Blind 7-Year-Old Boy Sees With His Ears

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Blind 7-Year-Old Boy Sees With His Ears
Humans Can Use Same Technique as Dolphins, Bats to Create Pictures With Sound
By KI MAE HEUSSNER
Oct. 9, 2009—


Born without sight, 7-year-old Lucas Murray used to be so afraid of walking he wouldn't take a step without his parents by his side.

"He would walk, but he would hold our hands. Always," said his mother, Sarah Murray of Dorset, England. "When he was younger, he wouldn't even walk on a bumpy surface."

But now Lucas has become more mobile than his parents ever imagined, running with friends, playing basketball and jumping on a trampoline -- all on his own.

The incredible change, his mother said, is owed to a technique called echolocation, similar to the method used by dolphins and bats, that allows Lucas to paint a picture of his surroundings using sound he creates himself.

To "see" the world around him, he clicks his tongue on the roof of his mouth and listens to the echo that bounces back. From the sound, he can make out the location, depth and shape of objects around him, allowing him to navigate even unfamiliar areas.

Echolocation Used by Small Percentage of Blind Population
Though it's estimated that only about 5 to 10 percent of the blind population now uses a sonar-type approach, the Murrays and others hope it could someday become as common as the widely-adopted white cane.

Inspired by a documentary about a blind American boy who had mastered echolocation, Sarah Murray and her husband Iain Murray reached out to Daniel Kish, a blind psychologist who has practiced the technique since childhood and has been teaching it for more than 15 years.

Two years ago, Kish traveled to the Murrays' hometown and worked with Lucas for four days, teaching him not just echolocation, but convincing Lucas and his parents that blindness doesn't need to be a limiting condition.

"You have to be able to let go, and it's the hardest thing in the world," said Sarah Murray. The family lives by a lake, and when Kish suggested the family let Lucas walk along the shore on his own, she said, "It was terrifying. And Lucas found it terrifying too."

"I had to walk with my hands in my pockets and grip them tightly," she said.

But after the family overcame the initial fear, Lucas' progress skyrocketed.

He advanced from learning how to detect different sized bowls and cardboard panels by clicking to navigating grocery stores entirely on his own. In addition to clicking, Lucas also uses a white cane to find his way.

Psychologist: Echolocation Is Means to an End
"He likes exploring things, he likes climbing things," his mother said. "He likes supermarkets and going off on his own& He'll go up the escalator. That wouldn't have been conceivable in a million years."

She said the frequency of Lucas' clicks depends on the environment and how familiar he is with it, but the technique is second nature to him now.

"It's quite nice really," said Lucas. "I just do it. It just works really."

And, as his confidence has grown, his parents' perception of his future has been transformed.

"We had a vision of Lucas needing assistance, having a [guide] dog, and now he's never going to be able to see but I don't see any limits on what he can achieve," said Sarah Murray.

Kish said that mindset is the goal of his echolocation technique, which he calls FlashSonar.

"Although FlashSonar seems to be the most inspiring and impressive part of our work, to us, it's really not the end, it's really a means to an end," he said. "The goal is what we call self-directed achievement."

Visual Cortex Can Create Images from Sound
The greatest problem facing blind people is that they tend to be directed by others and have their choices made for them by others, Kish said. The FlashSonar technique helps blind individuals become more independent and, ultimately, overcome that problem.

With his charity, World Access for the Blind, Kish said he has helped hundreds of blind people develop their sense of hearing to "see."

"What we really do is we teach the brain how to image using non-visual information," he said.

Although he has used the technique since childhood, it wasn't until he researched echolocation in graduate school that he understood how it worked.

He said that even in the brains of blind people, the visual cortex continues to function. Although images don't reach it from the optic nerve, it can image data from other senses, such as hearing.

"The visual cortex is falsely named," he said. "It should more appropriately be named the imaging cortex. It can take any data fed to it and image that data& And echolocation is just another way of imaging." He said he's seen people with advanced echolocation skills listen to the echoes from their clicks to sketch entire scenes of their surroundings.

Some See Clicking as Negative Distinction
But echolocation isn't without its detractors.

"[Blindness] is a rare condition and people do not respond favorably to it. There's a big push to try and normalize blindness so that it isn't seen as negatively distinctive," Kish said. "And it's believed that odd behaviors such as clicking your tongue could be construed as a negative distinction." Although the method he teaches produces a very discrete click, he said for some it's seen as abnormal.

Chris Danielson, a spokesman for the National Federation of the Blind, said that the organization doesn't oppose echolocation, but advocates it in conjunction with the white cane.

"If you look at the blind population as a whole, that seems to be the most helpful for the most people. That or the use of the guide dog," he said.

While some people have demonstrated aptitude for echolocation, he said it doesn't seem to be as effective for most blind people.

But Kish and the families he has helped argue that while some may have more natural talent, echolocation doesn't need to be restricted to a small percentage of the blind population. It can be taught to anyone and has the potential to change the entire system of mobility for blind people, they say.

"If people can get past the point that this isn't magic, it isn't revolutionary, if we can get past those barriers it could happen," said Sarah Murray. Echolocation and the greater philosophy it reflects, she said, "Completely turns on its head the way blind people should orient themselves."

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Blind 7-Year-Old Boy Sees With His Ears, Lucas Murray Uses Sound - ABC News
 
I don't see why this is article-worthy. Most blind people use echolocation to some degree, many without even realizing it. Not to mention the news was already made with Daniel Kish and Ben Underwater. I guess I just don't see what the big deal is. It's kind of like having an article called "Deaf boy speaks with hands." It's the natural human response to a given condition.

:whistle:
 
I don't see why this is article-worthy. Most blind people use echolocation to some degree, many without even realizing it. I guess I just don't see what the big deal is. It's kind of like having an article called "Deaf boy speaks with hands." It's the natural human response to a given condition.

