Bakers refuse to makes wedding cakes for same sex couples

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CrazyPaul said:
What do you think he would answer after the couple asked why he refused? THAT!
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Most likely, the baker would answer just as they said they answered....
 
TXgolfer said:
So then, the gay couple would be bigots ae well then since they didn't respect the beliefs of the store owners, right?
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Correct, the gay couple are vindictive bigots. The bakery did not search out this gay couple so that it could deny them a service.
 
Foxrac said:
Many gay people have religion and they support same sex marriage.

Your number isn't make sense.
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The gay couples that I know that are religious do not see same sex marriage as a marriage (because it is not the same thing).
 
Steinhauer said:
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The gay couples that I know that are religious do not see same sex marriage as a marriage (because it is not the same thing).
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I have located an LGBT screenprinter in Portland. I wonder how they would respond to printing t-shirts for Westboro Baptist???
 
TXgolfer said:
Actually, they refused to provide a service. It is an important distinction. That is the difference between this situation and most of the comparisons. For one, a wedding cake is custom, meaning it has artistic value. It would be like hiring a lyricist and demanding they write a song about a particular subject.

And as pointed out when this thread started, people in the wedding cake business normally do more than just bake the cake...they attend the event and serve the cake and often help with a lot of the organization. This, again is where most of the other arguments fall short. A wedding cake involves much more than just ordering off of a menu.
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there..... they refused to make one.

TXgolfer said:
Technically they are not closing shop, they are closing up THE shop. They will still operate as a home business. They are most likely doing this so that in the future the line between retail business and service business will be drawn more clearly.
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therefore.... they closed it up.
 
TXgolfer said:
I have located an LGBT screenprinter in Portland. I wonder how they would respond to printing t-shirts for Westboro Baptist???
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ask them?
 
:dizzy: what are you all fussing over this issue? anyone who refuses to serve the same sex marriage/couple are IDIOT.
 
Jiro said:
there..... they refused to make one.


therefore.... they closed it up.
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1) Yes, they refused a type of service. Not a customer. That is the distinction.

2) Yes, they closed the storefront but are still open for business. Just clarifying because usually when the phrase "closed up shop" is used, it refers to the business closing.
 
TXgolfer said:
1) Yes, they refused a type of service. Not a customer. That is the distinction.
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no. that is quibbling.

TXgolfer said:
2) Yes, they closed the storefront but are still open for business. Just clarifying because usually when the phrase "closed up shop" is used, it refers to the business closing.
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and that's exactly what they did.
 
Jiro said:
ask them?
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Plan to. In fact I think we have to take the "war" to the gay shops. If they are going to target businesses, the favor should be returned.
 
Actually, TXgolfer is correct on this one. Making a distinction is not quibbling.
 
TXgolfer said:
Plan to. In fact I think we have to take the "war" to the gay shops. If they are going to target businesses, the favor should be returned.
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go ahead.
 
TXgolfer said:
Plan to. In fact I think we have to take the "war" to the gay shops. If they are going to target businesses, the favor should be returned.
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Um, they will be. Churches across the nation are already discussing it.

it should be good for business, look what happened to Chic-Fil-A
 
Steinhauer said:
Actually, TXgolfer is correct on this one. Making a distinction is not quibbling.
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actually both of are you are incorrect..... just as bad as your demanding-something-that's-not-even-in-the-menu example.
 
Jiro said:
actually both of are you are incorrect..... just as bad as your demanding-something-that's-not-even-in-the-menu example.
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the bakery in question did not have a same sex wedding cake on the menu :dunno: probably for the same reason ham, pork, and bacon are not on the menu in an orthodox Jewish deli.
 
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