Best Deaf School?

ZiDaReNGeNiUS said:
I completely agree with you because I was in your same shoes too!
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All deaf schools suck? Really? Are u basing on your experience with 1 school on all of them?

Silentwolfdog is right...I am sure some deaf schools suck just as some public schools suck but I do know that many deaf schools r adopting the public school's curriculm if they havent done it already. In the old days...like in the 60s..too many theories were being tried out on them and as a result, too many differing opinions of how to design the curriculm resulted. Now, with the adoption of the public schools' curriculm, it should get better.
 
shel90 said:
All deaf schools suck? Really? Are u basing on your experience with 1 school on all of them?

Silentwolfdog is right...I am sure some deaf schools suck just as some public schools suck but I do know that many deaf schools r adopting the public school's curriculm if they havent done it already. In the old days...like in the 60s..too many theories were being tried out on them and as a result, too many differing opinions of how to design the curriculm resulted. Now, with the adoption of the public schools' curriculm, it should get better.
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Actually when it happened to me, it happened halfway in 90's. They had a messed up system"s". You would be surprised how the idea of low expectation continued into 90's along with messed up systems. By now, the deaf school is a lot less designed for deaf students but with students that have another issues, go figures. I have heard that thing is supposed to get a little better because of new deaf leader. Maybe what you said finally happen at my deaf school. *shrugs*
 
Silentwolfdog said:
Actually when it happened to me, it happened halfway in 90's. They had a messed up system"s". You would be surprised how the idea of low expectation continued into 90's along with messed up systems. By now, the deaf school is a lot less designed for deaf students but with students that have another issues, go figures. I have heard that thing is supposed to get a little better because of new deaf leader. Maybe what you said finally happen at my deaf school. *shrugs*
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What would a perfect deaf school to u be like?
 
shel90 said:
What would a perfect deaf school to u be like?
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Perfect? I have learned that there's no such thing as perfect. ;)

But a good deaf school would be one that actually cover the materials they are supposed to cover just like public school. An example would be if they are teaching alergbra then teach it, not 1st grade level math. Don't give out word search as homework for world history in high school!! I mean...it's like they are sending messages out that they are not being serious about teaching us. One where they actually don't listen to whine of the students about homework being too much or school work being too much when public school in fact is two time worse.

Honestly, all I asked was just teach me the material that they are supposed to teach, not baby me with materials that I already know back in middle school or elem school.

I think I was proud when I transferred to public school and realize that I have to spend few hours on homework. I finally know what it's like to practice what I learned and to truly learn. At deaf school, I at most would have spend less than one hour on homework. This is why I always done my homework on bus on the way to deaf school (about 45 minutes from where I live to deaf school), lol. It's more like chore rather than practicing if you know what I mean?

Classmates I had weren't stupid, but they were lazy and school listened to them. And don't put students with learned disability with students that aren't. The materials weren't right for either one if putted together.

I got a feel that you Shel90 probably have done what I have wanted from my deaf school. But I guess I am in wrong place at wrong time, huh? I don't know you or what method you used on students, but it's just a vibe I got. Either that or I am just weird lol.
 
resourceress said:
I agree that some of most successful schools with full language access and high expectations for deaf students are those that use the bilingual/bicultural approach.

Here are some BiBi resources that may help us identify the best BiBi schools.

CAEBER (Center for ASL/English Bilingual Education and Research)
New Mexico School for the Deaf: CAEBER

CAEBER Preservice Training: Star Online Project
Seven universities currently use the curriculum from online courses:
- Gallaudet University
- Lamar University
- McDaniel College
- Western Oregon University
- University of Tulsa
- California State University Northridge
- University of Hawaii

Two universities, Gallaudet University and Lamar University, utilize the full online components while the other universities use parts of the online components and online curriculum as meets their needs.

CAEBER Inservice Training: 2-Year Professional Development Inservice
Schools for the Deaf involved with ASL/ESL Bilingual Staff Development Model in Deaf Education
(as listed at Star Schools)
- New Mexico School for the Deaf
- Illinois School for the Deaf
- Texas School for the Deaf
- Alabama School for the Deaf
- Kendall Demonstration Elementary School
- Kentucky School for the Deaf
- California School for the Deaf Riverside
- Wisconsin School for the Deaf
- Minnesota Academy for the Deaf
- Jean Massieu Academy
- American School for the Deaf
- Metro Deaf School
- Kansas School for the Deaf


Deaf Ed Teacher Prep programs that list their philosophy as bilingual/bicultural on deafed.net
(note: some programs -- which may be bibi programs -- did not specify their philosophy on this list)
- University of California, San Diego
- University of Hawai'i at Manoa
- McDaniel College
- Boston University
- Western Oregon University
- Utah State University, Logan
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just wanted to inform you that WOU (Western Oregon University) doesn't provide TPD (Teacher Program for the Deaf) anymore because of $. It was shutting down about 2 months ago. But, thank you very much about the list of universities where I'd go to for TPD because it has many options! :) I'll keep them in my mind. ;)
 
Silentwolfdog said:
Perfect? I have learned that there's no such thing as perfect. ;)

But a good deaf school would be one that actually cover the materials they are supposed to cover just like public school. An example would be if they are teaching alergbra then teach it, not 1st grade level math. Don't give out word search as homework for world history in high school!! I mean...it's like they are sending messages out that they are not being serious about teaching us. One where they actually don't listen to whine of the students about homework being too much or school work being too much when public school in fact is two time worse.

