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So at JTC they cranked up Miss Kat's hearing aid. She is now hearing at 25-30 db, and then sloping down to 40-45 at high frequencies. Sounds great, right?

Nope. They did speech testing. First we did it with her CI and HA together. She scored 70%. With just her hearing aid (same test) she got 20%. That is a HUGE difference.
 
Proves that her CI is working well for her and is better than a HA
 
It is such a huge difference! It shows that hearing is more than just tones in a soundbooth! Even if in therory someone hears well, maybe it isn't the case.

They recommended going bilateral.
 
Are you considering Miss Kat to go bilateral?
 
faire_jour said:
So at JTC they cranked up Miss Kat's hearing aid. She is now hearing at 25-30 db, and then sloping down to 40-45 at high frequencies. Sounds great, right?

Nope. They did speech testing. First we did it with her CI and HA together. She scored 70%. With just her hearing aid (same test) she got 20%. That is a HUGE difference.
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Wow it's been a long time since you posted! Welcome back! Do you have her most recent audiogram, is her hearing loss still progressive? I will create a long post about my HAs being reprogrammed. Needless to say, im hearing the low frequencies *better* than my mom, dad, bro and many hearing people! My ability to understand speech just from the boost in the low frequencies has gone way up! Im still training my brain to make sense of all the new sounds I hear and im starting to hear the difference between "S" and "F" my audiologist said it was simply a matter of training your brain and he's right.

Glad to hear(pun intended) that CI works great for her. What kind of speech test did she have? I do know the HINT and CNC are two very popular speech tests taken by an audiologist and I plan to get tested for those several months from now after I train my brain some more to hear/understand consonents and words. I am at 5-10db sloping down to 30-40 in the mid frequencies. I still have no high frequency hearing, not even with transposition! The cutoff is 1500Hz and my HL is 120db at that frequency so transposing sounds from say 4000Hz down to 1500Hz-2000Hz range is *still* too high to hear! Oh well, the lows are nicely making up for it! Ill post more about it with more testing and reprogramming.
 
Did you decide where you are going to place miss kat when school begins?
 
Deafdude has a good point about the training doing a lot.

I guess she had pretty intensive session at the Tracy clinic?
 
DeafLissa90 said:
Did you decide where you are going to place miss kat when school begins?
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I have some ideas. The John Tracy people were great with trying to help me figure out what will work for her. We are hoping a split placement at this point. 3 days at bi-bi 1 st grade and then the other 2 in the oral Kindy. This way she won't have to worry about the oral content and curriculum, just the language. That way she keeps working on both languages and gets access to the best professionals in both modes.

BUT I am positive they will tell me no. I am armed to fight now!
 
That sounds great, it will be helpful for Miss Kat in the long term because she gets the chance to develop and use BOTH languages. Let us know how it goes

Why in Kindy for oral? Would that not be like setting miss kat back and confuse her because she will be going to 1st Grade in the bi-bi
 
Bottesini said:
Deafdude has a good point about the training doing a lot.

I guess she had pretty intensive session at the Tracy clinic?
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She loved it. It was interesting to see her blossom in that area. She made obvious, visable progress in just 3 weeks.

It was the same test that she had a few weeks before with her CI and hearing aid, plus she has had the same therapy with her hearing aid that she has with the CI.
 
DeafLissa90 said:
That sounds great, it will be helpful for Miss Kat in the long term because she gets the chance to develop and use BOTH languages. Let us know how it goes

Why in Kindy for oral? Would that not be like setting miss kat back and confuse her because she will be going to 1st Grade in the bi-bi
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It will just be remedial stuff she already knows, so she won't have to struggle for concepts and new ideas. She can just focus on transferring the knowledge from one language to another.
 
Ahh i understand now! Sounds great!

As deafdude already asked, has Miss Kat's audiogram changed? do you know what it currently is? I read your blog and you had some lessons on it etc
 
DeafLissa90 said:
Ahh i understand now! Sounds great!

As deafdude already asked, has Miss Kat's audiogram changed? do you know what it currently is? I read your blog and you had some lessons on it etc
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It is the same as the last time. It hasn't changed since pre-CI....for now.

It is 60db at 250 hz sloping down to 80-95db. I don't have it on hand at the moment, that is a good guess.
 
Curious, does Miss Kat have a progressive loss? I'm asking only because her CI+HA was 70% and CI alone was 65%, as you said. Could that change later if the HA no longer helps as much as it does now? Either way it sounds like she is doing fabulous! :)
 
What does Ms. Kat want? Since I am bilateral it is easy to say go, but I met a few who just love having one CI. I think it is less about scores and more about what she is comfortable with.

I like your idea on placement. I can see a fight happening. I think more from a curriculum stand point. The fact the standards she will be missing from moving back and forth can keep her from mastering the grade level skills. In the long run, the skills she is miss or not mastering can cause a delay in academic success. Good luck.
 
faire Jour,

I think the split placement sounds good. It would be a good way to see what would work the best for her. I hope you can get it for Miss Kat.

I agree that it is harder to decide on a second CI. I was told I could go bilateral but I am not going to rush into it. I am doing well with one CI (over 80 % in quiet and 44% to 70 % in noise-this depends on the Signal to Noise Ratio). The CI is really doing the hearing. My HA fell off and I did not notice for several hours. I was lucky to find the HA later. My big concern about going bilateral is being able to enjoy music with two implants. Have you asked Miss Kat what she thinks about going bilateral?
 
vallee said:
What does Ms. Kat want? Since I am bilateral it is easy to say go, but I met a few who just love having one CI. I think it is less about scores and more about what she is comfortable with.

I like your idea on placement. I can see a fight happening. I think more from a curriculum stand point. The fact the standards she will be missing from moving back and forth can keep her from mastering the grade level skills. In the long run, the skills she is miss or not mastering can cause a delay in academic success. Good luck.
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We want her in the bi-bi school for academics. She is extremely bright and she will be able to master the info with only missing 1 (and a half, friday is short day, out by 1) day. The point of the other half is merely language access and support services.

She doesn't really have an opinion about bilaterals right now. I have asked and sometimes she says yes, other times no. She is having a lot of trouble in noise right now and I would hope that is where she would get more benefit as well.
 
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