Black pastors bash NAACP for endorsing gay marriage

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Reba said:
Every time society accepts one more kind of immorality as "normal" it goes further into overall immorality and corruption.
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Homosexuality isn't immorality or moral corruption, period.
 
Steinhauer said:
Naisho, have you researched any unbiased psychological studies done on this subject? You really cannot cite APA as they are not unbiased. The APA was sabotaged by homosexual activists in the 70's.
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You just want research that based on anti-homosexual and homophobia. :roll:
 
I'm LGBT. When I worked for a homophobic employer, my family threatened to out me to my employer and get me fired as a way to "scare me straight." When my mother died in 2009, my family told me not to come to her funeral. They hired police to keep me out. All in the name of Jesus.

I care less about marriage and more about being safe to live my life, have a job, not be murdered or raped for being gay, stuff like that. I don't care if people think I am sinning or whatever. I just want to be left alone and not need to defend myself from violence.
 
joycem137 said:
I'm LGBT. When I worked for a homophobic employer, my family threatened to out me to my employer and get me fired as a way to "scare me straight." When my mother died in 2009, my family told me not to come to her funeral. They hired police to keep me out. All in the name of Jesus.

I care less about marriage and more about being safe to live my life, have a job, not be murdered or raped for being gay, stuff like that. I don't care if people think I am sinning or whatever. I just want to be left alone and not need to defend myself from violence.
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Wow, you have rough life for sure. :(

I used to had terrible life during teenager and young adult (until 21) until my grandma and some of intermediate families apologized to me about bad treatment due to my sex orientation so they are happy to invite me to funeral, marriage ceremony, church and reunion.

I have seen a lot of gay people have been disowned by their parent who disagree about homosexuality.
 
Foxrac said:
There are alternatives to adopt or get a baby instead go to adoption providers that have long wait list.

I can get baby from lesbian couple at no charge. ;)
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Foxrac,

That last sentence doesn't even sound legal or moral!
 
joycem137 said:
I'm LGBT. When I worked for a homophobic employer, my family threatened to out me to my employer and get me fired as a way to "scare me straight." When my mother died in 2009, my family told me not to come to her funeral. They hired police to keep me out. All in the name of Jesus.

I care less about marriage and more about being safe to live my life, have a job, not be murdered or raped for being gay, stuff like that. I don't care if people think I am sinning or whatever. I just want to be left alone and not need to defend myself from violence.
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You have an absolute right to the second half of your statement and I agree with it. I am also very sorry that your family treated you this way. It was not right and is not showing love or caring.
 
airportcop said:
Foxrac,

That last sentence doesn't even sound legal or moral!
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That's your opinion.

For me, I consider as moral.

It is legal for me to get baby from lesbian woman after delivery the sperm.

I have some lesbian friends who gave babies to gay couples. ;)
 
Jiro said:
um... we're talking about gay parenting, not gay procreation.

so what are we going to do about these abandoned children that heterosexual couple wastefully created?
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We are discussing parenting PERIOD

In otherwords, your supposed links to which group is better. Asking a bunch of humans is one way but too bad you don't want to ask the right source...Mother Nature.
 
airportcop said:
No,

I don't think any of the conservatives on here will argue or insist that heterosexual parents are the same as homosexual parents. They simply put can't be the same. :shock:
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It is very pointless now.

It is just like beating on dead horses.

Not everyone agree about heterosexual families are same as homosexual families.

For me, I see both of them are not different at all.
 
Foxrac said:
That's your opinion.

For me, I consider as moral.

It is legal for me to get baby from lesbian woman after delivery the sperm.

I have some lesbian friends who gave babies to gay couples. ;)
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Foxrac,

I am not judging you but do you really think that is okay for a woman (not a young girl with unplanned or unwanted pregnancy) to give away her baby? Think about all of the responsibilities and legalities. Do you really think that a woman who carries a baby for nine months which is part of her innermost being and who is totally okay with giving up something like that without any compensation or connections is realistic or sane? Wow! That is crazy & unbelievable. If this has truly happened there has to be more to the story than "Wham, Bam,Thank you Mam" and here's your baby just like I promised! Can she really just walk away from that?! There are moral implications too.
 
airportcop said:
No,

I don't think any of the conservatives on here will argue or insist that heterosexual parents are the same as homosexual parents. They simply put can't be the same. :shock:
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Dammit. You're being so ridiculous.

So, blah...
 
airportcop said:
Foxrac,

I am not judging you but do you really think that is okay for a woman (not a young girl with unplanned or unwanted pregnancy) to give away her baby? Think about all of the responsibilities and legalities. Do you really think that a woman who carries a baby for nine months which is part of her innermost being and who is totally okay with giving up something like that without any compensation or connections is realistic or sane? Wow! That is crazy & unbelievable. If this has truly happened there has to be more to the story than "Wham, Bam,Thank you Mam" and here's your baby just like I promised! Can she really just walk away from that?! There are moral implications too.
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I don't understand any questions that you asked in bold.

It is legal for women to give their babies to other parents, it isn't much difference from adoption. The woman who give her babies are not only apply for gay parents, also it can be given to heterosexual parents or single parents, especially single men who enjoy to raise the child on their own. I think it is called surrogacy or something.

I think it is depending on states whichever regulate on adoption so I don't know about your state but in here, it is legal with some risk, especially some untrustworthy mothers could fight the custody of child in the court.
 
Foxrac said:
I don't understand any questions that you asked in bold.

It is legal for women to give their babies to other parents, it isn't much difference from adoption. The woman who give her babies are not only apply for gay parents, also it can be given to heterosexual parents or single parents, especially single men who enjoy to raise the child on their own. I think it is called surrogacy or something.

I think it is depending on states whichever regulate on adoption so I don't know about your state but in here, it is legal with some risk, especially some untrustworthy mothers could fight the custody of child in the court.
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I was asking if you really thought that this process was okay? I really believe that adoption would be a much better idea for all.
 
Sighs. I don't know why you think homosexual parents can't be wonderful parents or you think they're too dangerous for or bad examples to their children.

How come do you think they aren't able to train and to discipline their kids like heterosexual parents would? Unless are they just nothing but immoral animals to you??

Maybe I can't understand your thinking.....
 
airportcop said:
I was asking if you really thought that this process was okay? I really believe that adoption would be a much better idea for all.
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If it is legal, I guess so.

Do you think that mothers who deliver their babies to other families do exist?

For me, I will prefer to do it in California because it is safe for custody of child that where I can sign for that, also look for trustworthy mothers too.
 
rolling7 said:
Yes, wake up and see the 2012-style moral corruption.
There was plenty in the past but mankind does not learn.
Mankind repeats the errors and mistakes of the past continually.
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Do you want me to allies with airportcop to defeat Jiro in all debate?
 
airportcop said:
Foxrac,

I am not judging you but do you really think that is okay for a woman (not a young girl with unplanned or unwanted pregnancy) to give away her baby? Think about all of the responsibilities and legalities. Do you really think that a woman who carries a baby for nine months which is part of her innermost being and who is totally okay with giving up something like that without any compensation or connections is realistic or sane? Wow! That is crazy & unbelievable. If this has truly happened there has to be more to the story than "Wham, Bam,Thank you Mam" and here's your baby just like I promised! Can she really just walk away from that?! There are moral implications too.
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Absolutely agree with you
 
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