Audism - The Definition and the Audist View

lol - and why doesn't your reaction not surprise me? ;)
 
posts from hell said:
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States more than a thousand words ever could....:ty: PFH.
 
Oceanbreeze said:
I just read it, in part. I had to stop reading. This Mother is SO misinformed. Having her kid implanted because she wanted the child to talk, so the family didn't have to learn ASL? WTH? :pissed:
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I also had to stop reading, then came back and made myself finish the article. What gets me is not only is the mother selfish, but also although the CI gives the child access to sounds, the child has to learn how to process the sound into language and it doesn't come naturally. How can a mother not be willing to put the effort into sign language while she expects her child to put twice as much effort or more into learning to process sounds into speech? That is just as bad as learning to speak without CIs or HAs but with the added adjustment to noise. Plus, the specialists with degrees up to their ears, are only in that 'profession' for audist purposes. Sickening.
 
Audism? To me it's just another excuse for people to be butt hurt. If people would stop looking for ways to be offended we would all be better off.

I had an old lady that was a regular customer for years. She was always amazed that I could run a business and be deaf and often made "audist" comments. So what, she was nice and always made cookies when I was there.
 
The problem I have with that is when I've listened to degrading comments for 40 years, it gets old. Fast.

I've had the same -- people that are amazed I can even speak, even drive, even do anything. It seems like they think I should be a simpering idiot for being deaf. And, after 40 years of listening to that ... ugh.
 
Having privilege allows a person to ignore racism/sexism/audism. When a person of color says that a statement/action is racist, I tend to believe that person, understanding that I may not see it clearly. That applies here. If a Deaf person says that a statement is audist, hearing people should give the Deaf person credibility and look more closely from a different perspective. As a former hearing person, I listen and try to understand. Deaf people are sharing their experiences and those experiences are very different than mine.
 
AlleyCat said:
The problem I have with that is when I've listened to degrading comments for 40 years, it gets old. Fast.

I've had the same -- people that are amazed I can even speak, even drive, even do anything. It seems like they think I should be a simpering idiot for being deaf. And, after 40 years of listening to that ... ugh.
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It gets old sometimes.....I know.
 
YES, Sally - that is very close to what I wrote recently somewhere....
 
dogmom said:
I think this is a good idea, BecLak:wave:

my thoughts in addition:

-when hearing babies have access to ASL or "baby sign" but deaf babies don't

-language only means speech


Jillio, :ty:your thoughts seem familiar to me - I mentioned about that too!
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the bolded part actually angers me alot. I saw a Baby Sign table in a local mall to me. And I asked the ladies/instructors there is they accept HOH or deaf babies into their classes and they looked like I slapped them. I was told that none of the instructors were special ed teachers, so no.
 
Am I right in thinking that if a hearie asks you why don't you get a CI because it will help you hear is audist?
 
AlleyCat said:
The problem I have with that is when I've listened to degrading comments for 40 years, it gets old. Fast.

I've had the same -- people that are amazed I can even speak, even drive, even do anything. It seems like they think I should be a simpering idiot for being deaf. And, after 40 years of listening to that ... ugh.
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Don't blame you for feeling that way, Alleycat.

TXGolfer, have you considered that we deafies don't want audism in our face everyday and they don't want their children to be subjected to it as well?
 
Miss-Delectable said:
Am I right in thinking that if a hearie asks you why don't you get a CI because it will help you hear is audist?
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I don't think so......I mean do we really want to discourage people from asking questions?

For those who don't want a CI it seems like the question provides a nice opportunity to enlighten people to their belief
 
TXgolfer said:
I don't think so......I mean do we really want to discourage people from asking questions?

For those who don't want a CI it seems like the question provides a nice opportunity to enlighten people to their belief
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It depends on the spirit in which the question is asked. Some questions are questions that genuinely require an individualised informed answer, others stem from pure ignorance whereas, if the person is willing for a lecture, it gives opportunity for education. However, there are questions that derive from an deliberate attitude of audism that are intended to offend and therefore should be firmly rebuffed.
 
TXgolfer said:
I don't think so......I mean do we really want to discourage people from asking questions?

For those who don't want a CI it seems like the question provides a nice opportunity to enlighten people to their belief
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I think it's really depends on how a hearing phrases the question.

I had a friend, deaf, and her hubby, hearie, they moved to a country town and locals there kept telling them that she should get a CI because it will help her hear and speak. She doesn't speak, by the way. So they had to be educated and learn to accept that CI is not for everyone.

If I were subjected to that numerous time, I would be very off put about it.
 
Miss-Delectable said:
I think it's really depends on how a hearing phrases the question.

I had a friend, deaf, and her hubby, hearie, they moved to a country town and locals there kept telling them that she should get a CI because it will help her hear and speak. She doesn't speak, by the way. So they had to be educated and learn to accept that CI is not for everyone.

If I were subjected to that numerous time, I would be very off put about it.
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:wave: Hi Miss D!

So true, A hearing person in general, who is ignorant of d/Deaf people, will automatically assume a situation from their own hearing perspective, so they are naturally (with no ill-intent) audists. It is when a person is informed and educated and yet still chooses to have audist views is when it is considered offensive. To have that question put to you on numerous occasions even after patient, long-suffering explanation - it is no wonder we are put off by it. It's like "Hey! Haven't you been paying any attention to what I have told you?!" :roll:
 
deafbajagal said:
Are you talking about that story of the beauty queen who was texting along the train tracks?

But of course, one incident doesn't mean it will happen to all of us.
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That's true, we're not all beauty queen material :laugh2:

You could argue that deaf kids with CIs are more likely to be in danger ... you know, they've got a magnet or two that might attract that great big metal engine ...
 
GrendelQ said:
That's true, we're not all beauty queen material :laugh2:

You could argue that deaf kids with CIs are more likely to be in danger ... you know, they've got a magnet or two that might attract that great big metal engine ...
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I just pictured that in my mind......:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
 
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