Birds and Bees Talk

My boys haven't actually outright asked me questions....but we've had many conversations regarding sex and the importance of condoms. At ages of 18, 15 and 13....I'm sure they have "discussed" it among themselves, and gather a lot of info. at school and their friends.

My oldest boy did have unprotected sex with a girl, and admitted it to his doctor (a male). But not to me. The doctor told me...and that's when we sat down and had a "long conversation".

But, IMO, being honest as to their questions is best.
I believe boys feel more comfortable talking to males about sex, and girls would rather talk to their mother.
 
How did that term ever get coined, "The birds and the bees?" and how does the story go??

I remember my mom (my parents were divorced and I dont remember EVER talking about sex with my dad) sitting me down and talking to me about it.

Around the teens, she started buying me underwear that screamed of HINT, HINT USE A CONDOM because of their helpful reminders on the front: black and yellow stripes saying Hard hat area, instructions on how to properly "use a microphone" and most all of them had a little pocket on the inside where you could put a condom.
 
My opinion is that Birds and Bees Talk is out of date. I might be wrong, but some Europeans aren't afraid to talk their children about the real stuff.
 
webexplorer said:
My opinion is that Birds and Bees Talk is out of date. I might be wrong, but some Europeans aren't afraid to talk their children about the real stuff.
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Yeah, nudity and sex are not an issue, it is an open subject. They are not prude about it like Americans... America is just too protective over what the children hear and see. Can't let them hear swearing or sexual words on TV or radio! It might scar them for life... but I guarantee all kids use the words... :D And when the parents are fully deaf... we learn to talk without moving our lips... like a ventriloquist... I did this when I was little... mastered the lip-reader-proof swearing :giggle:

But anyway, back on track... the American public is just too prude! If a boob is shown on TV, a HUGE deal is made over it and the FCC fines the company MILLIONS! STOP BEING PRUDE AND JUST GO TO A FAMILY NUDIST RESORT!!! :laugh2:
 
no, they are more afraid that they will start experimenting if they knew too much and don't understand the love (or hormones) that goes with it yet (children will to be children).

Afterall, kids are taking their clothes off to show each private parts.

And I'm glad that FCC respect people's religious beliefs so they can enjoy tv as people who don't care.
 
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rockin'robin said:
My boys haven't actually outright asked me questions....but we've had many conversations regarding sex and the importance of condoms. At ages of 18, 15 and 13....I'm sure they have "discussed" it among themselves, and gather a lot of info. at school and their friends.

My oldest boy did have unprotected sex with a girl, and admitted it to his doctor (a male). But not to me. The doctor told me...and that's when we sat down and had a "long conversation".

But, IMO, being honest as to their questions is best.
I believe boys feel more comfortable talking to males about sex, and girls would rather talk to their mother.
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That is why my wife is going to be talking to our soon to be little girl about it and if we have a son I will talk to him.
 
Lighthouse77 said:
no, they are more afraid that they will start experimenting if they knew too much and don't understand the love (or hormones) that goes with it yet (children will to be children).

Afterall, kids are taking their clothes off to show each private parts.

And I'm glad that FCC respect people's religious beliefs so they can enjoy tv as people who don't care.
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Kids experiment WITHOUT knowing anything... and THAT is the problem. Teaching them sex and SAFE sex at a young age is an important thing. There is the media that pressures kids to have sex younger and younger to be "cool". Kids as young as 10 and 11 are having sex (I can't remember what report I saw that in).

As for the FCC respecting religion... they aren't. They are respecting the prude American society. There is a mass difference between American and even Canadian TV. It has NOTHING to do with religion. And if someone doesn't want to see something on TV, don't watch it... Religions are different, so why try to cover up everything that is considered "unholy" by one religion if it will offend another religion. And what about the Atheists? Do they need to suffer from the stupidity of the religious groups in the entertainment media as well? No...
 
FCC deals with public tv that people commonly agree on. They don't really deal with paid subscription that involve sex. Unless you don't care if kids watch hardcore porns on Nick Jr.

When Juno was playing on movies, it did have effect on some teens who think teen pregnancy is cool and you have this too: Computers and TV have caused teen sex, violence and harmed mental health of whole generation | Mail Online people just don't want to gamble the risk. And U.S. isn't doing this, U.K. does the same thing (there was a woman who protested in U.K. against sex media back in the 60's or 70's)

Even though some ten years old go through puberty, we are talking about children as young as 8 years old. They don't have the maturity to understand sex. and 10 years old should not be having sex with anyone under 8 years old. That's abuse because an eight years old would be confused by the whole thing. Because like I said, he doesn't have maturity to understand it.