:whistle:

I guess we're amazed to see that a blind boy can "see" with his hear just as much as hearie was amazed to see deafie driving or going to school :giggle:
 
I guess we're amazed to see that a blind boy can "see" with his hear just as much as hearie was amazed to see deafie driving or going to school :giggle:

Deaf people can drive?? Wow!

:giggle:
 
Wow, you learn something new everyday! I had no idea blind people used echolocation. I mean, I always assumed that they relied heavily on their hearing to determine their surroundings, but I didn't know they actually made clicking sounds and listened to the responding echoes. I find it fascinating.
 
Wow, you learn something new everyday! I had no idea blind people used echolocation. I mean, I always assumed that they relied heavily on their hearing to determine their surroundings, but I didn't know they actually made clicking sounds and listened to the responding echoes. I find it fascinating.

Well not all blind people use clicking sounds, but a lot do use the tapping noises of their canes, and also just listen to sound shadows and listen for the sound of an open vs. closed area, an echo, and so on.

It's not really any more amazing than deaf children coming up with home signs. It's just what people do when presented with blindness or deafness.
 
I guess that kid could become the next DareDevil lol.
 
Deaf people can drive?? Wow!

:giggle:

lol even a friend told me one person thought it was illegal for a deaf person to drive...I guess whoever said that don't go out much. :roll:
 
I don't see why this is article-worthy. Most blind people use echolocation to some degree, many without even realizing it. Not to mention the news was already made with Daniel Kish and Ben Underwater. I guess I just don't see what the big deal is. It's kind of like having an article called "Deaf boy speaks with hands." It's the natural human response to a given condition.

:whistle:

I agree...there was an article posted in here a few years ago about a deaf boy who was mainstreamed playing baseball and I pissed a lot of ADers off by saying "What is the big deal here?". To me, it wasnt a big deal as I grew up playing softball and other sports along with thousands of other deaf people before this article was written. LOL!
 
I remember one guy on an online game who asked me if I could drive after I told him I am deaf.

One audi actually asked my brother that on Thursday. My brother was floored and just looked at him like he had lost his mind! :lol:
 
One audi actually asked my brother that on Thursday. My brother was floored and just looked at him like he had lost his mind! :lol:

What bug me is that people assume i can't drive because of my deafness.... Um, no... I can't drive because of my VISION. I means, yeah, I know senior driving licences (at least in Alberta) have a clause on them that if they go deaf, they can't drive...

But that does not apply to young adults or the middle-aged population! Many of my deaf/Deaf friends can drive. Geez!
 
......... One person asked me if I needed help driving... I was like wtf.
I asked him - can you drive with a blindfold? he was like super wtf. I told him well, you obviously can't drive with just hearing the environment. He was like, oh damn, so you are driving. Yup.
 
What bug me is that people assume i can't drive because of my deafness.... Um, no... I can't drive because of my VISION. I means, yeah, I know senior driving licences (at least in Alberta) have a clause on them that if they go deaf, they can't drive...

But that does not apply to young adults or the middle-aged population! Many of my deaf/Deaf friends can drive. Geez!

Gosh, I have had experiences with people asking me if I could read in Brialle if I needed it when reading and writing. I usually say, "Uh ok..sure, I would love one but the problem is that I dont understand it as I can read printed English just fine but thank you."

I know some blind hearing people who have been asked if they know sign language.

I just find it so ridicously funny sometimes. Annnoying yea but just have to laugh at it sometimes.
 
Gosh, I have had experiences with people asking me if I could read in Brialle if I needed it when reading and writing. I usually say, "Uh ok..sure, I would love one but the problem is that I dont understand it as I can read printed English just fine but thank you."

I know some blind hearing people who have been asked if they know sign language.

I just find it so ridicously funny sometimes. Annnoying yea but just have to laugh at it sometimes.

When I was blind-hearing, I got asked if I know sign language all the time. Marlee Matlin also included an anecdote in one of her speeches once about how a flight attendant offered her a braille menu. :rofl2:
 
What bug me is that people assume i can't drive because of my deafness.... Um, no... I can't drive because of my VISION. I means, yeah, I know senior driving licences (at least in Alberta) have a clause on them that if they go deaf, they can't drive...

But that does not apply to young adults or the middle-aged population! Many of my deaf/Deaf friends can drive. Geez!

Tell me about it. Apparently it's okay to drive if you're hearing and max the volume of your music, but if you're Deaf then it's not okay. :roll:
 
I agree...there was an article posted in here a few years ago about a deaf boy who was mainstreamed playing baseball and I pissed a lot of ADers off by saying "What is the big deal here?". To me, it wasnt a big deal as I grew up playing softball and other sports along with thousands of other deaf people before this article was written. LOL!

It was probably about Ben Underwater. He was also featured in the show "Extraordinary People" as The Boy Who Sees Without Eyes. You can find the videos on YouTube but they don't have CC.
 
When I was a health aid I took care for 2 sisters , one was blind and the other one was HOH. The blind sister told her HOH hearing that every time she walked by the china cabinet she can hear a dish rattle and she is worried it will break. So the HOH sister get up to move the dish . and she tell her blind sister "she can't find the dish that is need to be moved"
The blind sister said " On never mind I will do it'! She get up walk over to the china cabinet and open the door and move the dish ! I just sat there thinking wow how did the blind sister find that dish so fast and her HOH sister who could see not find it!
I guess this it how the blind sister found the dish! The blind sister also said to her sister it she was cold she should put her sweater on! And the HOH sister did not say anything about being cold! It was so interesting to see the two sisters living together ,a blind sister and a HOH sister! They were looking out for one another! It was reallly sweet!
 
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