Honestly, all I asked was just teach me the material that they are supposed to teach, not baby me with materials that I already know back in middle school or elem school.

I think I was proud when I transferred to public school and realize that I have to spend few hours on homework. I finally know what it's like to practice what I learned and to truly learn. At deaf school, I at most would have spend less than one hour on homework. This is why I always done my homework on bus on the way to deaf school (about 45 minutes from where I live to deaf school), lol. It's more like chore rather than practicing if you know what I mean?

Classmates I had weren't stupid, but they were lazy and school listened to them. And don't put students with learned disability with students that aren't. The materials weren't right for either one if putted together.

I got a feel that you Shel90 probably have done what I have wanted from my deaf school. But I guess I am in wrong place at wrong time, huh? I don't know you or what method you used on students, but it's just a vibe I got. Either that or I am just weird lol.
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My deaf school adopted the public school curriculm in 93, I believe, so maybe before 93, the education standards there were poor?

Right now, I see the things u just posted happening at where I work...we give out homework appropriate for the age level. Sometimes, I had to give out homework that were considered very easy for some of the students because their parents dont sit down and help them with their homework or dont know how to communicte with them. I hate doing that but I would rather give out something instead of nothing to build responsibility and self-confidence skills in the students (1st graders). I really wanted to give these students more challenging homework because I know they can rise to the challenge but they would ask their parents for help only to get none since their parents couldnt sign so they couldnt get the help they needed it so I changed the homework to slightly below their level knowing that they can do them on their own and then slowly increase the difficulty level of the homework throughout time. I had to be careful cuz I dont want the kids to get so frustrated with their homework and lose confidence in themselves and start rebelling against it. It is a delicate balance...too bad their parents arent willing to learn to sign cuz it can make a WHOLE lot of difference in whether to send home challenging homework or too easy homework. It can get frustrating at times.

U are right..kids need to be challenged.
 
just wanted to inform you that WOU (Western Oregon University) doesn't provide TPD (Teacher Program for the Deaf) anymore because of $. It was shutting down about 2 months ago. But, thank you very much about the list of universities where I'd go to for TPD because it has many options! I'll keep them in my mind. ;)
 
shel90 said:
My deaf school adopted the public school curriculm in 93, I believe, so maybe before 93, the education standards there were poor?

Right now, I see the things u just posted happening at where I work...we give out homework appropriate for the age level. Sometimes, I had to give out homework that were considered very easy for some of the students because their parents dont sit down and help them with their homework or dont know how to communicte with them. I hate doing that but I would rather give out something instead of nothing to build responsibility and self-confidence skills in the students (1st graders). I really wanted to give these students more challenging homework because I know they can rise to the challenge but they would ask their parents for help only to get none since their parents couldnt sign so they couldnt get the help they needed it so I changed the homework to slightly below their level knowing that they can do them on their own and then slowly increase the difficulty level of the homework throughout time. I had to be careful cuz I dont want the kids to get so frustrated with their homework and lose confidence in themselves and start rebelling against it. It is a delicate balance...too bad their parents arent willing to learn to sign cuz it can make a WHOLE lot of difference in whether to send home challenging homework or too easy homework. It can get frustrating at times.

U are right..kids need to be challenged.
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I see...I can understand that.

I think education standard is pretty poor at my deaf school. I think teachers are decent...but the method school want them to do is messed up I guess. Remember, I am talking about middle or high school level...Cross word for high school level and it's not sometimes, it's practically everyday. That's messed up, in my humble opinion.

But I think I am just unlucky, there weren't many students in same level as I was, I guess. It's not like they can put me in appropriate level classroom because I was probably one of 4 or 5 high school students out of 40 that are at a appropriate pace like hearing students. For some reason elem school, I feel like my peers were on same level or something, and somehow it changed when we entered middle school. I think maybe because students ended being mixed instead of being in the same level hurts some of us.

Aren't most of your students live in dorm? I thought more deaf students live in dorm rather than at home. But I guess it varied from state to state.

As I look back, I can't recall having someone to help me with my homework when I was in elem school, weird. Most of homework was just drill I guess so generally I had no problem other than boredom that come with homework...

