Best way to develop oral skills?

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shel90 said:
ASL is the foundation but people are trying to build the house without it. Instead they use CS, SEE, and Sim Com as support poles for the roof. However, when a fierce storm blows thru, the support poles give away causing the roof to crash!

Poor or good attempt at creativeness? LOL!
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It's a different foundation than most people's houses. It must be built in a different zone. After it is qualified, it can be moved to the normal zone, but since most people just love that zone, they don't want to move. They would rather commute.
 
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BURN!

I am in AVT right now but hot damn, that CRACKED me up.
 
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what's AVT? Audio-Visual Technique?
 
loml said:
Jiro - I certainly did not "suddenly change the name". :roll: Let me explain then please. Cued Speech is the name of the system ( hand shapes for consonant sounds and hand placements for vowel sounds), thus the term Cued Speech. The language that is being cued is English, thus the term Cued English. Abbreviated as: CS/CE Hope that clears it up for you.
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I always thought Cued English referred to one class of cued languages while Cued Speech refers to the hand symbols that are used. With that being the case, I don't view them as being synonymous in terms of definition.
 
My retarded attempt at catching up 7 hours

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deafskeptic said:
Who claimed to have all the answers? I'm just curious.
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I do. Do you want the blue or red pill?

shel90 said:
I have to say that I am deaf or people will assume I can understand everything they say if I say I am hoh. For some strange reason, people equate hoh as being able to understand everything if they speak louder! :laugh2: I dont need people screaming at me.
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Hmm. You ever try talking to them in detail?
Like during an interview with google, I said "I can only understand you if you do not move your face around, speak at a moderate pace, loud and clearly without background interference" (I think this cost me the job)

loml said:
Actually, I use the term Cued English Jiro.:roll:
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How' ya doing loml?

Daredevel7 said:
(I am LOVING this subtext talk.)
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Can I join?

That's my attempt for a followup. If anyone takes it seriously I am sorry. It is meant to be humorous. I did it for the 1500.
 
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faire_jour said:
I am just making a statement as a civilian who sees and works with deaf kids. He asked if I thought that speech = intellegence and I was simply answering no. I never claimed to have all the answers, unlike others.
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No offense faire_jour, but if you are referring to Jillio, when did she claim to have all of the answers? (Sorry for talking about you Jillio. I'm just curious as to faire_jour's response.)
 
shel90 said:
So by using Jiro's logic, I am not deaf if I can hear with my HAs.
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I consider someone deaf if they cannot hear well enough to understand speech although when I had severe-profound loss and was unable to discriminate speech with hearing aids, I had a difficult time identfying myself as deaf and would call myself deafblind (since this encompasses anyone with combined vision and hearing loss) or hard of hearing.

Now that I'm 100% deaf without my CIs, I feel totally comfortable calling myself deaf.

Having said that, I think part of the reason why I've never identified myself as deaf is because I grew up orally and was always taught that any amount of residual hearing renders you as hard of hearing.
 
Jiro said:
For example - when you hear the word blind, the thought is automatically processed in your head that the person is COMPLETELY blind. That's why it's not fair, IMO, for someone to make a blanket comment such as "there are blind children who have acquire visual acuity....." because it creates confusion thus the debate goes nowhere. It's best to be as specific as possible simply for the sake of argument.
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This is exactly why a differentiation is made between those who are legally blind and totally blind. Legally blind refers to those who have some degree of useable vision while totally blind refers to those who do not.
 
shel90 said:
Unfortunately, I cant eat popcorn so I will pour myself a HUGE glass of wine and enjoy the fun! :lol:
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I can't have wine and popcorn makes me sleepy (don't ask me why, but it does), so I elect to enjoy some chips and soda instead. :giggle:
 
jillio said:
As it has been said numerous times, it depends on many factors other than the dB of loss.
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Exactly. Even children with mild hearing loss can be greatly affected when it comes to language acquisition.
 
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Babyblue said:
How long have you done all of these things? Just Started when You child got her implants?

Or what?
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I've been working with the organization for since we found out my daughter was Deaf, more than 4 years ago. My daughter's school started their Oracy program this year.
 
so it's like Clarke School for the Deaf.... :roll:
 
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