some of the myths that Islam means terrorism." Pompa also plans to explain the reasons for certain Islamic practices, pertaining to the role of women and why they keep their heads covered.

She also wants to work in a lesson about resolving conflicts with a friend and how those methods might be applied on a global scale. "Since September 11, it's been important to be aware of all areas [of the world]," Pompa said. "We cannot be an isolated country. I think we need to be aware of all people."

Article by Ellen R. Delisio
Education World®
Copyright © 2002 Education World

8/26/2002
Education World® : Teaching About Islam, the Middle East

( Please, forgive me if, this is off-topic. I want to provide a link for Jillio to read since she mentioned that church and the state are separate. )

 

[Wokamuka]

Yes, very true. IF that person is a member of Al Qaeda, that person is born in the US, age 35 and lives in US more than 14 years. Yes, that makes that person of Al Qaede qualified to run for president. Yes!! Yes!!

BUT.... that person has to convince the people to vote that person. That person has to face three Presidential debates. It's up to the US citiziens to decide who wants to vote.

Surely, anyone can be!

I know it's not going to happen. Thank goodness!!

A member of Al-Qaeda being the President of the United States? That'll be the day. Since you've mentioned it, I'll be a Republican and accuse you, since you've thought of it first, of allowing the opportunity.

Let it stay. Someone else told me that "too much freedom is chaos."

In Mexico, the law was amended before Vicente Fox was elected, because his mother was born in Spain. According to old Mexican law, a candidate must be born in Mexico. Plus a candidate's both parents who must be born in Mexico.

Too much freedom is democracy; a lack of control. Chaos is a long-term expectation out of a long-term democratic sustenance. It is a science fiction fear that is re-enforced within those who cannot comprehend the facts.

One 6 year term? Thanks, but no thanks. 4 years is long enough. The past 8 years under George W. Bush is one example of why a 6 year term would be a very bad idea.

What happens if the Mexican President can no longer serve? Who takes over?

George W. Bush is a two-term President. He was elected, by the electoral system of the United States, to 2 FOUR-year terms. In short, the American Preisident's terms were determined by a a four-year cycle. Imagine a 12-year cycle by a two-term President. Consider yourself fortunate. (Oh! You're not Mexican!)

That explains the poster in my doctor's waiting room. It says "Traitor" in Spanish with a picture of Fox.

The likes of such disrespect, I've not seen. What service you receive?

My personal opinion: "Born in the USA" itself doesn't qualified to be president but university or college degrees, study of political institutions and also law and economcy degree as well.

I see nothing wrong when anyone take any test to become a citizen of this country if they are motivate to be politician before they are able to qualified to be president.... then go to university or college which mean is take them years to get degree before they are qualified to be politician or Governor... It's up to Congress to test them before accept them in... then.....

:shrug:

You consider an elected official to be someone who does'nt portray. What a fool. You're a fool who would vote as if a Hitler came along.

Teaching About Islam, the Middle East

( Please, forgive me if, this is off-topic. I want to provide a link for Jillio to read since she mentioned that church and the state are separate. )

Religion is verboten. Get a clue, darling. YOU, by MY definition, would be a terrorist toward AllDeaf (and the rest of us).

 

[Hear Again]

George W. Bush is a two-term President. He was elected, by the electoral system of the United States, to 2 FOUR-year terms. In short, the American Preisident's terms were determined by a a four-year cycle. Imagine a 12-year cycle by a two-term President. Consider yourself fortunate. (Oh! You're not Mexican!)

No kidding! I'm glad I don't live in Mexico for that very reason.

Still, I'd prefer a system where a U.S. President only served for one year.