Homework was so bored that it actually caused me some stress doing homework in elem school. Was that normal? I am just curious.

I sort of feel like I was being punished for being "smart" at my deaf school (however, when compared to public school, I am really just an average student) . So there are still some scars in my heart from being a student of deaf school. But I guess I am glad to know that at least there are some decent deaf schools out there.
 
Silentwolfdog said:
I see...I can understand that.

I think education standard is pretty poor at my deaf school. I think teachers are decent...but the method school want them to do is messed up I guess. Remember, I am talking about middle or high school level...Cross word for high school level and it's not sometimes, it's practically everyday. That's messed up, in my humble opinion.

But I think I am just unlucky, there weren't many students in same level as I was, I guess. It's not like they can put me in appropriate level classroom because I was probably one of 4 or 5 high school students out of 40 that are at a appropriate pace like hearing students. For some reason elem school, I feel like my peers were on same level or something, and somehow it changed when we entered middle school. I think maybe because students ended being mixed instead of being in the same level hurts some of us.

Aren't most of your students live in dorm? I thought more deaf students live in dorm rather than at home. But I guess it varied from state to state.

As I look back, I can't recall having someone to help me with my homework when I was in elem school, weird. Most of homework was just drill I guess so generally I had no problem other than boredom that come with homework...

Homework was so bored that it actually caused me some stress doing homework in elem school. Was that normal? I am just curious.

I sort of feel like I was being punished for being "smart" at my deaf school (however, when compared to public school, I am really just an average student) . So there are still some scars in my heart from being a student of deaf school. But I guess I am glad to know that at least there are some decent deaf schools out there.
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It is not unusual at all for descrepancies in levels to start showing up at about the jr. high level. That is also the age that many deaf students begin to get referred to deaf schools from the mainstream because those variances in levels are starting to show up.
 
How about a private school? I am an alumna of St. Rita in Cincinati. I think it would be neat to have a website that compare all schools (public, private, mainstream). Perfect for parents to check them out.
 
Buffalo said:
How about a private school? I am an alumna of St. Rita in Cincinati. I think it would be neat to have a website that compare all schools (public, private, mainstream). Perfect for parents to check them out.
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I think that is the school where Jillio's son went to when he was younger. If I am wrong, please correct me. :ty::ty::ty::ty::ty:
 
Buffalo said:
How about a private school? I am an alumna of St. Rita in Cincinati. I think it would be neat to have a website that compare all schools (public, private, mainstream). Perfect for parents to check them out.
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My son attended St. Rita. Wonderful school! But Sister John Michael still scares me!
 
I heard you guys talking about the best deaf school. I wanted to tell you about my experiences with Uni High School in Irvine. My deaf oral teenagers do not go there but they have many friends there. I think Uni is a great place for deaf students because they are very accepting of each other. First, they have a very high API score, I think it is 891. Second, they are in one of the safest cities in the country. Third, and more important is that they have an amazing program for their deaf students. I have observed this school about 3 times and know many students and parents there. My daughter went to their prom this year. The reason I like it so much is because there are students from deaf families, students raised orally only, students raised with both, and students raised only in sign language. They are just very accepting of each other and the different ways they are raised. The other thing is that they have over 120 deaf students there so they more funds to be able to provide more services for their students. They have a great mainstreamed program with interpeters and captioning services. They also have Special Day classes if that is what they students needs. The other thing I love is that the d/hh students have their own prinicpal. We Live about 1 1/2 hour away from that campus. I would love for my students to attend there but it is far and house prices around that school are really high. Just this weekend we went to the beach with about 10 of the students from that school.
 
jackiesolorzano said:
I heard you guys talking about the best deaf school. I wanted to tell you about my experiences with Uni High School in Irvine. My deaf oral teenagers do not go there but they have many friends there. I think Uni is a great place for deaf students because they are very accepting of each other. First, they have a very high API score, I think it is 891. Second, they are in one of the safest cities in the country. Third, and more important is that they have an amazing program for their deaf students. I have observed this school about 3 times and know many students and parents there. My daughter went to their prom this year. The reason I like it so much is because there are students from deaf families, students raised orally only, students raised with both, and students raised only in sign language. They are just very accepting of each other and the different ways they are raised. The other thing is that they have over 120 deaf students there so they more funds to be able to provide more services for their students. They have a great mainstreamed program with interpeters and captioning services. They also have Special Day classes if that is what they students needs. The other thing I love is that the d/hh students have their own prinicpal. We Live about 1 1/2 hour away from that campus. I would love for my students to attend there but it is far and house prices around that school are really high. Just this weekend we went to the beach with about 10 of the students from that school.
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That's a self contained program in the public schools system, not a School for the Deaf.
 
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