Any under 10 years old having sex are being abused or it is sign of abuse. Like my 4 years old cousin who was sexually abused by his cousin (from his mom's side of family, not my side of family. He was my uncle's son) . He once said his private hurted and asked if we could make it better. that's what his cousin told him, and he was imitating his cousin. we told his mother that something is wrong and a child should not be talking that way or even have the knowledge like that, and she reported it and his cousin went to jail.. unfortunately, my cousin ended up in the institution because of that. I know plenty of people who were sexually abused as a child (some relatives and some friends) and knowing too much can make it harder to detect abuse because we could say, " oh he probably saw it on tv"

i did know little bit about sex from our dog. My mom's would yell, keep the dog inside because she is on season (that's what she called it) and doesn't want our dog have puppies. but that's just about all I know.
 
I don't have kids but I remember my mom reading very open books to me about sex and body parts and discuss it in detail, using facts but w/vocab., length of discussion and so on appropriate for young child. But it wasn't any "Birds and Bees" thing.
 
I think that it's important for both parents to discuss sex with kids. The kids need to be able to discuss sex with the opposite sex. If the kids can't discuss sex with the opposite sex parent, how can they discuss it with their partners?

I also address LGBT issues with my kids. Even it they're straight, they need to learn acceptance and tolerance. If they're not straight, they need to know that it's ok.
 
I teach our son that bullying and making fun of people is hurtful and always wrong no matter what. It doesn't matter what the reason for bullying and making fun of them. And that if he can't say anything nice about something, it is better not to say it at all.
 
Lighthouse77 said:
do you have kids under 10 years old?
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I have a 3 year old God-son who already knows the words for the body parts... He was taught this by both his parents and myself. He also knows the general things about sex. It shouldn't be hidden from children. Parents shouldnt be afraid of kids knowing things about sex.
 
No, I mean he knows the parts of both male and female and that they are used to make babies. I was the same way, when I was little my mom taught me the parts of both boys and girls and told me that's what makes babies.
 
Bramus said:
How did that term ever get coined, "The birds and the bees?" and how does the story go??
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I took some liberty to dig out some info (because I was also wondering where the origin of "Birds and Bees" came from) and here's what I came across -

Where exactly "the birds and the bees" originated nobody knows, but word sleuths William and Mary Morris hint that it may have been inspired by words like these from the poet Samuel Coleridge: "All nature seems at work ... The bees are stirring--birds are on the wing ... and I the while, the sole unbusy thing, not honey make, nor pair, nor build, nor sing." Making honey, pairing ... yes, we can definitely tell what Sam had on his mind.
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The Straight Dope: What's the origin of the phrase, "the birds and the bees"?
 
Mechanical said:
No, I mean he knows the parts of both male and female and that they are used to make babies. I was the same way, when I was little my mom taught me the parts of both boys and girls and told me that's what makes babies.
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I did teach our son the difference between sex when he was potty training. told him that his private make him a boy (and he should proud of being a boy). told him that girls have a different private part that make her a girl. But I didn't go into details about baby making nor it was really necessary. It isn't going to hurt children for not knowing about baby making at certain age (such as toddlers).

beside some professional recommend we shouldn't push the subject or give too much informations to little children, just the ones they can handle: http://health.howstuffworks.com/how-to-answer-difficult-questions-from-children2.htm (although, I don't around in nude around our son. But when he was little, I did let him walk in while I was talking a shower or using the bathroom. I think just about every parents does.)

I know exactly what they mean how children used bits and pieces of informations given to them and make misconception about pregnancy out of it. My son used do that all the time, that is, I tell him something, it turned out something totally different than what I told him. Just like when he was in preschool, he didn't know the difference between Saturday and monday, or yesterday and tomorrow. Most people don't remember their toddler years, so you probably don't either. You only go by what your mother told you about your toddler years. So who knows what your thoughts were when you were a told about it.
 
Helping young moms

I was older than eight when I heard about the birds and the bees, but things have changed over the years.

Here's something that was in the local paper recently. My reaction when I saw '11 year-old mother' was not something I'd repeat to my own mom. Kids grow up too fast these days.

House calls for healthy babies
 
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